THE_HUNTER 2 Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 OK,this is the buck and ball load. Has anyone played with these yet?I bought a box but won't be out shooting unfortunately for a long time.On looks, it appears the crimp may malform pretty easy as a top round in a S-12 mag but other than that I know nothing of these.Got them for $16 a box, probably over paid since the place I got them for is known for that, like 7.62X39 Barnaul ammo for $10 a box!Figured if i had ordered them i would have had shipping costs anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmax4x4 68 Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 It sells for 10.80 to 12.00 10 box. I love it, I haven't seen it in ballistics gel put would like to. The same ball and buck sells in a 3 pack as specialty ammo in a lot of magazine for 15.00 and up. But it shot in my saiga fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
usptac 0 Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 What the hell? I bought 250 rounds of this stuff for about $180 1-1/2 years ago. Overpriced, and they were a tight fit in my 1st gen AGP 10 rounders (a little more sanding will remedy this). They aren't worth the exorbitant prices you just quoted though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmax4x4 68 Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 I don't think he wanted to buy a case right off the bat. Ammo is cheaper in bulk every one knows. 10.-12.is one box price at least that is what I have seen it run. I don't know if I have put it in GEN1 mag but I had no problems with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE_HUNTER 2 Posted June 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Seems to fit fine in my AGP 1st gen. mags thankfully. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
biskitz 24 Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 I bought 20 rounds or so of this stuff this winter. It cycles well in the saiga, little more recoil than standard loads. Pattern at 25 yards was VERY tight. Good for my home defense round. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE_HUNTER 2 Posted June 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 What choke did you use? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
biskitz 24 Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 (edited) What choke did you use? No choke, Just cylinder bore w/ thread protector. and when I say very tight at 25 yrds I mean about 6". Edited June 4, 2008 by biskitz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE_HUNTER 2 Posted June 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 That's awesome! I am looking for results like that.Does the main large ball shoot accurately on point of aim (like a slug) with the buckshot patterning around well? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE_HUNTER 2 Posted June 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 (edited) Well I got out crow hunting today and brought out 3 of them to try. At 25 yards, they indeed group really tight and hit maybe a couple inches lower than regular slugs. I shot through a 12" dead dried tree and the pumpkin ball ended up almost going all the way through the tree. I was able to get it out of a splinter on the other side. Hard alloy lead for sure! Two of the buckshot pellets followed the pumpkin ball through and smashed into it, flattening the buckshot but the pumpkin ball still looks as if it never has been fired! Amazing! I shot then at 15 yards and blew the center out of the target as everything minus the wad went through one ragged hole! Now I want more............. Edited June 6, 2008 by THE_HUNTER Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE_HUNTER 2 Posted July 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 (edited) Today I finally got out to the gun club to try more rounds in 3 different shotguns. Shotguns were S-12 with no choke, Remington 870 with modified choke, and a High Standard Bullpup with no choke. The no choke shotguns grouped really tight at 25 yards and shot about a foot high, so in my guestimation at 50 yards it would be dead on. The Remington with the modified choke opened things up a bit but still deadly. If I get out for coyote or zombies, this is my choice for sure! Chance on kills at 100 yards! Who woulda thunk it! Note this is my other S-12 without the Polychoke. The Polychoke one was used earlier in postings. Edited July 15, 2008 by THE_HUNTER Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saiga Rocks 0 Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 I do not have a S12 yet, but I like it and want more info. I shot one that was 10shot mag fed in 12g, with a screw on choke (weird, it screwed on the outside! This thing was really heavy duty and shot anything from 20cent birdshot to slugs and buck-n-ball loads. Have you tried Dixie Slugs brand Tri Ball loads? They sell 3" magnum hunting loads with 3 66cal balls each, and they are made to kill hogs. They work well in Rem 870s and Moss 500/835 even with turkey chokes. I have been wondering about the Centurion Buck n Ball loads. I wanted some but didn't know if they were quality or not. Do you like them still? Would you recommend to buy for a defense gun? Today I finally got out to the gun club to try more rounds in 3 different shotguns. Shotguns were S-12 with no choke, Remington 870 with modified choke, and a High Standard Bullpup with no choke. The no choke shotguns grouped really tight at 25 yards and shot about a foot high, so in my guestimation at 50 yards it would be dead on. The Remington with the modified choke opened things up a bit but still deadly. If I get out for coyote or zombies, this is my choice for sure! Chance on kills at 100 yards! Who woulda thunk it!Note this is my other S-12 without the Polychoke. The Polychoke one was used earlier in postings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
COS 0 Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Been wanting to try these myself... One question will these work with the MD20... Are they a true 2 3/4 round or are the rolled crimped so they will not fit in the drum?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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