ae13291 3 Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 armsofamerica is a good place. andrew knows his stuff.he should be able to get one with dimples for you. Thank you for the lead. I just got another AR15 today and it will be a couple weeks before I can jump, but I'll call and see if I can talk to Andrew. he really hooked it up on the price too and the shipping was free. mine was perfect the way i wanted. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shootdamoon 0 Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Just received my new Saiga Monday from Peach State stamped Feb 2009 in the manual and has no dimples and is not threaded. It does have the PG hole. Don't know if it's stepped, most likely not. Completely disassemmbled ready for conversion. About 80% done. Most nerve racking part of the conversion so far was cutting the shroud off. Cut 5/8" off but going to redo and take the full 1" off all the way to the FSB. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sidewinder11 7 Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 I just ordered one today with dimples. Here's where I found it http://www.ddsranch.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=277_290_388&products_id=582 not a bad price either and 1 left in stock Enjoy! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tarheel72 16 Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 (edited) Got mine from Mississippi Auto Arms for $315 plus flat $25 shipping. Dimpled. Need to check for PG. How can you tell if the barrel is threaded? I can see a small gap between the barrel and the shroud. Otherwise I can't see anything. UPDATE: Mine is a March 2009, with dimples and PG hole. Still not sure about threaded barrel, but I might hold off on that anyway. Edited May 19, 2010 by Tarheel72 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ermac 8 Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 Are dimples that important? The milled recievers don't have them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 Are dimples that important? The milled recievers don't have them. Looks more military. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 Are dimples that important? The milled recievers don't have them. The milled receivers are an entirely different animal. They don't have magwell dimples... because they're milled receivers. However, stamped receiver Kalashnikov pattern rifles benefit from the dimples. They strengthen the receiver and stabilize magazines. They also look cool. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 Are dimples that important? The milled recievers don't have them. The milled receivers are an entirely different animal. They don't have magwell dimples... because they're milled receivers. However, stamped receiver Kalashnikov pattern rifles benefit from the dimples. They strengthen the receiver and stabilize magazines. They also look cool. Mostly right They're there to strengthen the receiver shell. Dimples've got nothing to do with magazine stability. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ermac 8 Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 Are dimples that important? The milled recievers don't have them. The milled receivers are an entirely different animal. They don't have magwell dimples... because they're milled receivers. However, stamped receiver Kalashnikov pattern rifles benefit from the dimples. They strengthen the receiver and stabilize magazines. They also look cool. It doesen't matter because they mechanicly lock up exactly the same. Strengthen, but I doubt stabalize. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ASSASSIN 1 Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 Hi all With regard to the hatched out box on the dimpled recievers over here in the U.K pretty much all the recievers i have seen are of the smoothe type and 90% of these have the hatched out box marking. There are some other Izzy made AKs over here but they are made to a lesser (in my opinnion) spec as they lack the military flash hider/compensator and instead have a sporter style non compensator and non threaded front sight post base. Some also have the horrible sporter plastic but thankfully most are of the standard military type spec. Same goes for the Tigr/Dragunov rifles over here. Some are 99% true dragunov with only the word Tigr stamped on the reciever but others lack the military stock and muzzle hardware and also only have the 300m hunting rear sight. assassin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Here are a couple pics that prove the oft repeated "magwell dimples don't contact and stabilize the magazine" is a lie. Judging from these wear marks, (and my experience), they absolutely do: 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Showing off an out-of-spec weapon doesn't show us anything. Just because it's "Arsenal of Bulgaria" doesn't mean it's perfect. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigsal 757 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 (edited) Showing off an out-of-spec weapon doesn't show us anything. Just because it's "Arsenal of Bulgaria" doesn't mean it's perfect. Aside from the fact you just got your ass handed to you on the dimples issue, if you look closely Post's rifle is a saiga, not from "arsenal of bulgaria". Stop trolling.... Edited October 19, 2010 by bigsal 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaiFanatic90 360 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Showing off an out-of-spec weapon doesn't show us anything. Just because it's "Arsenal of Bulgaria" doesn't mean it's perfect. Aside from the fact you just got your ass handed to you on the dimples issue, if you look closely Posts rifle is a saiga, not from "arsenal of bulgaria". Stop trolling.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 So it's an out-of-spec Saiga. They're not perfect either (as many can attest to) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 (edited) So it's an out-of-spec Saiga. They're not perfect either (as many can attest to) Right... because you couldn't possibly be wrong in your former (baseless) assertions, right, nalioth? Therefore, my rifle must be "out-of-spec". Where in the Izhevsk factory do you work again? Edited October 19, 2010 by post-apocalyptic 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaiFanatic90 360 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 So it's an out-of-spec Saiga. They're not perfect either (as many can attest to) Right... because you couldn't possibly be wrong in your former (baseless) assertions, right, nalioth? Therefore, my rifle must be "out-of-spec". Where in the Izhevsk factory do you work again? Get your "out-of-spec" saiga out of this thread!! It isn't worthy for it's internals to be shown here! You should be ashamed, P-A! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigsal 757 Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 (edited) Edited October 20, 2010 by bigsal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Klassy Kalashnikov 1,393 Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 (edited) My dimpled receiver x39 has no wear marks at all on the dimples. As far as I can tell, the dimples on mine do not contact the magazine. Like anything else on these guns, tolerances differ. One rifle's dimples may contact the magazine....one rifle's may not.... Edited October 20, 2010 by Classy Kalashnikov 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaiFanatic90 360 Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 My dimpled receiver x39 has no wear marks at all on the dimples. As far as I can tell, the dimples on mine do not contact the magazine. Like anything else on these guns, tolerances differ. One rifle's dimples may contact the magazine....one rifle's may not.... But Classy, clearly they must never contact the mag, or that would constitute an "out-of-spec" weapon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Klassy Kalashnikov 1,393 Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 My dimpled receiver x39 has no wear marks at all on the dimples. As far as I can tell, the dimples on mine do not contact the magazine. Like anything else on these guns, tolerances differ. One rifle's dimples may contact the magazine....one rifle's may not.... But Classy, clearly they must never contact the mag, or that would constitute an "out-of-spec" weapon Meh, Nalioth may be a little rough around the edges but he knows a ton about AKs, and Posty is little more than an Arsenal fanboy. He'll be more than happy to tell you why his rifle is better than yours because of dumb shit like roll crimps on the dust cover. Watching the two of them argue is like the unstoppable force vs. the immovable object 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaiFanatic90 360 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 My dimpled receiver x39 has no wear marks at all on the dimples. As far as I can tell, the dimples on mine do not contact the magazine. Like anything else on these guns, tolerances differ. One rifle's dimples may contact the magazine....one rifle's may not.... But Classy, clearly they must never contact the mag, or that would constitute an "out-of-spec" weapon Meh, Nalioth may be a little rough around the edges but he knows a ton about AKs, and Posty is little more than an Arsenal fanboy. He'll be more than happy to tell you why his rifle is better than yours because of dumb shit like roll crimps on the dust cover. Watching the two of them argue is like the unstoppable force vs. the immovable object Good late-night entertainment! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 (edited) My dimpled receiver x39 has no wear marks at all on the dimples. As far as I can tell, the dimples on mine do not contact the magazine. Like anything else on these guns, tolerances differ. One rifle's dimples may contact the magazine....one rifle's may not.... But Classy, clearly they must never contact the mag, or that would constitute an "out-of-spec" weapon Meh, Nalioth may be a little rough around the edges but he knows a ton about AKs, and Posty is little more than an Arsenal fanboy. He'll be more than happy to tell you why his rifle is better than yours because of dumb shit like roll crimps on the dust cover. Watching the two of them argue is like the unstoppable force vs. the immovable object "little more than an Arsenal fanboy", huh? Fuck you too, buddy. I don't know if either you or nalioth have ever handled or fired Legion Saigas, but I doubt it. That surely hasn't prevented you from having pretty strong opinions on em though, (from your position of ignorance), has it? You still don't seem to know that Arsenal does little more than import these and install compliance parts, (furniture, FCG, muzzle device). I'm no "Arsenal fanboy", if anything I'm an "AK-103 fanboy". I'd support any/all companies that managed to find a way to import new Russian firearms in nearly "intact", (mil-spec), condition. Arsenal's the only company out there that has the connections/contracts to do that right now, so I do support them as far as that goes and I don't have some illogical prejudice against them, (as nalioth obviously does). I've never said that my Saigas are "better" than anyone else's, I've merely pointed out the differences, (of which there are many). I won't deny that I'm proud of my rifle(s), but I try not to overdo the bragging, and I think I'm successful in that. You're one of the very few forum members who seems to have sand in his vagina on the subject. Get the fuck over it, would ya? It's not my fault you live in Joisey! Edited October 21, 2010 by post-apocalyptic 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Klassy Kalashnikov 1,393 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 My dimpled receiver x39 has no wear marks at all on the dimples. As far as I can tell, the dimples on mine do not contact the magazine. Like anything else on these guns, tolerances differ. One rifle's dimples may contact the magazine....one rifle's may not.... But Classy, clearly they must never contact the mag, or that would constitute an "out-of-spec" weapon Meh, Nalioth may be a little rough around the edges but he knows a ton about AKs, and Posty is little more than an Arsenal fanboy. He'll be more than happy to tell you why his rifle is better than yours because of dumb shit like roll crimps on the dust cover. Watching the two of them argue is like the unstoppable force vs. the immovable object "little more than an Arsenal fanboy", huh? Fuck you too, buddy. I don't know if either you or nalioth have ever handled or fired Legion Saigas, but I doubt it. That surely hasn't prevented you from having pretty strong opinions on em though, (from your position of ignorance), has it? You still don't seem to know that Arsenal does little more than import these and install compliance parts, (furniture, FCG, muzzle device). I'm no "Arsenal fanboy", if anything I'm a "AK-103 fanboy". I'd support any/all companies that managed to find a way to import new Russian firearms in nearly "intact", (mil-spec), condition. Arsenal's the only company out there that has the connections/contracts to do that right now, so I do support them as far as that goes and I don't have some illogical prejudice against them, (as nalioth obviously does). I've never said that my Saigas are "better" than anyone else's, I've merely pointed out the differences, (of which there are many). I won't deny that I'm proud of my rifle(s), but I try not to overdo the bragging, and I think I'm successful in that. You're one of the very few forum members who seems to have sand in his vagina on the subject. Get the fuck over it, would ya? It's not my fault you live in Joisey! First off, I could just as easily have whatever super-duper Legion rifle in NJ that I want. There are a couple companies that would be more than happy to alter one to comply with NJ's laws and send it to an FFL here. I have seen a few people online who have them. That said, I still wouldn't want one. Do you know why? You wanna know why I don't have any legion rifles? 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 I try not to overdo the bragging, and I think I'm successful in that. Try a little harder please. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaiFanatic90 360 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 People please, can't we just get along? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamTA1 0 Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 Figured I could show up my dimples and x and y, I don't really think I would care either way I'm just happy to have my Saiga and am looking forward to converting it. But hey it's pretty cool that it came this way. I have no idea how you all can tell if it's threaded though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Only one way to tell if its threaded... Cut the barrel sleeve off and cross your fingers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
corbin 621 Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 (edited) Mine's an 09 model too. Dimples, no step, threaded barrel and (possibly) PG hole. It was converted when I got it, so it's hard to say for sure. No cross hatching or Y stamp though. Still deciding if it'll have laminated wood, black, plum or a folder. Edited December 14, 2010 by Corbin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrGonZo 157 Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 (edited) So whats the difference between a Legion and a RAA Saiga? I bought a 7.62x39 from Arms of America and it is a dimpled Legion with PG hole already cut. I looked in the chamber and it does not appear to have the chamber step, but I haven't fired it yet to be sure. The rifle ranges where I live are only opened on weekends and I haven't had a weekend off for over 5 months... Another thing I noticed is that mine doesn't have a small cross hatched box on the left side of the receiver, it has a BIG cross hatched box just behind the safety lever. Anyone have any input on that? Edited January 11, 2011 by DrGonZo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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