mccumber1916 1 Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 the virginia tach rampage will undoubtably fuel the socialists AWB fire Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KU_MechE 0 Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 the virginia tach rampage will undoubtably fuel the socialists AWB fire I was thinking the same until i saw that they recovered 2 9mm pistols. i'm sure a hi-cap mag ban will follow and possibly a push for AWB. good excuse to stock up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gatorgunner 0 Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 I was also waiting to see what the new "evil black rifle" would be. I didn't think two 9mm pistols could take down that many people, but when he was the only one with a gun it was probably like shooting fish in a barrel. Sad that this will only serve to take guns away from those who should most have them... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JK-47 33 Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Once again the result will knee jerk legislation that ingores the facts and panders to the outrage and fear of the uninformed voting public. Violence sells, and the media is sure to leave impartiality by the wayside when there are ratings to be had, and the same for politicians hungry for votes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mccumber1916 1 Posted April 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 the virginia tach rampage will undoubtably fuel the socialists AWB fire I was thinking the same until i saw that they recovered 2 9mm pistols. i'm sure a hi-cap mag ban will follow and possibly a push for AWB. good excuse to stock up unfortunately for me i have a glock-17 with 3 17rounders... i guess i'm evil too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrTuffPaws 2 Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 I am not really sure that the use of handguns in this will help us any on this. If they are going to go after handguns, then they get evil black rifles for free. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mccumber1916 1 Posted April 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 I am not really sure that the use of handguns in this will help us any on this. If they are going to go after handguns, then they get evil black rifles for free. that's how i see it... they'll attack anything capable of hi capacity magazines Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Pate 478 Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 I agree. Everytime these shootings occur it just gives ammo to the anti-assault-weapon crowd, regardless of which weapons actually pose the largest threat. Just look at Cali's ban on .50BMG. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kyndig 0 Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Rather sad that no one there was armed other than him. I think any place that does not allow you to carry on their property (if its a public place like a resteraunt or a college for example) they should be held accountable for not allowing people their right to arm and defend themselves if it was demonstrated they had intended defend themselves- for instance if they had a carry permit would prove they had the intention of taking on the responseability of defending themselves Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kyndig 0 Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 I agree. Everytime these shootings occur it just gives ammo to the anti-assault-weapon crowd, regardless of which weapons actually pose the largest threat. Just look at Cali's ban on .50BMG. not to mention when they had bayonets banned, how many people were killed in the U.S. in 93? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mccumber1916 1 Posted April 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Rather sad that no one there was armed other than him. I think any place that does not allow you to carry on their property (if its a public place like a resteraunt or a college for example) they should be held accountable for not allowing people their right to arm and defend themselves if it was demonstrated they had intended defend themselves- for instance if they had a carry permit would prove they had the intention of taking on the responseability of defending themselves i remember a case in the 90's in texas... guy drove through a cafe window-front then shop multiple people. a female survivor on the news said she left her pistol in the trunk of her car due to the fact that the cafe forbid firearms... despite her carry permit AND second amendment right Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 276 Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Rather sad that no one there was armed other than him. I think any place that does not allow you to carry on their property (if its a public place like a resteraunt or a college for example) they should be held accountable for not allowing people their right to arm and defend themselves if it was demonstrated they had intended defend themselves- for instance if they had a carry permit would prove they had the intention of taking on the responseability of defending themselves i remember a case in the 90's in texas... guy drove through a cafe window-front then shop multiple people. a female survivor on the news said she left her pistol in the trunk of her car due to the fact that the cafe forbid firearms... despite her carry permit AND second amendment right she was a represenative down there, huge supporter of CCW now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ironhead7544 35 Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Regarding the restraunt in Texas: that was before they got CCW. The lady in question had a gun in the car but didnt bring it in. She watched the guy shoot her parents in the head. The incident is one of the reasons Texas got their CCW. This latest incident just shows that restricting CCW at all really just creates a safe zone for criminal acts. There should be no restrictions except courts and police areas like jails. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mccumber1916 1 Posted April 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Regarding the restraunt in Texas: that was before they got CCW. The lady in question had a gun in the car but didnt bring it in. She watched the guy shoot her parents in the head. The incident is one of the reasons Texas got their CCW. This latest incident just shows that restricting CCW at all really just creates a safe zone for criminal acts. There should be no restrictions except courts and police areas like jails. precisely my point... the point of the second amendent is to have a civil defense against incedents like such or political tyranny Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trukreltrog 8 Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 the virginia tach rampage will undoubtably fuel the socialists AWB fire I was thinking the same until i saw that they recovered 2 9mm pistols. i'm sure a hi-cap mag ban will follow and possibly a push for AWB. good excuse to stock up MSNNBC said it was a 9mm and a .22 caliber handgun that was used. In any case it is definitely fuel for the AWB bonfire. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Why not put firearms owners in charge of dumb asses who commit gun crimes. I know I value my rights and would not "go light" on punishing stupid people who threaten my rights with their stupid actions! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 276 Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Why not put firearms owners in charge of dumb asses who commit gun crimes.I know I value my rights and would not "go light" on punishing stupid people who threaten my rights with their stupid actions! Sounds good in theory, but in practice i think it would be flawed by people thinking that all the gun owners would be "trying to pull the wool over peoples eyes" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mccumber1916 1 Posted April 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Why not put firearms owners in charge of dumb asses who commit gun crimes.I know I value my rights and would not "go light" on punishing stupid people who threaten my rights with their stupid actions! that is a great idea... jury of peers and all Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pointer 21 Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Another things gonna be that he was here on a visa since August of last year from Singapor.Where did he get the guns,hes not a US citizen.Hope it wasnt a gun show Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaneman153a 39 Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Why not put firearms owners in charge of dumb asses who commit gun crimes.I know I value my rights and would not "go light" on punishing stupid people who threaten my rights with their stupid actions! that is a great idea... jury of peers and all A 19 year old with handguns (have to be 21 right?) who kills 32 people execution style because he's pissed off at his teenie-bopper girlfriend is NOT my peer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 had to edit that one... we are all proud of every last one of you, and we will all stand behind you, always. we are all one. e pluribus unem. of many, one. I would stand with you all any day night or time. you all make us very proud. ON THAT NOTE, I WILL show up on your scene, and I DO HAVE jurisdiction, as well, so you all better be fucking nice. this "only a few of us have guns" bullshit is at an end. enough is enough. if they want my s12 when drums make me pay some tax that i can forfeit by grasndpa, and they still get to steal it, expect the news to tell my story. they think they can seize them here, when they cant. why dont ya'll just TURN TUNGSTEN BULLETS??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XDavid 0 Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Another things gonna be that he was here on a visa since August of last year from Singapor.Where did he get the guns,hes not a US citizen.Hope it wasnt a gun show You don't need to be US citizen to buy handgun... only certain firearms does. Still, the gunman shouldn't have those gun or maybe if another responsible gunowner in there had a gun.... the turn out won't be as horific as it is. Give your prayers to the victims of this tragic incident. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
romeo1oscar 1 Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Regarding the restraunt in Texas: that was before they got CCW. The lady in question had a gun in the car but didnt bring it in. She watched the guy shoot her parents in the head. The incident is one of the reasons Texas got their CCW. This latest incident just shows that restricting CCW at all really just creates a safe zone for criminal acts. There should be no restrictions except courts and police areas like jails. + 2 or 3 on that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Forster 0 Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Heard that the serial #'s on both handguns had been filed off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
darkside 0 Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Well if anything I wouldn't mind if they made some stricter restrictions to selling firearms to non-US citizens. It makes perfect sense to me. But unfortunately they will probably push through another AWB pertaining to semi auto rifles and other weapons like maybe .50BMG which have nothing to do with this incident. Just goes to show how these lawmakers take advantage of these situations to further their political agendas Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Combat Medic 5 Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Shooting a Dem Conspiracy? to pass a AWB? im just throwing it out there..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Pate 478 Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Well if anything I wouldn't mind if they made some stricter restrictions to selling firearms to non-US citizens. It makes perfect sense to me. But unfortunately they will probably push through another AWB pertaining to semi auto rifles and other weapons like maybe .50BMG which have nothing to do with this incident. Just goes to show how these lawmakers take advantage of these situations to further their political agendas In my state of Tennessee presidential hopeful John Edwards happened to be passing through and IMMEDIATELY rewrote his speech to accomodate these events. I also saw alot of Virginia university students taking the opportunity to play reporter and further their careers by helping the news agencies. And then theres the endless parade of analysts and so-called experts each exploiting tragedy for their own purposes and proferring to have solutions for these atrocities. Its sad how quickly these horrible tragedies get hijacked for political purposes. But I guess thats nothing new, huh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
darkside 0 Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 In my state of Tennessee presidential hopeful John Edwards happened to be passing through and IMMEDIATELY rewrote his speech to accomodate these events. Yes I can see it now: Edwards was seated in his luxurious private jet flying overhead as news of the tragedy broke. "Ah", Edwards said as he smiled himself. "Now I can include this into my speech and make myself seem like a real compassionate man. And I can play on everyone's emotions to demonize guns even more. I'm sure to get more votes now!". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jaak 0 Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Shooting a Dem Conspiracy? to pass a AWB? im just throwing it out there..... i hope not, because im not giving up anything. i hope a civil war breaks out if they pass this ban. people need to stand up to our corrupt govt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HardShell 0 Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 (edited) I was off yesterday, at home with my family, but I was glued to this and couldn't tear myself away. Tragic. I couldn't help but wonder if this wiould be America's "Dunblane" and, God help me, I was tangibly relieved to discover he didn't use an EBR (even while grieving for the victims and their loved ones). Rather sad that no one there was armed other than him. I think any place that does not allow you to carry on their property (if its a public place like a resteraunt or a college for example) they should be held accountable for not allowing people their right to arm and defend themselves if it was demonstrated they had intended defend themselves- for instance if they had a carry permit would prove they had the intention of taking on the responseability of defending themselves i remember a case in the 90's in texas... guy drove through a cafe window-front then shop multiple people. a female survivor on the news said she left her pistol in the trunk of her car due to the fact that the cafe forbid firearms... despite her carry permit AND second amendment right she was a represenative down there, huge supporter of CCW now Y'all are talking about Suzanna Hupp, a fine lady and a great American IMHO... http://www.suzannahupp.com/ Edited April 17, 2007 by HardShell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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