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#31 pt92

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Posted 16 July 2008 - 09:32 PM

Got my mags back from AGP and they work flawlessly--GREAT customer service to be sure.

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Posted 15 August 2008 - 01:44 AM

Mine work great! Still pretty new and stiff, but no probs or failures

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 04:24 PM

I just ordered (5) 10 rounders direct from AGP. The mags arrived promptly and were absolutely top notch. The only thing killing me is that I'm still about 8 weeks out from receiving my tax stamp, so no shooting yet. I'll post a range report as soon as I can, but these mags definitely get a 10 for first impressions.

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 06:35 PM

I have three 10 rounders and have been very happy with them. I have never experienced any issues with them. They also look badass in the weapon. :devil:

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Posted 12 September 2008 - 09:38 AM

At the same time I bought my Saiga-12, I got 3 AGP 10 rounders. Frankly, I had myriad issues. They were very difficult to "unravel" because some were gun related and some were mag related and some was an interplay between the two.

Be that as it may, the folks at AGP were very helpful and bent over backwards to get me fixed up. I ended up solving the rounds "sticking" in the magazine problem by taking an emery cloth to the inside of the mag (the little rails that run up the back of both sides). I disassembled the mags and took material until the rounds would drop freely through the magazine.

The mags were very hard to insert into the gun. I isolated that problem as being related to the bolt. I relieved the underside of the bolt by removing enough material that the top round in the magazine does not put undue pressure on the bolt when it is being inserted. -- works fine.

I also had a feed problem that was helped by "ramping" (to use a 1911 term) the entrance to the barrel with a dremel tool.

I also had a problem with "stovepipes." That one was solved by polishing the fixed side of the extractor so the rim of the shell would slide freely (without hangups) in and out of the extractor.

The 10 rounders are very cumbersome to me when trying to execute a quick re-load. I suppose that will improve with practice. In the meantime, she sits in the corner stoked with 11 rounds (10 round mag + 1 in the chamber) with the 5 round factory mag as a spare.

Speaking of which...I ordered 3 Taiwanese 5 rounders off of the front page of Saiga-12.com. The arrived the day before yesterday. None of them can be inserted into the mag well at all--not even with a little force. It seems that the longitudinal axis is too long for the mag well. The mag hangs up on the receiver before it gets in deep enough for the mag latch to catch.

Anyway, I e-mailed the vendor (by replying to my order confirmation) yesterday but have yet to receive a reply. We'll see.

Meantime, if any of you have any idea of a quick fix. I'd sure appreciate it. You can PM me at editor@flyoverpress.com

Have a great weekend sniffing burnt smokeless powder.

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Posted 12 September 2008 - 11:04 AM

At the same time I bought my Saiga-12, I got 3 AGP 10 rounders. Frankly, I had myriad issues. They were very difficult to "unravel" because some were gun related and some were mag related and some was an interplay between the two.

Be that as it may, the folks at AGP were very helpful and bent over backwards to get me fixed up. I ended up solving the rounds "sticking" in the magazine problem by taking an emery cloth to the inside of the mag (the little rails that run up the back of both sides). I disassembled the mags and took material until the rounds would drop freely through the magazine.

The mags were very hard to insert into the gun. I isolated that problem as being related to the bolt. I relieved the underside of the bolt by removing enough material that the top round in the magazine does not put undue pressure on the bolt when it is being inserted. -- works fine.

I also had a feed problem that was helped by "ramping" (to use a 1911 term) the entrance to the barrel with a dremel tool.

I also had a problem with "stovepipes." That one was solved by polishing the fixed side of the extractor so the rim of the shell would slide freely (without hangups) in and out of the extractor.

The 10 rounders are very cumbersome to me when trying to execute a quick re-load. I suppose that will improve with practice. In the meantime, she sits in the corner stoked with 11 rounds (10 round mag + 1 in the chamber) with the 5 round factory mag as a spare.

Speaking of which...I ordered 3 Taiwanese 5 rounders off of the front page of Saiga-12.com. The arrived the day before yesterday. None of them can be inserted into the mag well at all--not even with a little force. It seems that the longitudinal axis is too long for the mag well. The mag hangs up on the receiver before it gets in deep enough for the mag latch to catch.

Anyway, I e-mailed the vendor (by replying to my order confirmation) yesterday but have yet to receive a reply. We'll see.

Meantime, if any of you have any idea of a quick fix. I'd sure appreciate it. You can PM me at editor@flyoverpress.com

Have a great weekend sniffing burnt smokeless powder.

thegunny, 419


The mags from Taiwan must be filed down to fit. Once you do this they will fit and cycle reliably.

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 11:23 AM

The mags from Taiwan must be filed down to fit. Once you do this they will fit and cycle reliably.

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Roger that! Looks to me like most of the filing should be done on the back (metal) part of the magazine. Right?

Thanks for the response.

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Posted 27 September 2008 - 01:40 AM

Mine is too big to carry as a backup while deer hunting. The 8-rounder is plenty. I'll save mine for combat.

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Posted 07 October 2008 - 05:03 AM

I have 3 AGP ten-rounders, and have put about 500 rounds total through them (50 buckshot, 50 slugs, about 400 various birdshot), and haven't had a single problem. I have, however, knocked the feed lips off my factory 5-round mag when trying to seat it in the mag well, resulting in all five shells spilling and the ground and the feed lips hitting me in the face. After reading the post about rusting mag springs, I removed the baseplates on all my Saiga mags, cleaned the springs and sprayed them with gun oil.

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Posted 07 October 2008 - 05:56 PM

i had a problem with my agp 10 round i call the number here they send me new part 2 days later the problem was gun magazine works perfect if agp ppl are reading this please make some 8 round agp mags

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Posted 12 October 2008 - 01:11 PM

I have purchased 6 AGP mags. All 6 AGP mags are bad. The rounds seem to jump out of the "rail" guide.--May be from the recoil- which cause the rounds to get stuck in the mags.
AGP guys said send them back and they will make it right. Cool...
fast respondes... I hope my issues are fixed. I always have bad luck with these things.-gun related items- :devil:

Edited by outofammo, 12 October 2008 - 02:18 PM.


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Posted 12 October 2008 - 01:21 PM

All 5 of my AGPs must be bad...they work flawlessly.

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Posted 12 October 2008 - 02:21 PM

All 5 of my AGPs must be bad...they work flawlessly.

Man, I wish I had your luck...I'm jealous...Hopefully, All my mags will work flawlessly also when I get them back. :D

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Posted 20 October 2008 - 12:49 AM

I just ordered a 10rd from the Saiga-12 store, and they referred to it as Gen 2. What exactly does this mean? Did they modify them in some way?
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Posted 04 November 2008 - 07:33 PM

I have a single AGP 10rd mag, I'm planning on more soon.

It seems to work quite well but I have not been able to cycle Federal 00buck at all, I can not even chamber a round, I tried the 3in and 2 3/4 and still no go, I have not had any issues with the winchester stuff I have been shooting.

Any tips?

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Posted 05 November 2008 - 12:13 AM

I have a single AGP 10rd mag, I'm planning on more soon.

It seems to work quite well but I have not been able to cycle Federal 00buck at all, I can not even chamber a round, I tried the 3in and 2 3/4 and still no go, I have not had any issues with the winchester stuff I have been shooting.

Any tips?

The Federal Tactical 00 buck with the Flight Control Cup works flawlessly in my Saiga-12's. The manufactureres designation is LE127-00. Is that the Buck you're referring to?

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Posted 05 November 2008 - 01:55 AM

I have a single AGP 10rd mag, I'm planning on more soon.

It seems to work quite well but I have not been able to cycle Federal 00buck at all, I can not even chamber a round, I tried the 3in and 2 3/4 and still no go, I have not had any issues with the winchester stuff I have been shooting.

Any tips?

The Federal Tactical 00 buck with the Flight Control Cup works flawlessly in my Saiga-12's. The manufactureres designation is LE127-00. Is that the Buck you're referring to?


Yeah that's the stuff, it runs flawless through my factory 5rd mag, but I can't get it to cycle in my AGP 10rd.

I just ordered another mag from AGP. It may be an issue with the 10rd mag I have, and I need another. :)

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 01:51 PM

I have an interesting problem. I believe my AGP mags cycle fine with 2 3/4" shells, went through quite a few, but when using cheap walmart 3" 00 buck Mag shells(value packs) it broke the magazine at the front tab. Thought it was a fluke and tried another, first shot it broke the mag at the tab. The AGP guys are taking care of it but I can't for the life of me think why it would do that. It holds 3" shells and should be able to take a cheap walmart mag shell right? Both times they were totally full and on gas setting 1. Even if there was a feeding problem and was causing a jam it would have just jammed and not broke right?

Pretty sure they are GEN2 mags as I just got them late October.

Anybody see this problem?

Edited by kclo4, 12 December 2008 - 04:35 PM.


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Posted 12 December 2008 - 12:03 PM

I have an interesting problem. I believe my AGP mags cycle fine with 2 3/4" shells, went through quite a few, but when using cheap walmart 3" 00 buck Mag shells(value packs) it broke the magazine at the front tab. Thought it was a fluke and tried another, first shot it broke the mag at the tab. The AGP guys are taking care of it but I can't for the life of me think why it would do that. It holds 3" shells and should be able to take a cheap walmart mag shell right? Both times they were totally full and on gas setting 1. Even if there was a feeting problem and was causing a jam it would have just jammed and not broke right?

Pretty sure they are GEN2 mags as I just got them late October.

Anybody see this problem?



I just had the same problem you just described last weekend at the range. Wal-Mart 3” Buckshot magnums first round shot, front tab broken, mag on ground. I have contact AGP and they state they will replace shell of magazine…Waiting for replacement now. Mags was GEN2.

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 02:58 PM

I have a single AGP 10rd mag, I'm planning on more soon.

It seems to work quite well but I have not been able to cycle Federal 00buck at all, I can not even chamber a round, I tried the 3in and 2 3/4 and still no go, I have not had any issues with the winchester stuff I have been shooting.

Any tips?

The Federal Tactical 00 buck with the Flight Control Cup works flawlessly in my Saiga-12's. The manufactureres designation is LE127-00. Is that the Buck you're referring to?


Yeah that's the stuff, it runs flawless through my factory 5rd mag, but I can't get it to cycle in my AGP 10rd.

I just ordered another mag from AGP. It may be an issue with the 10rd mag I have, and I need another. :)


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Posted 12 December 2008 - 05:14 PM

I just had the same problem you just described last weekend at the range. Wal-Mart 3” Buckshot magnums first round shot, front tab broken, mag on ground. I have contact AGP and they state they will replace shell of magazine…Waiting for replacement now. Mags was GEN2.


Bummer, I was hoping it was just me but I guess you can't use these things for the bigger stuff. I guess I will see how mine do with the fresh bodies as well.

Edited by kclo4, 12 December 2008 - 05:22 PM.


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Posted 13 December 2008 - 03:53 PM

I picked up 2 saiga 12 :super: gen 2 AGP mags today at a local gun show brand new 100.00!!!

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Posted 14 December 2008 - 04:12 AM

I bought three more AGP mags and I have not been able to get to the range yet, I was able to cycle the federal stuff no problem with the other mags, there may be an issue with that one agp mag.

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Posted 15 December 2008 - 11:50 PM

The only thing that I have not been able to get to reliably feed through my AGP mags is the cheap Wal-Mart Winchester bulk pack. My Saiga-12 doesn't even feed this ammo with the factory mag. Feeds everything else fine, inclueding the Wal-Mart Federal bulk pack. I have 10 of the AGP mags. 100-rnds of 12 Gauge through a semi-auto with a detachable mag is very impressive.

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Posted 07 January 2009 - 01:11 AM

I had a loaded 10 rd AGP mag slip out of my hand and hit the deck today. It totally exploded. Shells, spring, and one part of the follower all over the place. Obviously you're not supposed to drop these things but it will happen. I was surprised how this thing came apart, though. I would have guessed it would lose a couple shells at the most. Not sure what part of it struck the floor but no peices are broken or deformed, it just needs to be put back together. Has anybody else had this happen and any advice to make sure I get this thing back together correctly?

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Posted 08 January 2009 - 11:57 AM

Just a quick note of thanks to Kevin, the owner (I think) of AGP. A couple of elections ago, I bought 3 AGP "Gen 1" Saiga 12 mags, even though I didn't have the shotgun yet.

I just recently acquired the shotgun, but when I tried the new (old) mags, they didn't seat without filing, so I called and asked what to do. John and Kevin (the employee, not the owner) were very kind and great customer service emmisaries for their product and business.

Long story short, I sent back the "old" mags, even though it had been a YEAR or so, and got a free replacement of "Gen 2" mags in the mail. There was even a short handwritten note from Kevin! (the owner)

I've had some feed problems using the new mags, but they did seat properly and I think it's the newness of the "Vodka special", not the mags... But I'm still working on that.

But honestly, if more businesses acted like these people, I'd be a lot more inclined to mail order more goods. For example, I just spent over $2000 with Gilberts Guns (which I *thought* was going to be a trouble-free order) and got jerked around liked some panty-waist liberal. I don't like to yell and I usually don't have to, but I sure felt like yelling at the people at Gilbert's after spending all that money with them and being overcharged and underwhelmed.

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 03:55 AM

I don't have a ton of experience with AGP mags yet, as I've not even had my S12 for a week yet. However, I have put 100+ rounds through my gun (mainly with a Surefire mag), so it's still being "broken in". A buddy of mine, and a well known member here, let me try out one of his AGP mags. It must have been a bad one because the first shot broke the front tab right off. No 3" magnums or anything. 00 Buck I believe. I think it was on gas setting 1.

He said that he had put 1000s of rounds through some other AGP mags without a problem though. So I suspect it was just a fluke.
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Posted 13 February 2009 - 12:19 AM

I have a pair of 10 rounders and I love them, a gen and gen 2. The gen two needed fitting to lock in. Plastic mags are are always suspect to me.

The plastic beneath the front tab broke off my gen 1 after less than 300 rounds. I wish the tabs of the mag was made of a metal incorporated into the plastic.

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Posted 13 February 2009 - 09:43 AM

I bought two 10-rounders and have only put 20 rounds each through them - to check them out - but they both worked flawlessly.

Granted, they're young and new and all, but so far I love 'em.
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Posted 22 February 2009 - 09:04 PM

My AGP magazine works flawlessly now that I hand cycled a fired steel case in the magazine a few hundred times. This smoothed out the sticking spots and now the follower cycles smoothly. It's great to shoot ten rounds consecutively. APG makes a great product. I would like to see eight rounders since the ten rounders are too tall.

I got an AK 40 round magazine pouch and the AGP and Pro Mag magazines fit in it perfectly.
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