USP40 1 Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 I just watched the Shooting USA Ft. Benning 3 guns Challance episode and saw a guy useing Saiga12 . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bean.223 365 Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 What show is this?? What channel?? lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HarvKY 72 Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 What show is this?? What channel?? lol It was on the Outdoor Channel. Thats #606 on our Direct TV satellite system. Sorry I didnt get to this earlier, their last replay was @ 2:ooam Eastern I believe. If you don't get Outdoor Channel, I highly recommend finding a way to do so. Every Wednesday night MidwayUSA sponsors a whole bunch of different gun shows. http://www.outdoorchannel.com/ProgramBlock...AtTheRange.aspx The Fort Benning 3gun Competition was on Shooting USA: http://www.shootingusa.com/TV_SCHEDULE/SHO...show_27-15.html They showed one competitor using a Saiga and interviewed the guy who was using the SAS12. He had fused two 6rd? clips into one 12rd for the competition [the clips were $800 each] Their followup show, Sighting In w/Shooting USA also covered some of the various weapons/accessories used in 3gun. Check out the brand new BORS computer programmed sight by Barrett. Once you download your bullet ballistics, then all you do is dial in the range and the scope calculates itself !! All you need is the wallet to pay for it http://www.shootingusa.com/SIGHTING_IN_SHO..._for_3_gun.html Cheers, HarvKY Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ronswin 26 Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 What show is this?? What channel?? lol It was on the Outdoor Channel. Thats #606 on our Direct TV satellite system. Sorry I didnt get to this earlier, their last replay was @ 2:ooam Eastern I believe. If you don't get Outdoor Channel, I highly recommend finding a way to do so. Every Wednesday night MidwayUSA sponsors a whole bunch of different gun shows. http://www.outdoorchannel.com/ProgramBlock...AtTheRange.aspx The Fort Benning 3gun Competition was on Shooting USA: http://www.shootingusa.com/TV_SCHEDULE/SHO...show_27-15.html They showed one competitor using a Saiga and interviewed the guy who was using the SAS12. He had fused two 6rd? clips into one 12rd for the competition [the clips were $800 each] Their followup show, Sighting In w/Shooting USA also covered some of the various weapons/accessories used in 3gun. Check out the brand new BORS computer programmed sight by Barrett. Once you download your bullet ballistics, then all you do is dial in the range and the scope calculates itself !! All you need is the wallet to pay for it http://www.shootingusa.com/SIGHTING_IN_SHO..._for_3_gun.html Cheers, HarvKY The Saiga-12 shooter may be our very own SinistralRifleman as he had videos on Youtube with those stages. I was right after Aldo Zitta on that stage with his Spas-12 shotgun and drooled a bit when he placed it out on the starting table. He is the owner/operator of ZM Weapons which produce a very high grade piston-operated AR-15 variant. The Ft. Benning 3-Gun was very challenging and fun. A previous thread was posted here: http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=21103 in the Competition section. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SinistralRifleman 0 Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 (edited) That was me...they showed me messing up the boat stage going too fast past the targets , getting out of the parachute harness on one of the stages, and interviewed me about Trooper Division. Video from the match: http://www.cavalryarms.com/vids/AMU-2007.wmv Edited March 21, 2008 by SinistralRifleman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SinistralRifleman 0 Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Ron, couple corrections, Zitta was using a SPAS-15, the SPAS-12 is the tube fed pump/auto. ZM weapons uppers aren't really pistons, the operating system just has the recoil spring forward to allow for the use of folding stocks, the bolt works the same way as regular AR AFAIK. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ronswin 26 Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Ron, couple corrections, Zitta was using a SPAS-15, the SPAS-12 is the tube fed pump/auto. ZM weapons uppers aren't really pistons, the operating system just has the recoil spring forward to allow for the use of folding stocks, the bolt works the same way as regular AR AFAIK. Sinistral, Your right! I am getting old when I call a SPAS-12 a SPAS-15 when I stared at Zitta's on the table for a good minute. I was (and still am) astounded when a shotgun as rare as that and the modified 12 round mags rountinely show up at a match. I had also assumed the ZM AR-15 was piston when I was told it has an op-rod as part of the system. Zitta and Jarrett were both using those rifles with very little trouble. This year we will not try and shoot the entire match on Friday like last year. We wound up having to shoot the remaining two stages on Saturday morning and bumping the "Dream Team" of Miculek and Jarrett on starting. Hope to see you there this December. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
USP40 1 Posted March 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 Sinistral , How did you do in the Match? They seem to make a big fuss about the Spas15 and didn't mention Saiga at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SinistralRifleman 0 Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 I was 3rd/7 In Trooper. Yes, people with tube feds beat me, but they are simply better shooters than me. Almost all the matches I have competed in Trooper, I have gotten 3rd place regardless of the number of people competing. http://www.cavalryarms.com/competition/trooperroster.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
USP40 1 Posted March 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 I was 3rd/7 In Trooper. Yes, people with tube feds beat me, but they are simply better shooters than me. Almost all the matches I have competed in Trooper, I have gotten 3rd place regardless of the number of people competing. http://www.cavalryarms.com/competition/trooperroster.html May I ask , The match at Ft. Benning did they use the same rules as IPSC ? You did well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OPENB 0 Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 Ft. Benning uses time plus scoring. A single A hit, or two anywhere, to neutralize a target. No power factors for major/minor. USPSA uses San Angelo scoring, two hits on paper targets, major/minor accounted for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
USP40 1 Posted March 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 Ft. Benning uses time plus scoring. A single A hit, or two anywhere, to neutralize a target. No power factors for major/minor. USPSA uses San Angelo scoring, two hits on paper targets, major/minor accounted for. Thanks OPENB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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