defendr200 0 Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 I was going through the older posts and saw a tank brake on a saiga 12. I haven't been able to find anything else on them, mainly where to get one. While I'm on this subject I'd thought I'd ask if there was any real reduction in recoil when using the tank brake? Thanks in advance, TJ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 I nice feller' in europe made and uses one for competition, and I also think there is another feller' from this side of the pond that has made one and used it. both were proven to be effective. they arent frequent fliers here, but maybe they will see this topic and chime in,. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wakal 10 Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Do you mean a "tank brake" like a M1 Abrams (the JP "end of the barrel with big ports to the side") thing) or the mid-barrel sort of triangly-looking thing? JP "tank brake" compensator (shown here on an AR15): Mid-barrel compensator (shown here on a Saiga): Alex Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Holy Crap, is that your Saiga, Alex? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 I believe that red jobbie is a nice finnish friend of ours'. FinnSaiga?? I think? Dont quote me on that. As I recall, he stated that there was about zero recoil with the thing. I thought Alex made something similar too??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
defendr200 0 Posted January 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 (edited) The one I was refering to is the one on the end of the barrel. I was looking for one shaped similar to the barret 50 cal. Similar to the one pictured in post #43 in the link below. I see that this is a clamp on, I was kind of hoping for a screw on style (a little cleaner looking). Thanks again for all the replies so far. http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showto...amp;#entry70337 Edited January 2, 2008 by defendr200 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
defendr200 0 Posted January 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Bueller, Bueller, Bueller? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wakal 10 Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Bob, that is Fred's old Saiga: The second generation version at the '07 USPSA 3-Gun nationals: Those asshats at Dreadnaught Industries are working on a commercial version of that mid-barrel comp. The prototype is on a shortened-gas gun and works like a champ Alex Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GearHeadFTW 0 Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 So where can I get that bolt on tank brake below? http://users.tkk.fi/~stnurmi/mag.jpg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RollingThunder 0 Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 I was going through the older posts and saw a tank brake on a saiga 12. I haven't been able to find anything else on them, mainly where to get one. While I'm on this subject I'd thought I'd ask if there was any real reduction in recoil when using the tank brake? Thanks in advance, TJ The brake you are looking for is made by a finnish guy. As far as I know he had access to a machine shop for a while but is not selling them brakes. There are quite a few references to this setup here on the forum and he actually explained the theory behind it in a post quite recently. The main idea was to reduce recoil and thereby muzzle flip. If you look at the gun there is (what I would consider) quite a lot of vertical distance between the stock and the barrel. Since recoil is almost eliminated there is still not much muzzle flip. Here are a few links: http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?s=&...st&p=186647 http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?s=&...st&p=149030 http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?s=&...st&p=149333 http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?s=&...st&p=114106 His stage name is "Jamshot". I guess you could always ask him why he is known by that name... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JumiKuula 1 Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 His stage name is "Jamshot". I guess you could always ask him why he is known by that name... I had a Tanfoglio P19 when I started IPSC and it was more or less manual action during 1st year. So, jamming gun means that user is ---> JamShot. Glocks works better. But removing failures is still fast thanks to compulsary training with Tanfoglio. I don't want to make more of those brakes since they have too complicated geometry to produce with regular mill tapps. Consider that angled ports do need long tapps and space to avoid tool holder to crash. This leads to slow feed and thinner chips for protecting ultra-long tapps (smaller radius on corners...) from snapping. Leading to dramatically longer work time, which isn't making it worth it. Costs would be too big to even dream of making masses of 'em with 3-axis CNC-mill availlable occasionally during nights. -JumiKuula aka JamShot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
defendr200 0 Posted January 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 I had to bite the bullet today and get a tromix shark brake. I was getting ready to lose my spot in line at mississppi auto arms. Thanks to everyone for the help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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