dnp 1 Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 Laid new sod in back yard. Squirrels already messing with it. Is city residential so firearms no can do. Any one ever had any experience with a BB gun and could recommend a very good one that'll shoot about 75 feet with effect? Tried a co2 pistol, could never stop the cartridge from leaking, even with a gasket. Worked ok as long as the co2 was available though. Appreciate any info. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigdaddyrandall 1 Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 Go to any sporting good store and pick up a break barrel pellet gun make sure it will shoot at least 1000 fps they do make them that will shoot 1200 fps Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6x6pinz 4 Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 (edited) Pick up an RWS 48 or 52. The side cocking action can not be beat and will not loose accuracy as the barrel break models do. I have a 52 with a 3x9 air rifle scope and can take small game at 75yds with ease. My RWS has been a great camp rifle to pick up those stray cottontail and squirrels that wonder too close to camp. If you so desire they also come in 22cal, though I have had no experience with that cal. here is a pic of my RWS next to my sons crossman classic 2100 with a red dot scope (also effective on small game at much closer ranges) The 2100 is the pump style 177 pellet rifle. Edited September 6, 2008 by 6x6pinz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rangerdavid 6 Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 yeah, I got just a simple old style BB gun, and after awhile the squirrels start running just when I cock it............... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
moxie1c 3 Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 Ive got a Gamo Hunter Sport, break barrel, that I use around the house here. It came with a 3-9x40 scope and it has a two stage adjustable trigger and a very nice hardwood stock. They advertise the rifle at 1200fps with the PBA ammo but to be honest it doesn't group worth a shit. I stick with my trusty ole gamo hunter ammo for everything from plinking to hunting. At 50 yards it will flip a ground squirrel right over with a one-shot clean kill. The biggest piece of advice that I can give with airguns, especially the spring powered break barrels is that they are extremely hold sensitive!! The do not like to be bench rested and I would never dream of mounting a bipod on one. I have had numerous break barrels and they all hold differently. The hunter sport I have now loves to be supported a few inches in front of the trigger which is almost dead on with the center point of the rifles balance. It does not like to be pulled tight in to the shoulder either. Springers' are weird sometimes but are a great value and will last a long time as long as you lube/oil the gaskets properly according to the manufactures specs. They take forever to break in and settle in before they stabilize. 500-1000 shots should do it rolleyes.gif There are aftermarket triggers available for the Gamos and there is some "compound" that you can put on your spring to dampen the harmonics. The rifle below is my latest addition and I only bought it cus it was $20 and because I found this picture after doing a little googling on it. pionier.bmp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dnp 1 Posted September 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Thanks, responders. What is a "break barrel" and why is it called that? (I haven't looked around). These are all BB guns, right? Mainly am wanting to whack the squirrels not necessarily kill them just to then have to dispose of carcass. Already tried rat traps which killed a few but some escaped. These guns you have graciously offered up as examples..how are they powered up? With pumping...with a co2 cartridge? Thanks again Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Someday, I'd LOVE to get a .410 SBS bunny blaster........ Like this one Will a Red Jacket did.... http://www.redstick-firearms.com/videos/fayesbs410zk.MPG Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Well...BB guns are just going about things the wrong way, my friend... There are MUCH BETTER ways to remove them pesky squirrels... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xr2kDbrMf8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdxi1xI7cbY&NR=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkC4f2T-h_0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbjB9MYX1Fc Or if you have a trap clay bird thrower... Thats MUCH more creative than a BB gun... Then you can post new and hysterical vids for us here!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigdaddyrandall 1 Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 HEY indyarms that is some funny stuff Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigdaddyrandall 1 Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 (edited) Aynew a break barrel is a single shot pellet gun and you take the end of the barrel and pull down on it that is how you cock it and gamo makes a good one but if you hit him you will have to get rid of the body.They also make a pump bb gun the more you pump it the harder it shoots that might be more along the line of what you are looking for. Edited September 7, 2008 by bigdaddyrandall Quote Link to post Share on other sites
righttoown 0 Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 How about a squirrel dog? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6x6pinz 4 Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 break barrel or lever cocking airguns are actions that move a spring and piston to send a column of air forcing the pellet out pump action simply pump air to a resevoir to be released pushing the pellet out and of course pressurized co2 canisters provide pressure to move the pellets. If you are just looking to annoy the critters, then I would suggest heading down to your local big box store and picking up one of the pump style airguns. These will be available in bb and pellet. They lack accuracy but will last some time with minimal use and care. Any of the pellet rifles that will get over 1000 fps will certainly have the ability to kill the critters. With a pump type rifle similar to my sons crossman 2100 you can adjust the distance/accuracy by pumping fewer/greater number of times. With a resevoir of almost 200 bb's you can sit on the patio and shoot at them all night. The trouble with bb's is the loss of accuracy but that is made up by the cost. If you want the most accuracy you will need to experiment with pellets and rifles. My RWS really likes the crossman premier ultra magnum pellets but the crossman prefers the gamo raptors. fo course there are cb caps for the 22 rifles that work well also. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SJgunguy 5 Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Do you own a .22 rifle or pistol? If you do pick up a box of 22 Colibri rounds, they are completly silent. I have one those Gamo super fast whiz bang fukn pellet guns and there to fukn loud. The Colibri's are silent 0 noise, primer only sub sonic no report and all you hear is "click" from the hammer falling. They are bad ass squirrel killers,I had roof rats so I would sit out in the backyard and wait for them fukrs to run across the power cable and "Click" check em' out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dnp 1 Posted September 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Well...BB guns are just going about things the wrong way, my friend... There are MUCH BETTER ways to remove them pesky squirrels... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xr2kDbrMf8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdxi1xI7cbY&NR=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkC4f2T-h_0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbjB9MYX1Fc Or if you have a trap clay bird thrower... Thats MUCH more creative than a BB gun... Then you can post new and hysterical vids for us here!! Indy Arms......HILARIOUS!! Thanks. Don't really want to kill the little fuckers, just quit bothering the new sod. Such funny vids! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bayoupiper 738 Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Crossman makes a pump BB/177 pistol. You can pump it up to 10 pumps and works on most small animals and windows. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waltham_41 52 Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Nice links Indy, squirrels get no respect, no respect at all! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Air gun isn't a firearm, which is a benefit. You can't get busted for discharging in city. Use a heavy pellet in .22cal. It'll be subsonic, not very loud, and it'll knock the shit out of the squirrels. You won't make them stay away. They'll just learn to hide/evade. You need to kill them. Once you thin them out it's pretty easy to keep them under control. They'll forget about you and then you can pop one every once in awhile to keep the population down. Another thing to remember is they don't like cayenne pepper. I keep them out of my attic by spraying the grate on my vents with dish soap and ater, then dust with cayenne. After they taste it for the first time, they stay the hell away from the wire. It's funny as hell when they get into it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 (edited) 1. Light off some (big/loud) firecrackers 2. In the midst of them going off, light them squirrels up with the Saiga 3. If/when police come, apologize for lighting off fireworks Air gun isn't a firearm, which is a benefit. I went to Canada last year or so, to a friends lake house, and wanted to bring my ol' Crossman. But when I did some online digging, I found that I could not bring it through the border, and it was considered a firearm. Maybe only because 2 countries and a border was involved? Edited September 7, 2008 by 22_Shooter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reverendfranz 160 Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 i dont see why not, Uncle BATFecker regulates paintball and airsoft supressors, might as well throw in red riders. You'll shoot your eye out, kid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SJgunguy 5 Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 An airgun is a firearm.................where's the fire???? Weird. I'm in the Bay Area in Cali. and the neighbor behind my pad called the police on me for the airgun. Yep it's against the law to discharge airguns. It fukn loud, I mean really loud. The Colibri's are silent. The pepper sounds like a good idea though. I've got about 500 pepper ball rounds that are .68 cal like the cops use for crowd supression. Sounds like fun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaddis 1,689 Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Air gun isn't a firearm, which is a benefit. You can't get busted for discharging in city. Wrong on both counts in the People's Socialist Republic of New Jersey. I actually had to pick up a NRA Dinner Daisy 1897 B.B. gun clone at a licensed gun shop once not long ago. Caught with an unlicensed black powder shooting iron, fugedaboudit. I hate this frikkin' state. And I hope everyone on the forum here who lives in a relatively sane state thinks about this on Election day (RangerDavid ). That's what freakn' happens when liberal Democrats take charge of shit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 I want to add these... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLd0-dLn0vQ...feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNEX3g7NVQM...feature=related (same but in slo-mo... ) Squirrel versus snake... BUT... heres why you will ALWAYS LOSE to the conniving, crafty squirrels... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GPalmer 1 Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Wrong on both counts in the People's Socialist Republic of New Jersey. I lived in New Jersey out by Piscataway for about 6 months. After that it got my most hated state award! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Modiano 5 Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 i would go with a good quality pneumatic rifle. as a kid my neighbor's old .177 benjamin he got from his grandfather kicked ass. pump it 6-8 times and it would go through plywood. my $50 (1990 dollars) crossman couldn't a candle to it. sorry, don't remember fps's. i recently saw a scoped remington 750fps for $85 and a scoped winchester 1000fps for $130 at academy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vultite 57 Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 (edited) i had one of those pump action BB/pellet rifles with the autoload mag on it with a pressure gauge, i believe 10 pumps was max pressure and it came with a mounted scope which is probably X2 or X4, but the thing was dead on, and pretty good on FPS, i used it myself for squirrels when i had an outside dog, the big ass dog was too slow for the squirrel and they would fuck with the poor bastard's food until i shot a few through the eye I long got rid of the gun but definately would buy one again, i think it was a crossman? it was a pricer model, maybe 1200 FPS using a pellet? Edited September 8, 2008 by Vultite Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Twinsen 86 Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 (edited) i would go with a good quality pneumatic rifle. as a kid my neighbor's old .177 benjamin he got from his grandfather kicked ass. pump it 6-8 times and it would go through plywood. my $50 (1990 dollars) crossman couldn't a candle to it. sorry, don't remember fps's. i recently saw a scoped remington 750fps for $85 and a scoped winchester 1000fps for $130 at academy. I agree. Any air rifle that uses a spring piston (ones you cock), has a noise when it is fired that is recognizable. If you dry fire one of these by accident, people will wonder why you just fired a .22LR in your backyard, because it will be that loud. The Pneumatic guns that fire off of a pressurized tank like a paintball gun, are completely silent. These are also much more powerful, and can be too damn expensive as well. There have to be relatively cheap ones. Just make sure that the one you get is subsonic (for low noise), keep it under 1100fps to be sure. They make these from .177 to at least .357. Add: I forgot, your other option is to go even quieter and maybe cheaper. Get a suppressor for a .22 that you own. They run $200-300, plus a $200 stamp. That's actually the option I chose. Waiting on the can still though. Edited September 8, 2008 by Twinsen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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