David C. 1 Posted August 26, 2004 Report Share Posted August 26, 2004 I like Barnaul ammo for my 7.62x39. What ammo works best in the .223 version?Has anyone tried the IMI surplus stuff? Thanks, David BTW, answering this is very helpful. I used the results in the similar poll on the 7.62x39 in selecting my favorite ammo for 7.62x39 (and avoiding the problem choices and wasted $). Thank you for your opinions. D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David C. 1 Posted August 31, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 41 views. No replies. 1 vote. Was it something I said? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Sorry guy,still saving pennies to get my .223. G O B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mrapathy2000 0 Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 (edited) feed it whats availible cheap. has not jammed. going to try some 5.56nato lake city see how it likes it. Edited September 1, 2004 by mrapathy2000 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oldskoolfattieg 0 Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 My friend had a 223 and we use wolf,umc,and the 556 lake city stuff never had a problem and the 556 nato ammo sure does have a flash on it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David C. 1 Posted September 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 Thanks for your input, fellas. I'm hearing alot of good things about Lake City surplus ammo. I'm leaning towards that choice right now. D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
overweightelf 0 Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 anything i want Quote Link to post Share on other sites
inparidel 4 Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 All the above, and more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bonesaw 1 Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 i reload for the .223, saves me a ton of money Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bayoupiper 738 Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Trolls! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6500rpm 670 Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 I've had good luck with S&B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squib 0 Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 (edited) Anything and everything! THe AR is kinda prissy and finiky so it gets the new production cheap Remington green and white box Wally world ammo. The reloads from that brass go to the Saiga. Funny how the AR said that using all this different kind of ammo including reloads will void the warrenty, but the Saiga never said that! Edited May 28, 2008 by Squib Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MD_Willington 11 Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Barnaul --> Yes Wolf --> Yes Silver Bear --> Yes Brown Bear --> Yes Russian Surplus --> Nope IMI Surplus --> Nope Other --> Yes, a bunch of LC brass HSM reloads Almost all of the above! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
O.S.O.K. 0 Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 I've used Wolf in mine with good results and also PMP, handloads and S&B. As everybody is indicating, the Saiga seems to digest them all with no troubles. Of course, the brass cased domestic stuff or good milsurp will be the most accurate and shoot cleaner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DLT 1,646 Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Rem UMC brass mainly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aka108 0 Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 Wolf and Barnual have worked good for me. Used to shoot a bunch of Cheetah that shot good and clean but it was made in Zimbabwe and I think importation has stopped. They are probably using all they can make to kill each other in that country. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CHW111 0 Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 I like Barnaul ammo for my 7.62x39. What ammo works best in the .223 version?Has anyone tried the IMI surplus stuff? Thanks, David BTW, answering this is very helpful. I used the results in the similar poll on the 7.62x39 in selecting my favorite ammo for 7.62x39 (and avoiding the problem choices and wasted $). Thank you for your opinions. D S&B work good in my gun . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neurosis 0 Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Depends on what "what works best" means. Feeding and plinking for plinking's sake? I've used everything from PRVI, Black Hills, Federal, RemUMC, and UltraMax. I'd like to try the surplus stuff, but the ROs at the range I go to have got a ban on steel jacketed/core ammo. So they're real leary with surplus ammo. As far as group size wise, I've gotten better results with 75gr match ammo from Wolf Gold and UltraMax. So most of the 55gr surplus is out for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gandog56 0 Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Prefer to roll my own. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
quinci956 1 Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 I converted my .223 in the days before the Dinzag bullet guide so I had to make my own. For mine, any softpoint 223 is out. The feed angle is to much and causes the lead tip to flatten out. This will ussually cause a jam. When they do fire they are insanely inaccurate because the bullet tip is smashed to one side. I have good luck with any FMJ rounds or hollow point rounds. I get best accuracy with the Hornady TAP rounds with the polymer tip. They feed great and the tip flexes back after feeding for the ride out of the barrel. We use the 55 grain for SWAT. We have shot sheet rock interior walls of apartments that were to be torn down and found that the projectile breaks up after impact and comes out the other side as almost powder. With this round we are less likely to hit an unintended target in the next room. These are good for home protection but not for shooting through a barricade, auto glass, or sheet metal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Anybody have problems shooting 5.56 out of their saiga with it being a hotter load and all? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bayoupiper 738 Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Anybody have problems shooting 5.56 out of their saiga with it being a hotter load and all? I would think the Saigas were built to take the extra pressure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keia.atkinson@ou.edu 1 Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Anybody have problems shooting 5.56 out of their saiga with it being a hotter load and all? Considering that they use the same receiver as the 7.62 version I would assume it would be fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
quinci956 1 Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 (edited) Anybody have problems shooting 5.56 out of their saiga with it being a hotter load and all? I know they are marked .223 and normally I would not shoot 5.56 out of a rifle unless it was marked to handle it. The Saiga however is different. The rifle can take 5.56 and then some. I can't say for sure and I'm sure some one here will correct me but I think that all of the Saigas (7.62x39, 308, 12 gauge) use the same frame, fire control group, bolt carriers ect. Edit: I type too slow. "Virtouso" beat me to it. Edited August 12, 2008 by madmilo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bad Bob 0 Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Indonesian NATO-spec surplus 5.56mm. I bought 'a can or two,' when it was a bit over $100 for 800+ rounds, including the can. ;>) It has a reputation for running a little 'hot,' but I've never had a single problem with it (unlike the ChiCom brass-cased stuff that gave me case failures)... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WardenWolf 6 Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Well, I fed my Saiga S&B 55-grain FMJ .223 on its first outing. Very nice ammo, with not one jam. Accurate, too. It likes this ammo. This was the cheapest ammo I could find other than Wolf. I don't plan on shooting Wolf again after experience with the stuff in my Romak-3. It shot well, but I think they cut it with black powder or have some major problems with powder quality control. It made a royal mess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
decodeddiesel 4 Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 (edited) Anybody have problems shooting 5.56 out of their saiga with it being a hotter load and all? Considering that they use the same receiver as the 7.62 version I would assume it would be fine. Anybody have problems shooting 5.56 out of their saiga with it being a hotter load and all? I know they are marked .223 and normally I would not shoot 5.56 out of a rifle unless it was marked to handle it. The Saiga however is different. The rifle can take 5.56 and then some. I can't say for sure and I'm sure some one here will correct me but I think that all of the Saigas (7.62x39, 308, 12 gauge) use the same frame, fire control group, bolt carriers ect. Edit: I type too slow. "Virtouso" beat me to it. Not very conclusive as the 5.56 is WAY higher pressure than the 7.62x39, .308, and 12G. Remember it is the chamber pressure which is the issue here. That being said in addition to the steel poly and lacquer coated cases, I have fired Lake City and PRVI M855 out of my Saiga without issue. I agree in that I believe this rifle can handle hot ammo very well. Still though the ejection pattern on the brass cased rounds were erratic and "rainbow'ed" compaired to the lacquer coated steel cased com-bloc ammo. I think these rifles prefer the cheap steel stuff... Edited August 23, 2008 by decodeddiesel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stock 223 0 Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 My first post. I've been shooting Brown Bear 223 62gr hp. Can't make it jam. 1 1/2" groups at 100 yds on the bench on sand bags using imported factory ammo. What a great little rifle, and I don't mean simply because it costs less. I mean what a great little rifle! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bad Bob 0 Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 My first post. I've been shooting Brown Bear 223 62gr hp. Can't make it jam. 1 1/2" groups at 100 yds on the bench on sand bags using imported factory ammo. What a great little rifle, and I don't mean simply because it costs less. I mean what a great little rifle! Welcome to the forum, compadre! And I agree - it's a "a great little rifle!" ;>) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bad Bob 0 Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 I've been shooting Brown Bear 223 62gr hp. Can't make it jam. 1 1/2" groups at 100 yds on the bench on sand bags using imported factory ammo. I forgot to mention (I must be tired ;>) that when you find any reasonably priced ammo that shoots well in your rifle, buy a bunch. And then I would recommend that you go back and buy 2-3 times more than you think you need. I did that with the Indonesian 55 gr 5.56 NATO surplus that was available about 10 years ago. Great ammo! I went back and bought another can (a bit over $100 for 800+ rounds, including the can). In other words, I doubled what I thought I really needed. Crap - I should have bought 5 (or 10) cans, not just two... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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