akclan33 0 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 (edited) http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.p...highlight=tapco HAVE FUN!! Come on dudes make one for your SAIGA 12 you"ll love it! Let me know how it goes Hers the prototype version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rIVfmjkvW4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMG_bzF0UXk Edited June 8, 2008 by jon36 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bayoupiper 738 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 No offense, but isn't bumping something you outgrow? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Superhawk138 202 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Cool but doesn't help are case with gun laws. I hope they don't call it a "shoestring" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Cool but doesn't help are case with gun laws. I hope they don't call it a "shoestring"...or an Akins Accelerator ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 I feel bad for the blobman... he cant get the "gas tube cover" off... just doesnt see how... :unsure: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akclan33 0 Posted June 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 No offense, but isn't bumping something you outgrow? Hell no, if you could do it you would not want to stop, its a total rush,it almost like the real thing .Not many people can do this from the shoulder,the ones ive been around. your only shooting one bullet at a time it works off recoil, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akclan33 0 Posted June 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Cool but doesn't help are case with gun laws. I hope they don't call it a "shoestring" Its all off recoil ,nothing has been altered in the rifle itself ,thats a big no no there! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 No offense, but isn't bumping something you outgrow? Outgrow bumping? Oh C'mon Will! How old were you when you stopped masturbating??....oops!...nevermind! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akclan33 0 Posted June 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 (edited) No offense, but isn't bumping something you outgrow? Outgrow bumping? Oh C'mon Will! How old were you when you stopped masturbating??....oops!...nevermind! Edited June 8, 2008 by jon36 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Cool but doesn't help are case with gun laws. I hope they don't call it a "shoestring" Its all off recoil ,nothing has been altered in the rifle itself ,thats a big no no there! Y'all google "Akins Accelerator". It was a stock just like this one for the Ruger 10/22. Nothing on the rifle was modified, it was all done with the special spring loaded stock. The alphabet boys declared it a machine gun and confiscated all that were sold. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akclan33 0 Posted June 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Cool but doesn't help are case with gun laws. I hope they don't call it a "shoestring" Its all off recoil ,nothing has been altered in the rifle itself ,thats a big no no there! Y'all google "Akins Accelerator". It was a stock just like this one for the Ruger 10/22. Nothing on the rifle was modified, it was all done with the special spring loaded stock. The alphabet boys declared it a machine gun and confiscated all that were sold. So what about the tac-trigger and rubber band technique,gat trigger, hellstorm? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John_pro2a 3 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Cool but doesn't help are case with gun laws. I hope they don't call it a "shoestring" Its all off recoil ,nothing has been altered in the rifle itself ,thats a big no no there! Y'all google "Akins Accelerator". It was a stock just like this one for the Ruger 10/22. Nothing on the rifle was modified, it was all done with the special spring loaded stock. The alphabet boys declared it a machine gun and confiscated all that were sold. Wrong, it's totally different. Atkins = reciever moving within the stock This mod = stock collapsing under recoil. If they ban this mod, they must also ban Knox Stocks... but Knox is WELL established. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John_pro2a 3 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 No offense, but isn't bumping something you outgrow? Outgrow bumping? Oh C'mon Will! How old were you when you stopped masturbating??....oops!...nevermind! Hey I still jerkoff when my girlfreinds not around to get me off ,Ill admit it, whats wrong with bump firing , bumpfiring from the waist anyone can do but i challenge you to try it from the shoulder,there is a technique behind it http://www.poormansmachinegun.com/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Superhawk138 202 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Im not saying that its not fun as hell to dump a mag like that, Hell I bumped my S-12 a few times today, but the principal is just about the same as the Atkins. Both actions are on a spring loaded mechanism. Soon you will see bumpfiring "assistants" banned as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigj480 203 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 I believe that the reason the BATF came down on the Akins Accelerator is because there was a rest for your finger that put it in the perfect spot and held it there. It made bump firing no longer a skill or a technique. Do I think they were right? Definitely not, it was still one bullet per trigger pull, but I don't make the rules and the BATF doesn't follow them anyway. Now, on to the link.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 I just love it when someone starts a thread, and then goes back and edits out the main body of the first post.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akclan33 0 Posted June 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 I just love it when someone starts a thread, and then goes back and edits out the main body of the first post.... sorry dude, i think some people were pissed at what i had to offer,so screw it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 (edited) I just love it when someone starts a thread, and then goes back and edits out the main body of the first post.... sorry dude, i think some people were pissed at what i had to offer,so screw it Not at all, just comparing it to a well known product that had a short legal lifespan. I think it's cool, actually. Something a Crapco T6 buttstock is actually good for. I also think that if you take your nice springy-stock and have it on your .223 or 7.62x39 Saiga and "have it run almost like the real thing", in front of the wrong people, the fecal matter will be hittin' the oscillation.... ( sad, but true ) Edited June 8, 2008 by nalioth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waltham_41 52 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 I would like to bump fire a mag or drum one time. Have never tried it on any weapon, and the S12 shotty would be the most fun I think Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vultite 57 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 well, its easier to have an assist to bump fire, but u can get a techique down with just your finger, shoulder bump firing is pretty accurate as long as your gun and yourself are up to par.....and who outgrows its? its like outgrowing sex or breathing.....just doesn't happen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Hey, if anything, it would make a damned fine recoil reducer. <wink> Quote Link to post Share on other sites
akclan33 0 Posted June 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 I just love it when someone starts a thread, and then goes back and edits out the main body of the first post.... sorry dude, i think some people were pissed at what i had to offer,so screw it Not at all, just comparing it to a well known product that had a short legal lifespan. I think it's cool, actually. Something a Crapco T6 buttstock is actually good for. I also think that if you take your nice springy-stock and have it on your .223 or 7.62x39 Saiga and "have it run almost like the real thing", in front of the wrong people, the fecal matter will be hittin' the oscillation.... ( sad, but true ) Ive done it in front of the STATE POLICE,couple of NATIONAL Guard dudes at the shooting range and my sisters boyfreind is a cop he has seen it too,nobody really says anything Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nicklebon 27 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 I just love it when someone starts a thread, and then goes back and edits out the main body of the first post.... sorry dude, i think some people were pissed at what i had to offer,so screw it Given a large enough population some people will always be pissed about anything. Doesn't mean you have to compromise your position. You offered information some people liked it others didn't. You could offer free gold ingots to everyone at work and after 3 or so days someone would complain that they were: 1. too heavy 2. too hard to sell 3. Not <insert other valuable item here> In short .... fug em Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bayoupiper 738 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Outgrow bumping? Oh C'mon Will! How old were you when you stopped masturbating??....oops!...nevermind! I have a wife and a girlfriend for that! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Franky 2 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Thanx jon. Anything to make my saiga funner is OK w/me. But I don't need to know about your self satisfying habits - WAY TOO MUCH information. FMJ. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 I am not trying to crap on your idea either, but it is similar to several products that have already been banned. Being established has little to do with it, look up the open bolt Mac 10, Street Sweeper and the Spitfire Carbine for reference if the ones already quoted don't convince you. They all had an advantage that your idea does not, they had all been previously approved by the BATF. I am sorry, but I think that this entire thread should be round filed. Besides, speaking from experience, the only folks that think that these schemes are as much fun as the real thing, have never tried the real thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Franky 2 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 I am not trying to crap on your idea either, but it is similar to several products that have already been banned. Being established has little to do with it, look up the open bolt Mac 10, Street Sweeper and the Spitfire Carbine for reference if the ones already quoted don't convince you. They all had an advantage that your idea does not, they had all been previously approved by the BATF. I am sorry, but I think that this entire thread should be round filed. Besides, speaking from experience, the only folks that think that these schemes are as much fun as the real thing, have never tried the real thing. For those that can't afford "The Real Thing". I think it's a great idea. FMJ. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Koliadko 207 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Outgrow bumping? Oh C'mon Will! How old were you when you stopped masturbating??....oops!...nevermind! I have a wife and a girlfriend for that! HUH? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HogBlaster 0 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Cool but doesn't help are case with gun laws. I hope they don't call it a "shoestring" Its all off recoil ,nothing has been altered in the rifle itself ,thats a big no no there! Y'all google "Akins Accelerator". It was a stock just like this one for the Ruger 10/22. Nothing on the rifle was modified, it was all done with the special spring loaded stock. The alphabet boys declared it a machine gun and confiscated all that were sold. I almost got caught up in that,I was a beta tester for the akins accelerator 1 week before the ruling i was offered a outragous sum of money for mine... I sold it, Glad I did!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigj480 203 Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 There are several spring loaded products similar to this that are sold as a recoil absorbers. I don't see a legal problem with this mod at all. I mean, it serves more than one purpose. They might as well ban the Enidine recoil absorbers, Knoxx stocks and recoil pads because they give a little and might make bump-firing easier. Bump-firing is legal as long as it takes skill to do so. The Akins Accelerator was ruled a machine gun because it had a finger rest and a grip that stayed stationary and made bump firing so simple that it no longer required skill. After watching the poormansmachinegun.com videos, I would consider bump firing. Will it be the same as owning a true FA? Of coarse not, but I also could save $7-$14K and still be fairly accurate. I have a "cheap" SMG but that is the only FA that I think that I will ever own, the gun + ammo is too expensive! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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