violentliver 0 Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 was wondering,anyone here into mosin nagant bolt-action rifles?I am gonna get one soon,and I wonder how it is.Plenty of new non-corrosive ammo around for cheap.It would sure probly make a nice hunting rifle,its got some balls. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ter 0 Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Own 8. 5- 91/59's, 2- 91/30's and 1-M91. I love these old rifles and as you can tell my favorites are the 91/59's. I use only surplus ammo and have found corrosive ammo to be no problem. shoot a little Windex w/ammonia down the bore and on the bolt head to neutralize the corrosive salts , then clean as usual. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VacuumReactor 0 Posted November 21, 2003 Report Share Posted November 21, 2003 (edited) I have a Mosin Nagant carbine (M44 I think...). I've had it for a couple years and despite the addition of my Winchester M70 (.308), the Mosin is still the crowd pleaser. The flame that comes out of the muzzle is great. Get some Wolf 200 grain ammo and you'll have the "Mosin stamp of approval" on your shoulder for days after! Every now and then you'll have those guys at the gun range with no ear plugs. One shot from the Mosin they all cringe... I got mine for $80. Not a scratch on it. In fact, it might not have ever been fired for all I know. Manufactured 1945. I always say it's the best $80 I ever spent... Edited November 21, 2003 by VacuumReactor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
duffman 1 Posted November 22, 2003 Report Share Posted November 22, 2003 M-44 with surplus ammo is a good time. Between sounding like a cannon and the fire ball out the muzzle, they are a definate attention getter. Seems that everyone that shoots one ends up wanting one of their own. As far as corrosive ammo, windex with amonia is the best/easiest neutralizer I've ever used. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chips 0 Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 i got one a while back, and i love it. it has a massive muzzle blast, and a pretty good kick. overall, its just fun to shoot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aka108 0 Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 I shoot a model 39 and several of the carbine length Mosins. The 39 is extremely accurate. The carbine length ones a little less so but very good for their initial intended purpose.The Mosin's bolt action is not the smoothers around when compared to that of the Mauser types. Enjoyable to shoot and the costs are not out of sight. Think you will like it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chips 0 Posted December 20, 2003 Report Share Posted December 20, 2003 i got mine at a gun show for only $69, and im pretty sure it had never been fired before Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DemonDesert 0 Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 I got a 91/30 a month ago, and I love it. Don't think you could go wrong with which ever model you choose, but I wouldn't hesitate to recommend the 91/30. And I love the bayonet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stevem 0 Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 I've got a few new rifles in the last couple of years & now I want to collect some relics.I need to get a M91/30 mosin and maybe a 44 too.I also need to get a German K98 with the marking mostly intact.I was thinking about a yugoM48 mauser as a cheaper alternative, but I don't know how much longer the German's will be avaliable, so I should get one of them first.Maybe this spring when the tax refund comes in.Do you guys know where's a good place to get these rifles?I have a dealer that will let me use his FFL.It would be nice to find somewhere around here in central NY so I can see what I'm getting.Ordering over the net kinda worries me a little, but that's probobly what I'll have to do.Does CDNN carry relics? It's like a disease... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DemonDesert 0 Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 I have had the itch for both an M44 and a K98 Mauser myself. I mean to pick up the former in a month or so. The only thing that has kept me from getting the Mauser is the dred of having to purchase and keep up with yet another kind of ammunition. Some day. . . Do they have the Big Five sporting goods stores where you live, stevem? They seem to always have the M44s, and generally put them on sale every other week. At any rate, at every gun show I have been to there has always been a reasonably nice amount of M44s, and at least a few Mausers. At the last show I kept eyeballing a Mauser, but fate introduced me to my first Saiga--love at first sight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DemonDesert 0 Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 Oh, I should have interjected this, violentliver (there's a story behind that name, right?), yeah, Mosins make nice hunting rifles. I dropped a medium-sized hog last week with mine. That round seems to pack a wallop. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stevem 0 Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 Never heard of Big five sporting goods around here.Most of the dealers around here only deal with hunting rifles and look at me like I have three eyes when I ask them to order old mil surp stuff for me.I also havn't seen a gun show here in about a year&1/2.I bought my first Saiga a gun show and so began my new addiction of collecting firearms.I just got a gun safe last weekend so now I need to get some more to fill it up properly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DemonDesert 0 Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 What kind of gun safe did you get? I badly need to get one myself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
40bikes 0 Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 Mosins are my personal addiction. I've got a M38,2-M39s,a91,2-91/30(one Tikka Finn)2-M44s and a 91/59. I have gotten in the habit of giving them as gifts as well;gave a couple at Church, my boys and my father-in law and one of my brothersand a co-worker. Paid as little as 27 and no more than $125 They are a hobby all by themselves. I've given up collecting and actually shoot those that I have. GREAT guns and a lot of fun. bikes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stevem 0 Posted January 10, 2004 Report Share Posted January 10, 2004 (edited) What kind of gun safe did you get? I badly need to get one myself. I got a Sentry 14 gun combination safe.It's not fireproof though.Walmart had them marked way down after Christmas- I got it for $275.(they were $369 a month earlier)What a bargain.No wonder Walmart is putting everyone out of business. Edited January 10, 2004 by stevem Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Verson 0 Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 I've just ordered my first m44 sporter, and cant wait to take it to the range. Thanks for the info on the corrosive ammo, I was thinking about asking about that, but now I know what to do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thousand son 0 Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 Yea I have a M44 carbine and love it,I can hit a 1 foot square plate at 200 yards offhand with the iron sights(set as it came) about 95% of the time,also have a Czech VZ24 with a tigerwood grain original stock and a 20 round trench mag attached-it gets the looks! i also have an Austrian M95 in 8x56r,odd caliber,no bullets to reload -.311 dia. The shell cases have the NAZI eagle and swastika on the rim and are dated 1938. Gave me the WORST bruise!! the old rifles are great and cheap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bone 0 Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 i have an 8mm and i have to agree it pack a heck of a wallop but thats not the best part, i also have a .303 brit that my buddies father actually carried in wwII, he was brit infantry from canada, he passed away several years ago and we found the 8mm mauser in the closet. were not sure where it came from and hadnt reallly seen it before. makes us wish we spent more time talkin to the old boy about his time overseas. before he passed. we know he hasnt bought any guns since the early 70's but thats about it. alot of great history gone with a great man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tomme boy 0 Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 (edited) If you guys want to save yourself some $ and not want to deal with a dealer and get these at cost, why don't you get your C&R liscence. If you can pass the regular check to get a gun, you can get a C&R lisc. It cost $30 for 3 years. And the only other thing you would need to get is a bound book for the records. Plus, there are a lot of places that give you the dealer discount on things you buy from them. Midway, Brownells, Lee precission reloaders. Let me know and I can show you how to get it. Edited January 30, 2004 by tomme boy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DemonDesert 0 Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 Yeah, tomme boy, I'm interested. Sent you a PM. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 I see windex with ammonia, what about straight ammonia? Would that be too much? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 I see windex with ammonia, what about straight ammonia? Would that be too much to neutralize the salt? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DemonDesert 0 Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 I see windex with ammonia, what about straight ammonia? Would that be too much to neutralize the salt? That's a subject in which you will get as many answers as you get respondents. For the most part, salts are the leftovers, so to speak, from a reaction between an acid an a base. Some people swear by ammonia, but because ammonia is itself slightly caustic, I don't see where using it would be any better than a lot of other things in cleaning corrosive salts. In other words, there is nothing in ammonia that is going to react with the salt to make it dissolve. Probably nothing is better than warm water. But, I'm somewhat set in my ways, so I have taken to using warmed up Windex (or similar) as soon as I finish shooting anything that I suspect might be corrosive. Just my 2 cents worth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 Thanks for the quick response. So ammonia would work simply because it's a cleaner, not because it works against the salt. Hmm... Maybe diluted ammonia would work as to not be too caustic. Ammonia and warm water cleans just about anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NRAJOE 0 Posted April 25, 2004 Report Share Posted April 25, 2004 I have 4 Mosin's... 91/30 M38 M44 Laminate 91/59 I am not going to shoot surplus out of any off them...Gonna use WOLF just like I use in both of my AK's Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NRAJOE 0 Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 My 1938 Tula 91/59...these are drying up bigtime! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tengu 0 Posted June 29, 2004 Report Share Posted June 29, 2004 The water is what washes out the corrosive salts. The ammonia gets rid of copper fouling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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vjor 2 Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 I have two m-39 VKT they were expensive compare to the Russians but they are worth every penny you pay for one. Here are some links you can look at. they have finish nagants and some russians. http://www.gunsnammo.com/ Good work on bolts and decent prices. http://www.mosinnagant.net/Boltman/Boltman.html Triggers for nagant and mausers and other surplus rifles http://www.huberconcepts.com/ last but not list, if you want info on surplus rifles this is the place to start. http://www.surplusrifle.com/index.asp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jon elia 0 Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 i got an m44 and i've shot that heavy stuff and it doesn't kick anything like my mauser...its a pretty good gun Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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