kal 0 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 I was reading about the saiga 12 on wikipedia and it said that leaving 12ga shells in the mags for a few days will cause the shells mouth to turn into an oval and will cause a failure to feed. Is this true? Have any of you had this happen? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mccumber1916 1 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 I was reading about the saiga 12 on wikipedia and it said that leaving 12ga shells in the mags for a few days will cause the shells mouth to turn into an oval and will cause a failure to feed. Is this true? Have any of you had this happen? they left out the "on a closed bolt" part Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Yes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
topmaul 42 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Two ways around it leave the bolt locked back or leave the magazine out of the gun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joelrod47 373 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Yes LOFL !!!!! I love it !!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mccumber1916 1 Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Yes LOFL !!!!! I love it !!!! just gotta love the blunt to the point directness Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joelrod47 373 Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Yes LOFL !!!!! I love it !!!! just gotta love the blunt to the point directness Aw, Mc............Tony's not really blunt........He's just really concise when he replies!! If you could just get that from everyone, wow............. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mccumber1916 1 Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Yes LOFL !!!!! I love it !!!! just gotta love the blunt to the point directness Aw, Mc............Tony's not really blunt........He's just really concise when he replies!! If you could just get that from everyone, wow............. that's what i mean by blunt... say it like it is... concise Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 went to wiki and changed the wording to Ammunition left in loaded magazines will acquire a oval shape caused by the magazine spring squeezing the shells together in the magazine. This will cause a failure to feed if shotgun shells are left in a loaded magazine inserted into a closed bolt shotgun for more than a few days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Coc 0 Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Just out of curiosity, I know Silver Bear isn't exactly the healthiest ammo for your receiver to shoot, but does it offer a fix for this problem? In theory, you could leave a silver bear at the top of a magazine you wanted to keep in the gun, and the metal hull shouldn't deform under stress, could you not? This is, of course, after you have field-tested the functionality of chambering, firing and ejecting metal shells in your gun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 I keep a Barnul steel hull (all"bear" ammo is barnul) in the top round. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kalash 0 Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 Does this still apply if your mag is loaded with slugs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Etek 32 Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 Try it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 Slugs, being solid don't deform like shot. However if stored in the mag unnder the bolt in HOT (car) places the plastic itself may flatten some. The steel hulls from Barnul/bear don't have this problem. HOWEVER steel hulls are fragile at the mouth of the shell and will bend/dent if dropped or banged around-not suitable for bandoliers! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kmoore 3 Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Does this still apply if your mag is loaded with slugs? Seems like someone reported a problem with slugs a little while back ... which did surprise me. IIRC, the slug was recessed in the shell, the only the end plastic deformed, but that was enough to fail to chamber. So, like was said, try it with the rounds that you would like to use, then you'll know. I don't know how long it a sufficient period. i.e. if it's ever going to flatten, then it'll happen in XX days. Maybe I'll have to test this again ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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