sewerman 0 Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 i received this mail from IZHMASH today Thank you for your interest in our products. The saiga M series could be available later in the year. We have submitted the paperwork to bring them into the country and are awaiting approval. When they become available I will post them on our web site. It is usually about 4 months between approval and the arrival of any rifles. Clyde Woods Sales & Marketing Russian American Armory Company http://www.izhmash.ru/pix/saiga_m_g.jpg = shows photo cheers, hoke Quote Link to post Share on other sites
janome 0 Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 I'm in love Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaKen 338 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) Ancient thread, but does anyone have one of these? Getting some photos emailed to me later.......someone is offering a trade for my sons .410 http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/89758-wtt-saiga-410/ Looks to be "converted trigger group"? Does it have a bullet guide, etc? Found this photo on the internet......this is how he described it to me..... Edited August 30, 2013 by Saiga Power Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaKen 338 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 ......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaKen 338 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Only info I can find http://www.izhmash.ru/eng/product/saiga.shtml Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 I dont think it will have a bullet guide, as its still a sporting rifle, so to speak. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaKen 338 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Does look like the trigger is in the proper position though (on thumbhole stock version) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Does look like the trigger is in the proper position though (on thumbhole stock version) Yeah, it shouldnt be much different than a Vepr rifle, only a Saiga version. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaKen 338 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Would an addition of the bullet guide be the only necessary upgrade for additional mag capabilities? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Would an addition of the bullet guide be the only necessary upgrade for additional mag capabilities? You'll still have to either swap the mag release, or file the current one down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaKen 338 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Actual gun in offer...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Looks good. Its basically Izhmash's version of a Vepr. Put a guide in it, and file the catch, and you can feed it standard mags. They usually are great shooters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaKen 338 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Appears to be a 2008 serial number Mags, scope, bipod, scope mount included..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Id trade it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaKen 338 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 never installed a bullet guide myself.....but I think I can find someone local to do it...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Its not hard. The Vepr rifles are more of a pain in the ass, IMO. There are tons of info on here that will help you do it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaKen 338 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Does it involved welding? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Nope. You buy the kit, and drill and tap the hole in front of the chamber, then use some loctite on the threads of the screw, and simply screw it down. Care must be used though when tapping. Go slow, and blow out the debris often so it dont bind the tap. It can be done in under an hour if you never done one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaKen 338 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Nice......up to my son, but sounds like a good deal And, he is in my state so we can just UPS or USPS our long guns right to our houses without an FFL taking my cash.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 The good thing about the guide is that it will feed standard AK mags, but you will have file the catch down, and then mod the mags that have a built in bullet guide. Its not hard at all to do that. I have a thread here in the Vepr 5.45 section that gives you a great idea of how much material to remove from the mags that have a built in guide. http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/80377-vepr-545-closer-look/ Theres some good info in this if you need it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaKen 338 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Nice.....I will look at it further when I get home in the morning.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Nice.....I will look at it further when I get home in the morning.... Please do. I love seeing people try new things. Especially when they think it through and gather as much info as possible prior. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaKen 338 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Was looking at DinZag to buy the kit and they also have instructions and a video posted. I will use yours and thiers in tandum.... Thanks Again! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Good choice! No problem bro. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mostholycerebus 415 Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 (edited) I have one. Its really nice. Wood is kinda semi-finished. Could use a coat of something to seal it. I started a refinish project on mine. Converting is as simple as adding a bullet guide, and filing the mag catch. As always, file the catch to accept a comblock stel mag, then file other mags to fit that. Tapcos can be a tight fit. Watch your 922r count. Its a great shooter, but the trigger is pretty miserable. Random break point, gritty, even after a few hundred rounds. Changing the FCG is not easy because the safety lever cant be removed. You can see this in your first pic, the part of the safety lever inside the receiver has a wide 'tail' that extends down, when you rotate the safety lever to remove it, that contacts the rear of the FCG, making removal imposible. Someone more knowledgable than me could probably file/dremel something back there, but im afraid to mess with it. I may end up having a smith install a Red Star arms FCG for me, because i really wanna see what it will do with a good trigger. You better be happy with the wood, because converting the rear is difficult. One poster here tried a Vepr adapter, but the angle was wrong. I have a TAKD ace block adapter that I relieved to fit the tang. TAKD also has an AR adapter plate that also allows the tang to not be cut, thats next on my list. When put on the rifle it covers the slant cut, and is black-on-black, so doesnt look bad. But the screw doesnt go all the way down on mine, so it needs some fitting. I have a weaver 2-10x56 that I really want on this thing, but it desperately needs a cheek riser. I didnt wanna cut the wood, so I wont stop til I get an AR stock on there The thing is heavy, and wood is not as nice as the Vepr, and build quality not as nice as the vepr (but nice), and aftermarket isnt as nice as the vepr (non-existent). But a vepr is $600 and this cost me $430. If centerfire still had $500 veprs, no contest, but if you can get an M series at a good price, its a really good gun. I have a similar bipod mounted like the one pictured, works great. Mine is NOT threaded under sight block. You will most likely need a new FSB to get a flash hider there. Also, the leaf sight is 300m, you may wanna eventually get a 1000m leaf. Edited September 2, 2013 by mostholycerebus 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaKen 338 Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 ^^^^ Thanks for the info.....Hope my son will like the stock.....Dont see him shooting it much until spring, so I will have some time to mess with it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richUK 90 Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 My triggers the same as the one in the pic and my safety lever comes out, I just push the other part down slightly and move the lever up and out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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