Saiga 12 Ultimak rail Incompatible with Larue.

[Salmonaxe 0]

Just an FYI to all you folks out there. If you want to use one of the new Ultimak rails for your Saiga 12, the Larue throw lever won't work.

 

Larue's throw levers need clearance below the rail. The Ultimak rail juts out and blocks the Larue from fully closing. Even though I don't like ARMS mounts, they fit. So I'm using that instead. I tried a QRP and that also worked.

 

Also, this rail system is quite nice. It sits even lower than one of the low Kvar mounts. (About 1/2 inch lower.) Currently I've got an Aimpoint Comp M2 mounted in an the ARMS M68. I'm thinking that it might be even nicer to get lower using a unit like the Burris Fastfire (Jpoint type optic) or an Aimpoint Micro. (I'd LOVE to have an Aimpoint micro.)

 

I'm thinking I might just have to try mounting it using one of the really low Aimpoint manufactured rings.

[Cobra 76 two 2,678]

I don't think you would have that problem with my rail system.

[getitat 609]

Just an FYI to all you folks out there. If you want to use one of the new Ultimak rails for your Saiga 12, the Larue throw lever won't work.

 

Larue's throw levers need clearance below the rail. The Ultimak rail juts out and blocks the Larue from fully closing. Even though I don't like ARMS mounts, they fit. So I'm using that instead. I tried a QRP and that also worked.

 

Also, this rail system is quite nice. It sits even lower than one of the low Kvar mounts. (About 1/2 inch lower.) Currently I've got an Aimpoint Comp M2 mounted in an the ARMS M68. I'm thinking that it might be even nicer to get lower using a unit like the Burris Fastfire (Jpoint type optic) or an Aimpoint Micro. (I'd LOVE to have an Aimpoint micro.)

 

I'm thinking I might just have to try mounting it using one of the really low Aimpoint manufactured rings.

 

Hello, Salmonaxe

 

I have one with a Docter red dot mounted. (Would've got Cobra's, but I thought they were just for rail-type guns...) I'm trying to rig up an "iron sight co-witness" system. I have a GG&G MAD flip-up rear (low enough to clear the Docter) but the front may be a problem. I'm going to be modifying an AR barrel-clamp flip-up to fit the S12 barrel, but I'll have to see if it will be high enough. If not, I'll clamp on an AR bull barrel gas block with top rail and use a rail-mounted flip-up front. May have to score a YHM 1/2" riser block for that....

-I'm gonna have a pretty good collection of iron sights by the time I get this resolved, I think!

 

What do you like about the AimPoint micro? I'm only asking because I don't know much about them.

I have an AimPoint M2 2x on my .45 Storm, and I really like it in that application. Haven't seen the Micro, though....

 

Respectfully posted,

guido2 in Houston

Edited September 26, 2007 by guido2

[Salmonaxe 0]

Well, mainly I really really like Aimpoints. I probably have 5-6 of them on various rifles and on my Saiga. The Aimpoint has really good battery life, a simple design and can take a lot of abuse. With the micro, it has that same level of battery life and durability in a WAY smaller package. Yet, it only has a tube diameter that's about 3/4 the size of a standard Aimpoint M2.

 

I really value the durability of my optics since I live in a wet climate. On top of that, the micro should sit even lower than a standard Aimpoint and weighs considerably less. This should be a great combination for a shotgun. Also, Aimpoints have one of the brightest dots I've ever seen. I've never had any issues with my dot washing out, even on very bright sunny days. I think that high visibility is a must for a shotgun which main purpose is 3-gun.

 

I think I'll be saving some clams and selling off a few accessories in order to fund a Micro. Hopefully I'll have it before my next 3-gun.