frick 3 Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Just wondering, have a bunch of the late production Gen 1's, post metal clip flying off ones. Seem OK to me. Whats the deal with Gen 2? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gtnichols 51 Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 I have a few of both, and the old ones ,.. if you add the new clip and mod the follower work just like the new ones, there may be some other minute changes i am not aware of, but the older ones should be cheaper,.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IPSC_GUY 3 Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Just wondering, have a bunch of the late production Gen 1's, post metal clip flying off ones. Seem OK to me. Whats the deal with Gen 2? If I understand it correctly the Gen 2 Follower is 1/4 of an inch shorter to aid in inserting a fully loaded magazine with the bolt forward. I have a gen 2 follower that I have yet to install it and try it out. If it works I will file all of my followers down to match it. IPSC_GUY SIERRA II ALPHA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waltham_41 52 Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 (edited) Just wondering, have a bunch of the late production Gen 1's, post metal clip flying off ones. Seem OK to me. Whats the deal with Gen 2? If I understand it correctly the Gen 2 Follower is 1/4 of an inch shorter to aid in inserting a fully loaded magazine with the bolt forward. I have a gen 2 follower that I have yet to install it and try it out. If it works I will file all of my followers down to match it. IPSC_GUY SIERRA II ALPHA I used a dremmel cut off wheel to do my 4 Gen 1 mag followers, went quickly and turned out nice. Edited September 1, 2008 by waltham_41 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 IIRC minor changes to the feed angle? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berszerk 0 Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Just wondering, have a bunch of the late production Gen 1's, post metal clip flying off ones. Seem OK to me. Whats the deal with Gen 2? If I understand it correctly the Gen 2 Follower is 1/4 of an inch shorter to aid in inserting a fully loaded magazine with the bolt forward. I have a gen 2 follower that I have yet to install it and try it out. If it works I will file all of my followers down to match it. IPSC_GUY SIERRA II ALPHA I used a dremmel cut of wheel to do my 4 Gen 1 mag followers, went quickly and turned out nice. Did you take a full 1/4 in off of them? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waltham_41 52 Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Just wondering, have a bunch of the late production Gen 1's, post metal clip flying off ones. Seem OK to me. Whats the deal with Gen 2? If I understand it correctly the Gen 2 Follower is 1/4 of an inch shorter to aid in inserting a fully loaded magazine with the bolt forward. I have a gen 2 follower that I have yet to install it and try it out. If it works I will file all of my followers down to match it. IPSC_GUY SIERRA II ALPHA I used a dremmel cut of wheel to do my 4 Gen 1 mag followers, went quickly and turned out nice. Did you take a full 1/4 in off of them? Yes I did, the AGP site says that cutting 1/4 inch of the front legs of the follower will gain you most of the benefits of the difference between the Gen1 and Gen2 followers. They make them so I will take them to their word. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berszerk 0 Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Thank you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frick 3 Posted September 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Thanks from me as well, I was unaware of the need to mod the follower. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Thanks from me as well, I was unaware of the need to mod the follower. I have not moded my first gen..... If it aint broke....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waltham_41 52 Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 You are welcome guys, glad to be of help. Juggernaut, it does seem to make it easier to load and put a round in the chamber with a full mag. Its a real simple mod and I cant see where it would hurt anything so I did it. Trust me, if I was in doubt I would not have done it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Messiah Jones 2 Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 How do you tell the difference between Gen 1 and Gen 2? I don't know which ones I have but they are impossible to insert on a closed bolt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 second gen are stamped "gen 2" on the left side of the mag... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waltham_41 52 Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 If I am not mistaken the followers are marked also. You can buy the Gen 2 followers at AGP for 10 bucks each, but they are straight up and tell you that cutting 1/4 inch off of the front leg of the follower will basically get you a Gen 2 follower. Pretty nice of a company to tell you how to avoid spending more money with them and just mod what you have if you ask me. I dremmel marked my followers "modded to Gen 2 specs" in case I ever sold the mags. Would have for the new owner to cut them again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 anybody got pics of "moding" the 1st gen follower? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Messiah Jones 2 Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Thanks guys. I don't see any marks indicating that my mags are Gen 2, but I'd hate to go cutting on the followers without knowing for sure. Does anyone have a measurement so I can tell if my followers are OK to cut down? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waltham_41 52 Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 I didnt take any pics of doing the modding, but I measure 1 1/8 inch from the top to bottom of the front leg of the follower after the mod. NOT measuring from the very top of the follower, but the front flat part from top to bottom. Hope this helps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Messiah Jones 2 Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Well, I just compared my AGP followers to factoru Saiga followers. The front leg of the Saiga follower is 1/4" shorter than on the AGP. Just like their website says, I will trim off the front leg of the AGPs and see how it works. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 I took some pics last time I modded some. I'll try and find them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bayoupiper 738 Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Cobra put the pics up in a thread I started. It's here somewhere, I'll try to find it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bayoupiper 738 Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showto...r+modifications Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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