hepcat85 0 Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 (edited) Hello all, I'm curious how this unit compares to the Krebs and the Gilberts top rail. It looks low profile and would be good for an EoTech. Anyone have one? Any opinions? Thanks in advance. Hep Edited July 17, 2008 by hepcat85 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6500rpm 670 Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 I can tell you that the one from Krebs and from DPH are made to replace the rear leaf sight and anchor at the rear tang. The on pictured is just a receiver cover and may tend not to hold zero with optics mounted to the picatinny rail, I don't think it would effect the HK sight as much (purely speculation on my part). Your also going to remove your rear AK sight with the one pictured and it might look a bit funky. I have one of the DPH mounts that I've swapped around on a few guns that don't have a side rail mount and I'd give it an average to above average rating FWIW. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frankd4 1 Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 No mater what you put on top of that it will nevr hold zero, I have look at and tried all sorts of rails that go on the top cover I have found out the hard way it just not work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 No mater what you put on top of that it will nevr hold zero, I have look at and tried all sorts of rails that go on the top cover I have found out the hard way it just not work.What he means is: the iron sights work decently on the dust covers, but the covers are too flimsy to support a red dot or other optic and keep a zero. Also "Blackthorne" is another name for a very shoddy company that changes its name on a yearly basis so it can keep pushing crap on to the unknowing. Caveat Emptor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hepcat85 0 Posted July 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 No mater what you put on top of that it will nevr hold zero, I have look at and tried all sorts of rails that go on the top cover I have found out the hard way it just not work.What he means is: the iron sights work decently on the dust covers, but the covers are too flimsy to support a red dot or other optic and keep a zero. Also "Blackthorne" is another name for a very shoddy company that changes its name on a yearly basis so it can keep pushing crap on to the unknowing. Caveat Emptor Hope about experiences with the Krebs rail? It looks solid since it's bridging the cover and has a rear sight. Yes, I know, it's pricey...just curious what the reviews are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Hope about experiences with the Krebs rail? It looks solid since it's bridging the cover and has a rear sight. Yes, I know, it's pricey...just curious what the reviews are. All things Krebs kick ass. However, Scott at DPH is bringing out some rails any time now ( his first run went like hotcakes ) at a much more reasonable rate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 +1 Scott doesn't fuck around. He won't peddle bullshit. Krebs also. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 My eyes do better with the longer sight radius. I am faster and more precise. The problem with even just iron sights mounted on the dustcover is that no matter how tight they are when you first set them up that eventually they get looser and then the sights move with each removal and re-installation. The Valmet and the Norenco Hunter solve the problem with a little shelf at the rear of the receiver to help positively locate the dustcover. I have been puzzling on the best way to duplicate this shelf. Any ideas? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hepcat85 0 Posted July 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Hope about experiences with the Krebs rail? It looks solid since it's bridging the cover and has a rear sight. Yes, I know, it's pricey...just curious what the reviews are. All things Krebs kick ass. However, Scott at DPH is bringing out some rails any time now ( his first run went like hotcakes ) at a much more reasonable rate. Just ordered one. Less than $80 shipped. As much as I like the Krebs and it's rear sight....80 bucks is an awesome price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiny 2 Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Hope about experiences with the Krebs rail? It looks solid since it's bridging the cover and has a rear sight. Yes, I know, it's pricey...just curious what the reviews are. All things Krebs kick ass. However, Scott at DPH is bringing out some rails any time now ( his first run went like hotcakes ) at a much more reasonable rate. Just ordered one. Less than $80 shipped. As much as I like the Krebs and it's rear sight....80 bucks is an awesome price. Do you have any pics of it on a rifle? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DoctorCheney223 1 Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 I used one of their topcovers but soon figured that "cool" looking isn't practical I did swap it out for the type you have pictured in the original post. I needed the HK drum sights in the rear to compensate for elevation because the front HK sights welded to the gas black did not allow for it. Here is one of the topcovers they used to have available (don't know if they make these anymore) and it is a solid unit. It's the thicker topcover and you cannot squeeze it together like a Romy or Bulgarian topcover. thanks, Ron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Nice looking pair of rifles there Ron. The top covers with the AR style sights are said to line up with a OEM AK Tower front sight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DoctorCheney223 1 Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Nice looking pair of rifles there Ron. The top covers with the AR style sights are said to line up with a OEM AK Tower front sight. The problem I had with the HK front sights is that I didn't have any way to adjust the elevation with AR15-style top cover. thanks, Ron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 The problem I had with the HK front sights is that I didn't have any way to adjust the elevation with AR15-style top cover. thanks, Ron I thought that the AR sights used on the top cover were adjustable? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 They are adjustable for windage and have the standard two different peeps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 They are adjustable for windage and have the standard two different peeps. I should have realized that it was not an A2 style sight! Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hepcat85 0 Posted August 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Hope about experiences with the Krebs rail? It looks solid since it's bridging the cover and has a rear sight. Yes, I know, it's pricey...just curious what the reviews are. All things Krebs kick ass. However, Scott at DPH is bringing out some rails any time now ( his first run went like hotcakes ) at a much more reasonable rate. Just ordered one. Less than $80 shipped. As much as I like the Krebs and it's rear sight....80 bucks is an awesome price. Do you have any pics of it on a rifle? So can a rear sight be added to the rail? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hepcat85 0 Posted April 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Hope about experiences with the Krebs rail? It looks solid since it's bridging the cover and has a rear sight. Yes, I know, it's pricey...just curious what the reviews are. All things Krebs kick ass. However, Scott at DPH is bringing out some rails any time now ( his first run went like hotcakes ) at a much more reasonable rate. Just ordered one. Less than $80 shipped. As much as I like the Krebs and it's rear sight....80 bucks is an awesome price. Do you have any pics of it on a rifle? So can a rear sight be added to the rail? BTT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gothchick 0 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 (edited) I don't think so. A rail-mounted rear site probably won't line up with the front sight from an elevation standpoint. Just my guess though. Edited April 24, 2009 by gothchick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paladin_Hammer 8 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Krebs rails seem to be revered when it comes to AK's. Apparently they hold zero, and don't let go. Someday I'll find out myself, but that day will be when I have $200 plus dollars to blow on an AK rail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gothchick 0 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 (edited) I swear by my Krebs rail. Believe me, I'd have no problem telling it like it is if it wasn't good. That being said, it's now my first choice in AK rails. Edited April 23, 2009 by gothchick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
concretus 0 Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 I swear by my Krebs rail. Believe me, I'd have no problem telling it like it is if it wasn't good. That being said, it's now my first choice in AK rails. I like your set up. Where did you get the raised cheek piece? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bad Bob 0 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Hello all, I'm curious how this unit compares to the Krebs and the Gilberts top rail. It looks low profile and would be good for an EoTech. Anyone have one? Any opinions? Thanks in advance. Hep Anyone ever tried one of these? http://www.tech-sights.com/ak.htm Looks like it might lock up tighter than a standard action cover sight... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lysander 0 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Hope about experiences with the Krebs rail? It looks solid since it's bridging the cover and has a rear sight. Yes, I know, it's pricey...just curious what the reviews are. I have one on my S-308 and absolutely love it. It locks up rock solid, returns to zero every time, and doesn't move an inch when locked. It also doesn't interfere with cleaning. I like the option of 2 apertures on the rear peep (mine stays set on the large ring) instead of just being forced into the smaller one (as most of the rails out there with one aperture do). Yeah, it's expensive, but it's a rock solid investment for your rifle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evi1joe 1 Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 I have the tech-sights on my 7.62x39 and love them (they did great at the range, but I haven't posted the report yet)! For $100, it was totally worth it compared to all the other options. NOTE: I do plan on using the old AKs rear-sight to mount a Larue Irondot or use a Samson rear-sight mount or something for a little red-dot). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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