quastinos about saiga convertion

[desantura 0]

hello my name is bogdan. sorry for inturopt you. but could you help me. i boght russian saiga .223 and i want to convert to ak stile. i whent to http://www.cross-conn.com/Saiga_Conversion/ for information. and i have some quastions.

1. do i have to buy a new trigger for ak or that one that i have will bi ok?

2. where can i buy a 30 rd mag for this rifle?

3. i order russian plastic side folding stok for aks 74m is that gonna fit?

3. where can i buy new pins

please help me if you can than you verry much

[Cobra 76 two 2,677]

1. Yes you need a regular AK trigger group. Tapco G-2, FSE, Century (GAG!), or Red Star Arms.

2. I have some clear (smoke)30 rd and 20 rd mags for sale converted to work in the Saiga if you add a feed ramp or bullet guide. There are also some other options but I think the Bulgarians are the best. Mine work great. Check with dinzag about the bullet guides / ramps.

3. That Russian stock is a pretty difficult install...

4. What pins do you need? The rivets for swapping out the rear trunnion?

[Bad Bob 0]

hello my name is bogdan. sorry for inturopt you. but could you help me. i boght russian saiga .223 and i want to convert to ak stile. i whent to http://www.cross-conn.com/Saiga_Conversion/ for information. and i have some quastions.

1. do i have to buy a new trigger for ak or that one that i have will bi ok?

2. where can i buy a 30 rd mag for this rifle?

3. i order russian plastic side folding stok for aks 74m is that gonna fit?

3. where can i buy new pins

please help me if you can than you verry much

Any additional input here? Even if it's an "I think so, too," thats plenty good enough...

 

;>)

[kresk 10,063]

1. Use a different trigger group as Cobra suggested.

2. There are many sources for magazines--easiest source depends if you are in the US or not. I suspect you are not in the US, but mags should be available regardless.

3. A side folder will work but it requires some serious metalworking and probably a gunsmith with proper tools and equipment.

4. Don't think you will need new pins, but just to plug the holes where the old pins went, by either plastic plugs, metal rivets, or by welding over the holes.

 

Sounds like your project can be done if you have the proper resources and help. Good luck Bogdan!

Edited January 19, 2007 by tritium

[desantura 0]

so i bought this kind of stock. it is side folding stok for ak74m. does eny one know how to instal that to russian .223 saiga?

and does the flash hider from ak74 gonna fit on this rifle? thank you

[desantura 0]

this what i bought for my project from russia . is that gonna work?

[kresk 10,063]

this what i bought for my project from russia . is that gonna work?

Those parts will work. You will need to get the rear trunion assembly (and hinge pins) for the back of the receiver and the butt retainer to keep the stock unfolded when extended, and the front retainer parts to keep the stock locked when folded. You might try KVar http://www.k-var.com/shop/product.php?prod...=283&page=2 for those parts. You can put an AK-74 brake on the muzzle but you will either need to take off the FSB and thread the barrel, or much easier look into the brake that Dinzag on the forum makes http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showto...amp;#entry97331 that will slip on. You also need a handguard retainer for the lower handguard (Dinzag will also soon have these available so you won't have to take off the FSB or the gas block) and a screw and nut for the pistol grip. Lastly, you will need a regular AK gas tube to replace the Saiga one, so the upper handguard will fit onto it.

Edited January 19, 2007 by tritium

[Bad Bob 0]

this what i bought for my project from russia . is that gonna work?

Those parts will work. You will need to get the rear trunion assembly (and hinge pins) for the back of the receiver and the butt retainer to keep the stock unfolded when extended, and the front retainer parts to keep the stock locked when folded. You might try KVar http://www.k-var.com/shop/product.php?prod...=283&page=2 for those parts. You can put an AK-74 brake on the muzzle but you will either need to take off the FSB and thread the barrel, or much easier look into the brake that Dinzag on the forum makes http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showto...amp;#entry97331 that will slip on. You also need a handguard retainer for the lower handguard (Dinzag will also soon have these available so you won't have to take off the FSB or the gas block) and a screw and nut for the pistol grip. Lastly, you will need a regular AK gas tube to replace the Saiga one, so the upper handguard will fit onto it.

Thanks for your input!!!

 

Any one else care to contribute the results of their Saiga blood, sweat, & tears?

[desantura 0]

this what i bought for my project from russia . is that gonna work?

Those parts will work. You will need to get the rear trunion assembly (and hinge pins) for the back of the receiver and the butt retainer to keep the stock unfolded when extended, and the front retainer parts to keep the stock locked when folded. You might try KVar http://www.k-var.com/shop/product.php?prod...=283&page=2 for those parts. You can put an AK-74 brake on the muzzle but you will either need to take off the FSB and thread the barrel, or much easier look into the brake that Dinzag on the forum makes http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showto...amp;#entry97331 that will slip on. You also need a handguard retainer for the lower handguard (Dinzag will also soon have these available so you won't have to take off the FSB or the gas block) and a screw and nut for the pistol grip. Lastly, you will need a regular AK gas tube to replace the Saiga one, so the upper handguard will fit onto it.

ok so can you explain me how to instol that stock?

[kresk 10,063]

The installation of the folding stock is fairly complicated and should be done by someone with the proper equipment and experience. To give you a basic idea, first the original rear trunion with the tang must be removed by drilling out the rivets. Note, when later replacing the rivets, to use a flat head rivet on the left to allow clearance for a scope platform to slide onto the mount. Then the angle of the rear of the receiver has to be adjusted slightly to accomodate the alignment of the stock. You may want to spot weld the trunion in place so it doesn't move. Then, you have to drill/machine holes for the locking latch for the stock, including enlargement of the hole on the right. Then you need to drill holes for the locking mechanism for when the stock is folded, on the left side of the receiver. This is somewhat difficult due to its position in the receiver. The pictures show the right, left, and rear of the receiver when the new trunion has been installed.

Edited January 19, 2007 by tritium

[dinzag 31]

Hello again bogdan. Good to hear from you. You can call my cell again if you want.

 

Yes that stock is a bit tricky to do.

I have one myself, did you get the hinge and trunnion assembly?

I have a blueprint of where you need to cut the receiver, I will dig it up.

Unfortunately I don't have instructions, but the drawing is nice.

 

Later,

B

[desantura 0]

ok can you give me blueprint and cellphone nomber?

[dinzag 31]

Hey bodgan, I will email you the blueprint Monday, I don't have it here.

You have my cell still, I talked to you a couple weeks ago.

(Brian) you called me about the 410 stuff.

 

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