cpileri 0 Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Does 922-r and all the '10-or-less' parts rules apply to 30-06 rifles, in particular the Saiga 30-06, or only to non-importable, "unsporting" rifles? Asked another way; can a Saiag 30-06 evenbe considered "non sproting" by definition? Reason I ask is because in order to be an assault rifle, the cartridge case length must be 2.25 inches or less ("...Rifles chambered to accept a centerfire cartridge case having a length of 2.25 inches or less (includes .223 and 7.62 X 39); and...") where a 30-06 has a case length of 2.494 inches (and an Cartridge AOL of 3.34 in, FWIW), which is of course longer than 2.25 inches. Please school me on the intricacies of this part of 922-r; as i can find no reference specifically on it. If the S-30-06 is "sporting" by definition, then can a conversion, a la Tromix- so far the only one known, be done with no regard to final parts count? Thx, C- Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LKB3rd 0 Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Does 922-r and all the '10-or-less' parts rules apply to 30-06 rifles, in particular the Saiga 30-06, or only to non-importable, "unsporting" rifles? Asked another way; can a Saiag 30-06 evenbe considered "non sproting" by definition? Reason I ask is because in order to be an assault rifle, the cartridge case length must be 2.25 inches or less ("...Rifles chambered to accept a centerfire cartridge case having a length of 2.25 inches or less (includes .223 and 7.62 X 39); and...") where a 30-06 has a case length of 2.494 inches (and an Cartridge AOL of 3.34 in, FWIW), which is of course longer than 2.25 inches. Please school me on the intricacies of this part of 922-r; as i can find no reference specifically on it. If the S-30-06 is "sporting" by definition, then can a conversion, a la Tromix- so far the only one known, be done with no regard to final parts count? Thx, C- $.02...not a lawyer.. etc Is the case length section in 922R? if it is, then it might mean it doesn't apply. If it is a law from somewhere else, then I think you'd have to follow the definition of "assault wepon" in 922r terms. On the other hand, it is very easy to convert, and if you use the commonly available us made parts for it, you'll hit 922r compliance very quickly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaNoobie 66 Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 The 30-06 rifle is not easy to convert. Only 1 has been converted and that was by Tony himself. But to answer your question without answering, It's just easier to buy some USA parts than to worry about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MD_Willington 11 Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Applies to all center fire semi auto... Now if they made a .22LR Saiga then hey go to town or If they would ever import the straight pull bolt model you can get in Europe then you can go to town on that too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Applies to all center fire semi auto... Now if they made a .22LR Saiga then hey go to town or If they would ever import the straight pull bolt model you can get in Europe then you can go to town on that too +1 if its got an import tax stamp under semi automatic firearm, then 922r applies. rifles ten rounds, shotguns 5 rounds, etc. technically, this topic should be in the 922/the LAW section of the tech section. no biggie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MD_Willington 11 Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 So can you get us the straight pull version?? one of the .220 swift (5.56x39) would be unique! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ozone_00 3 Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 The 30-06 rifle is not easy to convert. Only 1 has been converted and that was by Tony himself. But to answer your question without answering, It's just easier to buy some USA parts than to worry about it. sorry for hijacking the tread, but i'm looking for a pic of tony's 30-06 conversion. Anyone have a link to the thread? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 You guys are missing the point to 922r. 922r only kicks in if you use 11+ capacity mags in it (as this makes it unsporting). Until you stick an 11+ round mag in it, you can pretty much do what you want with it. When I last looked, there weren't that many 30.06 Saigas in the country, much less 11+ round magazines for it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 3006 thread link Quote Link to post Share on other sites
superA 289 Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 3006 thread link Do I need to go 922 compliant if I don't plan on sticking a muzzle device or pistol grip on it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WardenWolf 6 Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 An unmodified Saiga 30-06 or a Saiga in any of the stock imported configurations does not have to comply with 922® because it is approved for import according to the guidelines of 925. If you change that configuration by adding a high-capacity magazine or any features that would render it non-sporting and not legal for import as assembled, it must comply. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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