mstranglr 9 Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 During my LE training and a carbine class I took years ago (from a Chuck Taylor guy), We did hundreds of dry fires in training with our ARs, and that was accepted. The Military does the same same. I recently went to a weekend precision AR class to try out my new varminter build, and the instructors hear told us to NEVER dry fire an AR. My cousin just got out of the academy, and he was also told not to dry fire an AR without a dry fire device. Whats the Deal? Perhaps someone more "AR savy" can help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 Man, we used to "snap-in" for hours on end in Boot Camp. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 During my LE training and a carbine class I took years ago (from a Chuck Taylor guy), We did hundreds of dry fires in training with our ARs, and that was accepted. The Military does the same same. I recently went to a weekend precision AR class to try out my new varminter build, and the instructors hear told us to NEVER dry fire an AR. My cousin just got out of the academy, and he was also told not to dry fire an AR without a dry fire device. Whats the Deal? Perhaps someone more "AR savy" can help. Sounds like folks who want to talk the talk, but ain't ever 'walked the walk'. In their laundry list for the M16, the military requires the ability to be dry fired. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SharmanAJUSMC 0 Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 As my drill instructor screamed, "If you don't dry fire, how the fuck do you know if the fucking thing works!?!?!!" Also function checking an m16/ar15 requires dry firing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 I have been dry firing them for 30 years without a problem! Just another instructor with an oddball opinion or two. Nothing to see here folks, move along. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
quinci956 1 Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 I have been dry firing them for 30 years without a problem! Just another instructor with an oddball opinion or two. Nothing to see here folks, move along. In the Colt armorer school I went to several years ago, I was told that it would not hurt to dry fire an AR. Just don't do it with the upper and lower seperated because it is possible to crack because there is nothing else there for the hammer to strike against. Maybe this guy was asleep for the first part of the dry fire lesson. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlackDog 1 Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 you most certainly don't want to dry fire a bow, like a dumbass acquantenance of mine who dry fired a bow last week and had it blow to shreds in his face and arms. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 +1 to all of the above, but I have heard that you shouldn't dry-fire without an upper on your lower. The hammer will hit the bolt-catch or something or another. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayanx 1 Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 maybe they they have a buddy that sells snap caps? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jay21 0 Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 "Just don't do it with the upper and lower seperated because it is possible to crack because there is nothing else there for the hammer to strike against." +100 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
second shooter 22 Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 (edited) I was an armourer in the nz army( mid 80s to mid 90s), we had very old m16 A1s that had been dry fired thousands of times during their service life, no problem with fireing pins or bolts from this. Edited September 28, 2008 by second shooter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hallboss 1 Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 "AH! OH MY GAWD!!! YOU LITTLE PUKE HOW IN THE FUCK YOU GONNA KNOW THAT WEAPON WILL FIRE, UNLESS YOU PULL THAT FUCKIN' TRIGGER AND HERE THAT CLICK!!" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wakko 10 Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 CZ52 - don't dry fire Rimfire - don't dry fire AR15 - fire it any way you possibly can! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DHunter 1 Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 The only thing I found about dry firing in the manual which came with my new M&P15 is not to do it with the lower receiver disengaged from the upper. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vultite 57 Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 The only thing I found about dry firing in the manual which came with my new M&P15 is not to do it with the lower receiver disengaged from the upper. that is correct, for good reason too... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 The only thing I found about dry firing in the manual which came with my new M&P15 is not to do it with the lower receiver disengaged from the upper. Yeah, you'll bust your bolt catch if you do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WardenWolf 6 Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 CZ52 - don't dry fireRimfire - don't dry fire AR15 - fire it any way you possibly can! That's not entirely true about rimfires anymore. Many newer rimfires such as the Rugger Mark III pistols have a firing pin stop that makes it impossible for the firing pin to ever reach the chamber edge. It depends on your individual rimfire. It's also okay to dry fire AK's that have free-floating firing pins (not Saigas). After the first click, the pin will be fully forward and all the hammer will be striking is the flat rear of the bolt. It is a high-surface-area contact that cannot damage anything. AK's with sprung springs like Saigas still have the firing pin back protruding from the bolt, and dry firing these is slamming the firing pin forward. It's not particularly good to dry fire these. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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