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#181 ScuseMePrincess

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 04:31 PM

I have a quick question for you all: The other day, I went to the range and tried my AGP 10 rounders. They fell out of my S12 after firing once or twice. The Izzy 5 rounder worked fine, however, even with 3-inch slugs. I compared the AGPs to the factory mag, and it looks like the AGPs have a smaller tab on the backside of the mag than the factory one does. A lot of people say you need to grind aftermarket mags a little bit to get them to fit in your particular gun, but it seems like the mags are too loose for mine.

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 04:24 PM

What generation mag are you using?

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 11:16 PM

No, I had to file my AGP to fit in my new S-12, I didn't have to for the old one. The problem that I believe that you are having, SMP, is that your mag is keeping your mag catch from fully engaging properly and they fall out after a couple of shots...
I am now pulling back the thing that you pull back before you fire the gun...

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Posted 03 January 2012 - 01:39 PM

What generation mag are you using?


They're gen 2.

No, I had to file my AGP to fit in my new S-12, I didn't have to for the old one. The problem that I believe that you are having, SMP, is that your mag is keeping your mag catch from fully engaging properly and they fall out after a couple of shots...


I thought that might have been the case, but the backside of the AGPs looked smaller than the factory mag's, so I was hesitant to file any material off. Thanks for the info. I might try some experimenting today.

Edited by ScuseMePrincess, 03 January 2012 - 01:39 PM.


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Posted 03 January 2012 - 09:57 PM


What generation mag are you using?


They're gen 2.

No, I had to file my AGP to fit in my new S-12, I didn't have to for the old one. The problem that I believe that you are having, SMP, is that your mag is keeping your mag catch from fully engaging properly and they fall out after a couple of shots...


I thought that might have been the case, but the backside of the AGPs looked smaller than the factory mag's, so I was hesitant to file any material off. Thanks for the info. I might try some experimenting today.


I recommend "fitting" the mag the same way that Mike Davidson's video says to fit the drums.
I am now pulling back the thing that you pull back before you fire the gun...

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Posted 04 January 2012 - 02:39 PM

I just got 4 of the AGP mags from the Saiga store in GA, the eparts guys where they link to the forum and they worked perfectly for me today. I bought the 4 pack so I could save the $3.00 per mag, I'm cheap. No problems even on the rock and lock.
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#187 vicdoc

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 12:19 PM

I got the 4 AGP mags too, they fit my gun without any filing, as did my MD20. Mine must be one of those loose guns!

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 11:25 AM

guys check out calguns.net,nyshooters.net, ar-15 forums or even gunbroker before wasting your money at online stores or actual stores. The mag are the cheapest on forums when you get them from sellers. Google search: saiga1287

#189 FunkedOut

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 11:08 PM

the price is pretty good here:
http://www.saiga-12....rod=AGP-S12-MAG

i got mine when they were buy 4 or more for $27 each.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 08:30 PM

i just got my AGP gen 2 mag and my SGM , both 10 rounders . The AGP fits alot better than the SGM mag. both load fully loaded with closed bolt.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 10:49 PM

I just got two agp mags in the mail today. I haven't been able to try them on my gun as it is in pieces and the receiver is getting the rear tang Milled off and painted. Hopefully I can get the receiver back so I can finish my conversion and try the mags out. They look and feel like quality mags. Too bad I couldn't get the buy four deal. They only had two in stock when i got them. If i like them I will be buying more.

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 12:25 PM

How can you tell if you have a gen 2 mag or a older one? I have 2 10 rounders and want to cut them down to 8. Anyone done this?

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 12:52 PM

I just received 2 10rd AGP mags yesterday and so far I am impressed. The date on them says they were built in April of 2012 if I am reading it correctly. They seem very well made and fit the gun without having to file anything on them. I'm hoping to range test them tomorrow.

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 08:22 AM

Any tips for getting 10 round AGP Arms Mags to fit with the JT Engineering Magwell?

How about a ProMag 20 Round Drum?

 

Thanks!


Edited by Omega Invictus, 14 June 2014 - 08:44 AM.

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 01:48 PM

Any tips for getting 10 round AGP Arms Mags to fit with the JT Engineering Magwell?
How about a ProMag 20 Round Drum?
 
Thanks!


Here's my quick write up on making Agp mags work in the Vepr 12 magwell. I can't imagine JTEs magwell is far from Vepr 12 magwell specs. But this should at least give you an idea how to proceed. If all else, just take your time... Measure twice, cut once sorta thing.

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 03:07 AM

That's the general concensus I'm getting from various sources.

It appears there's no perfect science that applies to all models.

One just has to go about it carefully until it finally works.

At the current price of mags, a single good mistake can be a costly one.

 

Anyone ever hear of luck with modifying 20 round drums to fit a magwell conversion?

Comparing the two, it seems there's just not enough material sticking up from the drum to fully seat in securely.

 

Strange that stick mags & drums are designed so differently...


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Posted 18 June 2014 - 09:02 AM

Oh crap did I forget to paste the link? http://forum.saiga-1...epr-12-magwell/

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 02:26 PM

Hahaha!  I thought the sum of your advice was "just take your time... Measure twice, cut once".

I was like, damn, that was a quick write-up!

Thanks, Skoodge!


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