
I think I am going to buy a saiga .410 for experemtaion of this. looking for a used .410 Saiga. I should of bought that one for $250 a month ago.
here are a few images of my pistol that shoots both it has 1/3 to3/4" rifiling in the rnd of the barrel





Posted 08 January 2008 - 02:06 AM
Posted 08 January 2008 - 02:16 AM
Posted 08 January 2008 - 02:35 AM
guess I'll thorw it away because it SUCKS lol J/k thanks for the feedbackIf your shotty is full choked, you'll plug it up or blow it up.
Shotguns that fire pistol rounds usually suck at doing both in the accuracy department, even if the barrel is able to hande the pistol bullet.
Posted 08 January 2008 - 06:25 AM
I have a pistol that is my backup for my back up (listed on my ccw) it's a .410 / 45 long colt pistol. I was wondering if it would be possible to shoot 45 long colt by making some sort of rifled choke kind of thing thing goes on the end of the barrel (to give the bullet some spin). I know that long colt will chamber in a .410 barrel. Is there any kind of doube stack mag for 45 long colt a long single will work. I plan on making a mag block that the clip will slide in the forward protion of themag well and lock int the block. I dont know if I will even need to make a feed ramp if i can position the round forward enough (in the mag well) as the round is only one inch short of a 2 3/4" .410 shell. It would be lie a wild west cowboy gun meets russian tech
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I think I am going to buy a saiga .410 for experemtaion of this. looking for a used .410 Saiga. I should of bought that one for $250 a month ago.
here are a few images of my pistol that shoots both it has 1/3 to3/4" rifiling in the rnd of the barrel
Posted 08 January 2008 - 10:09 AM
Posted 08 January 2008 - 10:20 AM
Posted 08 January 2008 - 10:40 AM
Yes, it is rimmed and it fits perfectly inside a .410 chamber. This is why everybody gets "the light bulb".It is a rimmed cartridge right?
Edited by nalioth, 08 January 2008 - 10:42 AM.
Posted 08 January 2008 - 10:41 AM
Posted 08 January 2008 - 11:00 AM
Yes, it is rimmed and it fits perfectly inside a .410 chamber. This is why everybody gets "the light bulb".It is a rimmed cartridge right?
Unfortunately, a lot of people don't think it through and get "the bright flash", too.
Posted 08 January 2008 - 11:05 AM
Posted 08 January 2008 - 11:27 AM
It's an interesting project, but you don't actually carry that antique, do you?
Posted 08 January 2008 - 11:31 AM
BTW nice pistol there. Turbo you can get an over and under model Derringer that is similar to that brand new. My dealer has one.
Posted 08 January 2008 - 11:38 AM
It's an interesting project, but you don't actually carry that antique, do you?
Well I've got pictures below of what my backup-backup (third) carry gun is. His has the advantages of larger caliber (45-Colt/410-shot vs. 32-ACP) and quicker reloads (Top Break Side-by-Side vs. Flip-Up Over-Under). Granted his is for his backup (second) carry gun and mine is for my backup-backup (third) carry gun but hey if it goes bang it's better then your bare fists.
And oh, yes, I did look it up in my notes and it is indeed the 38-40 Winchester metallic cowboy catridge that can be safely loaded and fired in a 410 shot gun. I've done it myself with my full choke break action single shot. Bullet diameter is 0.400" so you can fire it even through a choked gun. and pressure levels are about 13-Kpsi for most loads so your plently safe.
Posted 08 January 2008 - 12:29 PM
Posted 08 January 2008 - 08:55 PM
Thanks for all of the information. I have had this gun for over 10 years . I have shot it 100 times or more. As to the question do I carry it? Yes I do right in my jacket pocket. I can hit at 15 yards no problem, at 2 ft man is that person in trouble! 2- 3" magnum .410 slugs unloaded at once in your chest, I think you better call 911. I have a gen 1 glock 17 as my primary waist inside band. My secondary is the sweetest shooting HK P&PSP squeeze cocker, Ankle holster (i don't think it gets more accurate than that pistol) and third is the FMJ ducktown AKA Cobray jacket pocket. I know that everyone loves the .45acp but I like the nine It i have to shoot you 2 or 3 times so be it I have 19 rounds +8 +2 that should be enough.Bottom line is, you should never fire anything other than what is marked on your firearm. Just because the cartridge fits in the chamber, doesn't mean it's safe or a 'good thing to do'.
Luckily, Darwins law prevails upon folks who do think that this is safely doable.
Posted 09 January 2008 - 12:44 AM
I can hit at 15 yards no problem, at 2 ft man is that person in trouble! 2- 3" magnum .410 slugs unloaded at once in your chest, I think you better call 911.
Posted 09 January 2008 - 12:26 PM
You carry a lot more hardware than anybody I know.
Posted 09 January 2008 - 01:01 PM
Posted 09 January 2008 - 01:14 PM
Why, in a combat wheelbarrow, of course!How do you lug all that crap around in the summertime?
Posted 09 January 2008 - 01:43 PM
Edited by 6x6pinz, 09 January 2008 - 01:44 PM.
Posted 09 January 2008 - 02:58 PM
I just carry 2 most fo the time. When I go out of town on my Chopper I take all 4. In the bike world it can get real messy! When going to store I just take the glock. What good are guns sitting at home on the table or in the safe. Sometimes on the way home from work I stop at the range and get in some time, maybe 3 to 4 times a week. I dont like my guns to be sitting in the valet or a parking lot so I take them with. It isnt for fear or any thing like that. The G3 and the ducktown are so small they count as !You carry a lot more hardware than anybody I know.
Edited by ar15pistolpimp, 09 January 2008 - 03:06 PM.
Posted 09 January 2008 - 05:24 PM
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Posted 09 January 2008 - 06:44 PM
So what your saying for any BATFE wandering by is you've manufactured an illegal machine gun.AS far as shootin both barrels, I have made a special selector that allows me to shoot both.
http://www4.law.corn...45----000-.htmlB Machinegun
The term “machinegun” means any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger. The term shall also include the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any part designed and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun, and any combination of parts from which a machinegun can be assembled if such parts are in the possession or under the control of a person.
Posted 09 January 2008 - 07:01 PM
Posted 09 January 2008 - 07:42 PM
"Such term shall not include a pistol or a revolver having a rifled bore, or rifled bores, or weapons designed, made, or intended to be fired from the shoulder and not capable of firing fixed ammunition. " i dont this its a machine gun at all BroSo what your saying for any BATFE wandering by is you've manufactured an illegal machine gun.AS far as shootin both barrels, I have made a special selector that allows me to shoot both.
you really ain't too bright is ya?http://www4.law.corn...45----000-.htmlB Machinegun
The term “machinegun” means any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger. The term shall also include the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any part designed and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun, and any combination of parts from which a machinegun can be assembled if such parts are in the possession or under the control of a person.
Posted 09 January 2008 - 07:51 PM
"Such term shall not include a pistol or a revolver having a rifled bore, or rifled bores, or weapons designed, made, or intended to be fired from the shoulder and not capable of firing fixed ammunition. " i dont this its a machine gun at all BroSo what your saying for any BATFE wandering by is you've manufactured an illegal machine gun.AS far as shootin both barrels, I have made a special selector that allows me to shoot both.
you really ain't too bright is ya?http://www4.law.corn...45----000-.htmlB Machinegun
The term “machinegun” means any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger. The term shall also include the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any part designed and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun, and any combination of parts from which a machinegun can be assembled if such parts are in the possession or under the control of a person.
Posted 09 January 2008 - 08:27 PM
did i mention it has 2 triggers"Such term shall not include a pistol or a revolver having a rifled bore, or rifled bores, or weapons designed, made, or intended to be fired from the shoulder and not capable of firing fixed ammunition. " i dont this its a machine gun at all BroSo what your saying for any BATFE wandering by is you've manufactured an illegal machine gun.AS far as shootin both barrels, I have made a special selector that allows me to shoot both.
you really ain't too bright is ya?http://www4.law.corn...45----000-.htmlB Machinegun
The term ”machinegun” means any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger. The term shall also include the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any part designed and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun, and any combination of parts from which a machinegun can be assembled if such parts are in the possession or under the control of a person.
It's gonna be awful quiet around here without you.
Edited by ar15pistolpimp, 09 January 2008 - 08:29 PM.
Posted 10 January 2008 - 04:46 PM
why are your quoting what is not eligilbe to be an AOW ?"Such term shall not include a pistol or a revolver having a rifled bore, or rifled bores, or weapons designed, made, or intended to be fired from the shoulder and not capable of firing fixed ammunition. "
i dont "THINK" this its a machine gun at all Bro
did i mention it has 2 triggers
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