THE_HUNTER 2 Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 OK,who has tried these?Praises,curses?Will they work in the Saiga 12 mags,including the new AGP 10 rounders?I love the 2 3/4" rounds and would figure the 3" would be even sweeter! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crow 2 Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Haven't tried the 3, but the 2 3/4 is my new favorite round. I haven't gotten ANY 3s to feed in my 10 rounder, nor 2 3/4 slugs. But the S&B 2 3/4 00 feeds like stink. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE_HUNTER 2 Posted January 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 So far,my 10 rounder works with 3" PMC turkey loads and 2 3/4 slugs.I hear maybe the 3" S+B buckshot is a bit longer... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vangcomper 0 Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 S&B buck, to put it simply, sucks. It is soft lead, unbuffered, no shotcup, and takes up the length of a 3" shell in a 2 3/4" offering. On top of that, it has the LOWEST velocity out of any shotgun round I have ever tested. velocities of around 800-900fps are common. It also patterns worse than any other buckshot I have tested (due to the reasons mentioned earlier). If you want a good economical 12 pellet buckshot, get the Nobel Sport buck being offered at places like AIM and Sportsman's Guide. It is unbuffered, but VERY hard lead shot (harder than many plated buck) and is actually slightly larger than the typical 00 pellet. It also has a good velocity of 1290fps, and patterns decently. I endorse Nobel Sport all the way, and would use it for bear defense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE_HUNTER 2 Posted January 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Cool.I should look into the Nobel Sport rounds.I have always had really good patterns with the Sellier ans Bellot in 2 3/4" loadings in all of my 12 gauges.12 pellets to boot also.It sounded like 15 pellets out of the 3" would be even better.True the pellets aren't super hard but pellets hitting and deforming within the target would be a kin to the old "chilled shot" loads.Old timers liked these loads as more knock down power was added by the flattening pellets acting kinda like soft points.For bear though,I would go with the hardest pellets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Veen 0 Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Cool.I should look into the Nobel Sport rounds.I have always had really good patterns with the Sellier ans Bellot in 2 3/4" loadings in all of my 12 gauges.12 pellets to boot also.It sounded like 15 pellets out of the 3" would be even better.True the pellets aren't super hard but pellets hitting and deforming within the target would be a kin to the old "chilled shot" loads.Old timers liked these loads as more knock down power was added by the flattening pellets acting kinda like soft points.For bear though,I would go with the hardest pellets. I'm using the S&B for home defense, just because I'm never going to get a full across house shot where it'd actually spread to a pattern bigger than a human. Plus, I figure if it actually gets a bigger spread, then there's a slightly better chance that I'll hit if I don't aim absolutely 100% precise. For anything like hunting, property defense, zombie hunting, bug out, etc, it's 3" Remington or 3" Federal all the way. IDEALLY I'd like to get brass cases and load them with a nice heavy, powerful, 3", but un-shotcupped, 15 pellet 00 load. I want a nice powerful and plentiful load, but at least for home defense I don't want a really tight grouping. I want at least some spread. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azkamidaka 26 Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 I tried out the slugs once, they're shizer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beerslurpy 1 Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 12 pellets at 900fps is plenty for house duty. It certainly kicks my shoulder hard enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doug01 3 Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 On setting 1, S&B will not cycle my gun at all, but all is well on setting two. No problems with setting one with federal or winchester slugs or buck in 2 3/4. Does this seem to be case with others guns and S&B? Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hoop762 0 Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 i cannot speak for S&B, but nothing low brass of reduced recoil will cycle reliably on #1 in my gun. I use the reduced recoil speer lawman for HD purposes....for that and birdshot, i gotta keep it on #2 to keep things running smooth. I dont switch to #1 unless im shooting 3" buck or slugs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE_HUNTER 2 Posted January 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 My EEA Saiga I shoot everything,even Federal WallyWorld #8 loads,on the #1 setting.The second Russain American one I shoot mainly on #1,but have to switch to #2 for the Federal WallyWorld shells to make sure everything is 100%. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
inparidel 4 Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 S&B buck, to put it simply, sucks. It is soft lead, unbuffered, no shotcup, and takes up the length of a 3" shell in a 2 3/4" offering I use it exclusively in IDPA competition (USPAS/IPSC does dot use anything over #6). It IS 3". And as such responds a bit different than 2/3/4". As a mattert of course, I bevel the S-12 giude tang and the bottom of the cylinder opening. Performance WITH A BLACKJACK OR HALVED bLACKJACK buffer is 100%. I generaally use Buffertech bufers in any gun I own that can have a buffer, HOWEVER, Blackjack buffers, whole and halved run 3" S&B rounds (and all 3" rounds) MUCH better tha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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