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#1 Red Jacket

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Posted 29 July 2008 - 02:56 PM

Took over this project for a gentleman , it has been intresting . For those who have wondered , Yes you can .

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Posted 29 July 2008 - 03:02 PM

Thats just wrong! (in a cool way!)

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Posted 29 July 2008 - 03:25 PM

Thanks Jugg's :) shipping it to my customer today . He's a regular on this board so I wanted to give him [and all] a sneak peek .
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Posted 29 July 2008 - 06:03 PM

What does it use for mags?
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Posted 29 July 2008 - 06:29 PM

I want to kidnap it and breed in my basement!
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Posted 29 July 2008 - 07:27 PM

Hey! Thats mine! I just know Will has been fondling her.

It has the Galil magwell and uses Grendel specific mags which are AR based. It's the only one of it's kind. Will worked very hard making it all happen. I think it combines the best of everything.

The 6.5 has the accuracy of the 5.56, the penetration of the x39, and more velocity and energy at long range than the .308. All in a simple, rugged AK platform.

I will do extensive testing with various loads and report.

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Posted 29 July 2008 - 07:35 PM

Who manufactured the barrel blank?

Will, do you own the chamber reamer and guages?

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Posted 29 July 2008 - 07:40 PM

Tony, the barrel is from Pac-Nor.

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 09:18 AM

Who manufactured the barrel blank?

Will, do you own the chamber reamer and guages?

Tony

Pac-Nor supplied the barrel . I don't own the reamer or gauge . I had them leave it a bit long on the chamber end so I could cut it down to match up to the AK's boltface . If you catch a wild hair and decide you want one , these were the main's . Gasport , go conservative , think .223 preasure's/port size . Ramp , way short [longassed bullet on the 124 grn] . I think an original Galil ramp would have been a better starting place but the Bulgy .223 worked out in the end . I used a 20rn CMMG mag to set the magwell , I ordered a Alex arms 30 rnd to check it out . It didn't do so well , bolt wanted to ride over the top every 3-4 rnd's . Unloaded the mag , put the rnd's back in the 20 from CMMG and went back to shooting . Havn't tested enough to determine the "why" of it . I built it around Wolf124 grn softnose , which , I can't imagain a worse bullet for the AK platform . AK's being damn all hard on bullet tip's and those having about the biggest,longest , softest head I've ever seen on a rnd . I think the 110grn that are due out are going to be the natural fit for this caliber using the AK platform . For right now , I'm going get some of the 90 grn from Alex Arm's and work with them on the next one I build .
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Posted 30 July 2008 - 09:21 AM

Hey! Thats mine! I just know Will has been fondling her.

It has the Galil magwell and uses Grendel specific mags which are AR based. It's the only one of it's kind. Will worked very hard making it all happen. I think it combines the best of everything.

The 6.5 has the accuracy of the 5.56, the penetration of the x39, and more velocity and energy at long range than the .308. All in a simple, rugged AK platform.

I will do extensive testing with various loads and report.

oh , I wouldn't do that ......... :haha: How you like the look of those HK sight's up there ? I think they worked out great with that hinged dust-cover you invented . Will
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Posted 30 July 2008 - 10:52 AM

Took over this project for a gentleman , it has been intresting . For those who have wondered , Yes you can .

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Will, you are one sick dude, man. Can you convert my krink to fire 20 mike-mike? I'll be pissed if I see Atlantic selling this before you make it for me!

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 11:22 AM

Paladin, you have earned yourself a warning out of my own petty spiteful jealousy!

Sweet Rifle! (Asshole!) :haha:

Now I gotta go smack Dean with a warning for his new Tromix S12.......

Just kidding guys!

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 12:22 PM

Took over this project for a gentleman , it has been intresting . For those who have wondered , Yes you can .

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Will, you are one sick dude, man. Can you convert my krink to fire 20 mike-mike? I'll be pissed if I see Atlantic selling this before you make it for me!

yeah , but recoil's your problem :) I'll just have to figure a way to talk the help into testfireing for me LOL
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Posted 30 July 2008 - 12:49 PM

Hey! Thats mine! I just know Will has been fondling her.

It has the Galil magwell and uses Grendel specific mags which are AR based. It's the only one of it's kind. Will worked very hard making it all happen. I think it combines the best of everything.

The 6.5 has the accuracy of the 5.56, the penetration of the x39, and more velocity and energy at long range than the .308. All in a simple, rugged AK platform.

I will do extensive testing with various loads and report.

oh , I wouldn't do that ......... :haha: How you like the look of those HK sight's up there ? I think they worked out great with that hinged dust-cover you invented . Will


I patented my hinged dust cover mod, you have to pay me a royalty to copy it! :haha:

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 12:54 PM

Paladin, you have earned yourself a warning out of my own petty spiteful jealousy!

Sweet Rifle! (Asshole!) :haha:

Now I gotta go smack Dean with a warning for his new Tromix S12.......

Just kidding guys!



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Posted 30 July 2008 - 04:46 PM

Very nice! I've long thought this was a good idea, and I'm glad to see it becoming a reality. Look forward to hearing how such a high accuracy round performs on the AK platform.
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Posted 30 July 2008 - 05:10 PM

Paladin-

I can't wait until you get it so we can go shoot it!

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Now I just need an AR in .458 SOCOM so we can have a crazy caliber conversion shooting party

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 05:22 PM

Cool, I'm in with the .338 Specter

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 08:29 PM

I was thinking Will's next challenge from me might be a .338 federal.

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Posted 28 August 2008 - 09:13 PM

Wow - thats pretty awesome -- too bad there isn't another way to fold the stock - so that its legal in CA. I was lookign for info on somethigng like this - I was envisioning a rifle with many features of the keltec su-16 or keltec rfb -- - light, compact, semi auto, but in perhaps 6.5 Grendel (uses ar mags) -- the Saiga creation here is brilliant but the way the stock folds makes it major illegal in CA - whereas the way the keltec folds makes it ok as you cant fire/use it while its folded --- this is a pretty old thread but if anyone comes across something like this please PM me...

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Posted 16 April 2009 - 12:25 AM

how much does some thing like that cost?

After I got my hands on one of these I would like to see a 9mm version made by Red jacket or Tony

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Posted 30 November 2009 - 11:22 PM

Will,

Are you still willing to convert a Saiga 7.62x39 to a 6.5 Grendel?

Prior to starting an S12 conversion, I planned on purchasing a piston version of a 6.5 Grendel rifle. Since working on my S12 conversion, I've been considering a Saiga rifle conversion instead. After reading on this forum, I'm interested in a 6.5 Grendel Saiga conversion.

If you still do the 6.5 Grendel conversion, I'll purchase a Saiga 7.62x39 and the necessary parts over the winter. Then, I'll ship everything to you in the spring (if that fits your schedule).

Please let me know if this is possible and a "ballpark" cost estimate. Thanks.
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Posted 01 December 2009 - 12:42 AM

I know it's late but.. HOLY CRAP thats sick

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Posted 06 September 2010 - 02:36 PM

Will,

Are you still willing to convert a Saiga 7.62x39 to a 6.5 Grendel?

Prior to starting an S12 conversion, I planned on purchasing a piston version of a 6.5 Grendel rifle. Since working on my S12 conversion, I've been considering a Saiga rifle conversion instead. After reading on this forum, I'm interested in a 6.5 Grendel Saiga conversion.

If you still do the 6.5 Grendel conversion, I'll purchase a Saiga 7.62x39 and the necessary parts over the winter. Then, I'll ship everything to you in the spring (if that fits your schedule).

Please let me know if this is possible and a "ballpark" cost estimate. Thanks.

I'd hate to take it on right now , filming is eating up a lot of time . I can sell the one shown @ $1600.00
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Posted 06 September 2010 - 06:15 PM

how about converting to .450 Bushmaster? I am very close to buying an AR platform in .450 bushmaster, but I would love a Saiga instead. Can/will you do it? Timeframe? cost?

I also really would love a .410 Saiga converted to .45/70. Can/will you do it? timeframe? cost?

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 07:45 AM

This is very, very cool. That is an awesome weapon and will certainly get you noticed at the range.

Personally, though, I'd want one chambered in 7.62x45 just to confuse people. I still think that's a round that had great potential but was doomed due to the Soviet Union demanding all the Warsaw Pact nations use the 7.62x39.

If it were even mechanically possible, the other round I would love to have a Saiga chambered in is 7.62x38r. It'd be expensive to shoot, but I could always complain that I was missing a millimeter somewhere. :)


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Posted 24 September 2010 - 04:54 PM

Now, that is fucking awesome! Love the sight setup.
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Posted 20 August 2011 - 09:07 PM

Nice rifle wish I had one. had to sell off my collection to pay for medical bills.

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 12:34 PM

Great Concept !! I've been looking at platforms for 6.8spc. 6.5 grendel and creedmoor. I am a fan of the creedmoor, Would it be outta the realm of possibilities? I'll be watching. Good Luck




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