D.ID 0 Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 Howdy, Trying to locate a kalashnikov based 9x19 .........I see redjacket reference but no listings.....I know I saw these a while back somewhere..... of course some one will inevitably ask WHY so........... Bought a full auto m11 and a tac-ord/gemtech raptor a few years back, sold the m11 and bought a pos mp5, fixed it-sold it, have had uzi cb/feather at/mp5/etc etc etc and would love to find a 9 CARBINE that actually works reliably........just to be complicated I am looking for a stick mag version (no drum) If any one has sean anything on the market I would sure appreciate a heads up, Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
terrace_mountain 0 Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 I seriously doubt you'll find an AKM chambered in 9mm luger. The AKM is an assault rifle, not an SMG. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 (edited) The OP didn't ask about an AKM in 9mm... The 9mm Bison submachine gun. A pair of home project built 9mm AKs. These use surplus Suomi magazines. This is most likely your best option for a 9mm Kalashnikov in the USA at this time. ....and let's not forget the prototype 9mm krinkov type Kalashnikov just shown to us last year . . . Edited April 22, 2008 by nalioth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Twinsen 86 Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 If I had the 9mm Krink or a Bizon, I'd shoot more 9mm than anything else. I haven't seen either for sale in this country or even heard it mentioned that they were. Too bad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uzitiger 193 Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 Israel Weapons Industries made a .30 cal rifle which was AK (or Galil) based for urban areas where a .223 round would overpenetrate. It used .30 Carbine magazines. That round wasn't much larger than a 9mm Luger round. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VanKiller 322 Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 Ahhhhhh, So many projects and so little time. When I asked , it seemed more people were interested in the 45 ACP, than were interested in the 9mm. I'm keeping the Bizon in mind, but I have the 45 cal barrels in my desk already. . .The challenge seems to be using a Glock mag, but not getting into a patent infringement situation with Glock, ( I think I'd lose that fight)......~~VK~~ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MD_Willington 11 Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 The IMI Magal is a .30 carbine varient HCpookie is working on a 9x39 9x23 would make an interesting carbine too, that is a .38 super without the rim. 9x19 AKM = time + money + krink parts kit + someone that knows what they are doing = cool carbine.. LOL I've posted before, if they offered the Knight as a 16" carbine here in the states I'd make sure I owned one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vultite 57 Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 9MM carbine that works = RRA or COLT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jhereg 0 Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 (edited) Ahhhhhh, So many projects and so little time. When I asked , it seemed more people were interested in the 45 ACP, than were interested in the 9mm. I'm keeping the Bizon in mind, but I have the 45 cal barrels in my desk already. . .The challenge seems to be using a Glock mag, but not getting into a patent infringement situation with Glock, ( I think I'd lose that fight)......~~VK~~ If you're going that route, why not pick an inexpensive subgun mag? I know I like the idea of using mags I have, but I'd like it even more if I could buy high cap mags for $10 or $20 (or less) & have all I want cheap. Edited April 22, 2008 by jhereg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6500rpm 670 Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 (edited) This was another pretty slick home brew by a guy posting under Azhonkey. Used a quick change Uzi barrel and PPSH mags. FA could be a problem unless you have the required paper. This one was set up as a blow back semi in 9mm and 7.62x25. He's done a few, but this one was the cats ass in my book, The kit's for the Sumoi drums look like an interesting build too. Edited April 23, 2008 by 6500rpm 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
D.ID 0 Posted April 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Thats a negative on the AR platform (not if I can help it)...........Are these fine examples displayed above all custom built? Nobody is trying to market them for retail? That krinkov looks about perfect.... even tho I have zero chance of acquiring a bison, does anyone here know if the drum is as noisy as my beloved 7.62 drums? 45 would be good but that would mean I still had an extra 9 suppressor and would have to buy yet another 45 suppressor witch would really be traumatic but I mean if your twisting my arm what choice do I have ........ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmax4x4 68 Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Thats a negative on the AR platform (not if I can help it)...........Are these fine examples displayed above all custom built? Nobody is trying to market them for retail? That krinkov looks about perfect.... even tho I have zero chance of acquiring a bison, does anyone here know if the drum is as noisy as my beloved 7.62 drums? 45 would be good but that would mean I still had an extra 9 suppressor and would have to buy yet another 45 suppressor witch would really be traumatic but I mean if your twisting my arm what choice do I have ........ 14011 Florida Blvd 102 Baton Rouge, LA 70819 Phone: (225) 448-3167 Fax: (225) 448-3169 Don't know if he has one but he has done AK for a long time and should be able to build damn near any thing if it is legal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Twinsen 86 Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Ahhhhhh, So many projects and so little time. When I asked , it seemed more people were interested in the 45 ACP, than were interested in the 9mm. I'm keeping the Bizon in mind, but I have the 45 cal barrels in my desk already. . .The challenge seems to be using a Glock mag, but not getting into a patent infringement situation with Glock, ( I think I'd lose that fight)......~~VK~~ Both good options in caliber. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uzitiger 193 Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 This was another pretty slick home brew by a guy posting under Azhonkey. Used a quick change Uzi barrel and PPSH mags. FA could be a problem unless you have the required paper. This one was set up as a blow back semi in 9mm and 7.62x25. He's done a few, but this one was the cats ass in my book, The kit's for the Sumoi drums look like an interesting build too. That's a nice conversion using PPSh magazines. With the price of ammo the 9mm Luger ammo is one of the least expensive and with a stronger recoil spring one could use the submachine gun ammo which is a lot hotter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Surly 11 Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 If you really want one, you're going to have to build it yourself. I'm in the middle of doing one now and it's a little more involved than riveting together an AK. Once she's done, it'll be worth it to me. Mine will be using the Suomi drums and I have a few coffin mags it'll be using as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Krinkovliu 0 Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 I have been thinking about this type of firearm for several years. What I know is the following: 1) Atlantic Firearms was thinking about manufacturing a 9mm AK but dropped the project because none of their prototypes were reliable. 2) Red Stick quoted me a price of $650 for a 9mm build. They said that it involved a lot more work than a typical AK build. Also, I would have find a reasonably priced 9mm barrel (probably an UZI semi) that was at least 16 inches long. I have all of the specialized mag well parts. One probably has to build it yourself. If you find a source please let me know - my 11th AK needs to be in 9mm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MD_Willington 11 Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 another route is a 7.62x25... they are slick too! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 $650 for a 9mm AK build????? Will's going to lose his ass............ Tony 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 2) Red Stick quoted me a price of $650 for a 9mm build. That's with him supplying everything? As in, you give him $650, and he gives you a "ready-to-shoot" 9mm AK? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6500rpm 670 Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 I'm collecting parts for a 2XTM build and figure it's going to cost roughly $500-600 to build myself using a Tantal kit as a base. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whatmanual 44 Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 (edited) I'll bring it up with Will next weekend at the bash. Heading there with Redbear. I would think he meant that's the labor cost. ~S Edited June 12, 2008 by whatmanual Quote Link to post Share on other sites
U.S. Pratorean 1,234 Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 The OP didn't ask about an AKM in 9mm... The 9mm Bison submachine gun. A pair of home project built 9mm AKs. These use surplus Suomi magazines. This is most likely your best option for a 9mm Kalashnikov in the USA at this time. ....and let's not forget the prototype 9mm krinkov type Kalashnikov just shown to us last year . . . Wow, those 9's with the Suomi drums are stellar. Would love that one with the sand furniture.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 I'll bring it up with Will next weekend at the bash. Heading there with Redbear.I would think he meant that's the labor cost. ~S OK, that price being the labor sounds more likely. Post back after you talk to Will. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrance@iacwds.com 716 Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 $650 for a 9mm AK build????? Will's going to lose his ass............ Tony Stop saying that Tony! You're gonna mess up my ride. 1911 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Krinkovliu 0 Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 (edited) Guys: the $650 is just the labor cost. You still have to supply an AK kit, receiver, 9 mm barrel, AK74 bolt face, 922r complaiance parts, and special magwell. Something like $450 - $550 in parts. Edited July 1, 2008 by Krinkovliu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigj480 203 Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Guys: the $650 is just the labor cost. You still have to supply an AK kit, receiver, 9 mm barrel, AK74 bolt face, 922r complaiance parts, and special magwell. Something like $450 - $550 in parts. Yep, it's still a bargain. How much does labor typically add to an s-12 build? I would imagine that the 9mm builds are a little more difficult. I would be interested if I had the extra dough, just for the hell of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bigfunkytown 0 Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 me want one now, but can I get it in 9x18mm? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SOPMOD 254 Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 (edited) Who in the hell built this thing and what kind of grip is that? Edited September 29, 2008 by SOPMOD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 Who in the hell built this thing and what kind of grip is that? Current Izhmash production. Current Izhmash pistol grip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AgentLQ 3 Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 How can I get my hands on that pistol grip? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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