alex e 5 Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Dimpled, X and Y stamps....non-threaded. Production date of 09-01-30. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 Dimpled, X and Y stamps....non-threaded. Production date of 09-01-30. They all have "X and Y stamps", man. Does yours have a second Y stamp? That's the one that (potentially) matters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike-4 0 Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 Dimpled, X and Y stamps....non-threaded. Production date of 09-01-30. They all have "X and Y stamps", man. Does yours have a second Y stamp? That's the one that (potentially) matters. What's the issue with the 2nd Y stamp? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stnls1911 55 Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 I think that is a question which can not be directly answered. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mammynun 14 Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Dimpled, X and Y stamps....non-threaded. Production date of 09-01-30. They all have "X and Y stamps", man. Does yours have a second Y stamp? That's the one that (potentially) matters. Mine is an 06; has all the X's and Y's, and is dimpled. Barrel was not threaded from the factory, but it is now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrance@iacwds.com 716 Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Dimpled, X and Y stamps....non-threaded. Production date of 09-01-30. They all have "X and Y stamps", man. Does yours have a second Y stamp? That's the one that (potentially) matters. What's the issue with the 2nd Y stamp? It will come to you automatically one day. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stnls1911 55 Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Mine is an 06; has all the X's and Y's, and is dimpled. Barrel was not threaded from the factory, but it is now. Very nice score It will come to you automatically one day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 Dimpled, X and Y stamps....non-threaded. Production date of 09-01-30. They all have "X and Y stamps", man. Does yours have a second Y stamp? That's the one that (potentially) matters. What's the issue with the 2nd Y stamp? Do ~5 min of research. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 (edited) Dimpled, X and Y stamps....non-threaded. Production date of 09-01-30. They all have "X and Y stamps", man. Does yours have a second Y stamp? That's the one that (potentially) matters. Mine is an 06; has all the X's and Y's, and is dimpled. Barrel was not threaded from the factory, but it is now. Very nice! That's the model I'd want to start with if I were to convert restore my own IZ-132. Since these were long gone by the time I got into Saigas, I just bought some SGL-21s during the '09 sale. No second Y, but almost everything else, (aside from factory folding stock and select fire), is GTG from a mil-spec perspective. Edited June 12, 2011 by post-apocalyptic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ripcuda 5 Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 Dimpled... 09 serial.... March 2011 acceptance paperwork (old stock recently imported?)... flat trunnion... no barrel step... PG hole... lovely Legion coverup... sweetness. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lone Eagle 839 Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 Dimpled, X and Y stamps....non-threaded. Production date of 09-01-30. They all have "X and Y stamps", man. Does yours have a second Y stamp? That's the one that (potentially) matters. What's the issue with the 2nd Y stamp? Short answer: Second Y stamp can earn you some bad memories of Bubba at Club Fed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beefcakeb99 572 Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 Dimpled, X and Y stamps....non-threaded. Production date of 09-01-30. They all have "X and Y stamps", man. Does yours have a second Y stamp? That's the one that (potentially) matters. What's the issue with the 2nd Y stamp? Short answer: Second Y stamp can earn you some bad memories of Bubba at Club Fed. Wrong. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adjc 171 Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 does anyone know if the 7.62's are all dimpled now? looking to add one more but can't find them local, has to be internet sales so viewing b4 purchasing is out of the question. anybody know? TIA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lone Eagle 839 Posted August 20, 2011 Report Share Posted August 20, 2011 Dimpled, X and Y stamps....non-threaded. Production date of 09-01-30. They all have "X and Y stamps", man. Does yours have a second Y stamp? That's the one that (potentially) matters. What's the issue with the 2nd Y stamp? Short answer: Second Y stamp can earn you some bad memories of Bubba at Club Fed. Wrong. Nope. It's what you do with the extra "Y" stamp that lands you in hot water without the proper paperwork. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keith524 25 Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 whats a chamber step?? Interesting how much variation is showing up in dimples, pistol grip holes and chamber steps. I knew nothing of any of that when ordering my Saiga Sporter, 2009. By chance, and luck, mine arrived with dimples, PG hole and NO chamber step. Plain old "luck of the draw" - If I had known in advance, I would have asked questions before delivery. It seems that none of the three items are a big deal, except for possibly the chamber step where reloading might be affected. sailor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stnls1911 55 Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 whats a chamber step?? http://forum.saiga-1...post__p__473024 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keith524 25 Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 haha thats funny..yeah i think i got the same one as urs the other day.. its a april 30 09 carbine w the 16 in barrel.. i love it.. still dont know much about it yet thought.. u said urs had some of the features what features are u talking about? Thanks. Check page 1 post #10. You'll see what is referred to as the "Y stamp", this indicates, a full auto receiver. Its where the 3rd axis pin would go if there were a hole in that "Y". Thanks. saw that after I posted. I guess I have some of the mil features, but not all 5..interesting, these Saigas...they're like a box of chocolates, "ya never know what yer gonna get"... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saigabob 4 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 Picked up my saiga a few weeks ago. Has the dimpled receiver. Haven't checked out anything else yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Indsk8 0 Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 my o9 saiga has a realy big cross hatch rectangle right in front of the right side of the butt stock on the reciever. what is this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob0126 1 Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Dimpled... 09 serial.... March 2011 acceptance paperwork (old stock recently imported?)... flat trunnion... no barrel step... PG hole... lovely Legion coverup... sweetness. I hope the one I ordered will have no stepped barrel. I do know it has the dimples though, from what they told me. Will post once it gets here next week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
woodyp 2 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 just got a dimpled 2009 one, all but positive I have a PG hole.... will be sure when I yank this trigger out of it You don't have to do anything more than remove the receiver cover and take a look inside to determine if you've got your pg hole. It's the square one between the "sporter" trigger slot near the rear of the receiver and the notched hole for the proper AK triggergroup. You probably have it already machined into the receiver by the factory. If not, it's hardly the end of the world. I was very apprehensive about cutting my own pg hole in my Saiga-12 receiver, (for some reason Ivan doesn't bother machining this hole into "sporter" Saiga shotgun receivers), but it wasn't that bad. Just measure 10x cause you can only cut once. If it's in the correct location and has the correct general dimensions, it'll work, even if the corners are a bit ragged, (like mine). Black spraypaint and the pistol grip itself cover a multitude of sins. Mine is 2009, dimpled. Is the PG hole kinda square looking and located directly under the wishbone linkage thingy? If so, looks like mine has it and just covered by the trigger/handguard plate on the bottom. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TJohn 8 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Mine is 2009, dimpled. Is the PG hole kinda square looking and located directly under the wishbone linkage thingy? If so, looks like mine has it and just covered by the trigger/handguard plate on the bottom. That sounds right, you should be good to go, my two 2009 dimpled 7.62's had the PG hole. You should be able to see it just looking down into the receiver. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
woodyp 2 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Thanks TJohn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bbgun 0 Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 This may be old news,any one looking for dimpled receivers & non stepped chambers can check out classic arms.Got mine saturday,has already been converted 922 complaint 449.99.tapco trigger is really nice,tapco a.k. stock & pistol grip.good shooter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rocketfoot 29 Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 I'm feeling a little left out as my 04 does not have dimples! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
im_n2_vws 28 Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 (edited) I just bought an arsenal Saiga today where are the x and y stamps? Are they the dimples around the pins on the receiver? If so, my 2011 arsenal AK has them, my 2011 Legion Saiga-12 doesn't, but my 1993 EAA Saiga.410 does? Edited March 18, 2012 by im_n2_vws Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Loud Noises 5 Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 I just picked up my second 7.62x39... and my first since I knew very much about these rifles. I ordered from Buds and requested a dimpled receiver if they had one. I ended up with dimples, "match striker" or velcro etching on right rear of receiver, no chamber step and what looks to possibly be a threaded barrel. I will be converting it but hadn't planned to mess with the front end. Maybe I'll change my mind. March 2009 manufacture, but also indicated in my paperwork is that "Reconservation of the product was made 2012.01.16." I'm guessing old stock, reimported. I'm excited about the dimples and no chamber step and will be converting this one first, before my plain old '06 model with all standard sporter features. I have the faux-converted T-6 stock set on my '06 but now have the courage to convert, thanks for all the info you folks provide here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brandon402 86 Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 I was looking through this thread yesterday thinking, "man... those dimpled ones look sweet.... wish mine was... " and guess what? LoL, just realized I do have a dimpled one... Please dont judge the stockness of it, need to do a few more things to make it look purdy... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 I won't judge you for having a "starter" Saiga, brandon402, but I will for not realizing that yours has had a proper dimpled receiver all along. *slap* Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brandon402 86 Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 (edited) lol.... slap received and understood.... But imagine my elation at realizing that I had one though, haha. Couple more months and it wont be so "starter" lookin. If the dog gone wife's jeep didnt need tires, this thing would be purdier faster... Edited May 7, 2012 by brandon402 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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