dph arms 88 Posted January 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 I got cash money on one of these when they're available We are doing the production run next week. As for discounts, I will be offering the prototypes at a discount. The only difference is the protos have 2 holes in them were we intended to use set screws. I hope to have more info next week. Scott Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gtnichols 51 Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 Sell me a prototype one for the discount,.. SOLD! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hangfire13 0 Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 We need more info and pics please! What do you have for .308 owners? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
auburn 1 Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 (edited) Sorry if I missed it, but any idea about pricing? Edited January 1, 2009 by Auburn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
usmc_mwroseberry 0 Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 I got cash money on one of these when they're available We are doing the production run next week. As for discounts, I will be offering the prototypes at a discount. The only difference is the protos have 2 holes in them were we intended to use set screws. I hope to have more info next week. Scott What is the tread set on this piece? Or does it have a set break or flash hinder? Also I would be interested in the second proto...... Please PM me with the option if it's available because I will grab it up. Thanks, Merritt SGT USMC vet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VladTepes 160 Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 is there any clear cut brake (NOT HIDER) i could use with this... because i can't ave a hider in NJ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunguy98 5 Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Nice, are you going to make an NY legal version? It could only be a muzzle-break and it would have to be attached permanently to the threads, but I'd buy one. I'm in Ny too, our law only states no threaded barrel, unless it's a pre-ban, since the barrel is not threaded I wouldn't see why it's not legal here? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wlnt 2 Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Here is a picture of our NO THREAD REQUIRED MUZZLE ATTACHMENT. We finally signed the patent pending paperwork today and the lawyer says we are good to go on advertising and selling these. We have a show this weekend so I will be away. I will try to get these on the site early next week. .223 and 7.62 only for now Scott This is the only picture I have right now but I will get better ones next week. It is an actual picture not a photoshop. The flash hider does screw off and on. You can change muzzle attachment whenever you want. Scott, I was right after "Gas Giant" in signing up for a muzzle attachment. Can I get one of the prototypes at a discount. My posting on Dec. 13 was "Scott, Are you going to have a sign up and if so, can I be signed up? louielouie Please PM me with the price and payment option. Thanks, louielouie Wayne Nehrt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hangfire13 0 Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 If you do something for .308 owners, be sure to let us know over in the low rent district;-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zone1935 5 Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 I got cash money on one of these when they're available We are doing the production run next week. As for discounts, I will be offering the prototypes at a discount. The only difference is the protos have 2 holes in them were we intended to use set screws. I hope to have more info next week. Scott I am VERY interested in a 223 prototype. I will PM you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DL762AP 0 Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 When are these supposed to be released?? I want one! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tire iron 13 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Any update here?? Its been a week.... cheers tire iron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dph arms 88 Posted January 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 The shop has ran the f/h's already, they are working on the "clip". We did find one issue.....we have several front site take offs here that we have been using for our prototyping, we have found one that the has a serious offset on the part that is in front of the site tower. This offset is causing some issues with the clip fitting and not distorting the threads. We are trying one idea that we have to see if it will take care of it. Virtually all of the site blocks that we have here for testing have worked just fine. Scott Quote Link to post Share on other sites
taurussvt 0 Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Shit, I was hoping it would have no threads at all. I'm in NJ and the whole threaded barrel thing has been fucking me over for some time now. I'm in NJ also. I dont really know if this would be legal in NJ, but this attachement does not really thread the physical barrel itself, it's sort of like a clamp on brake, which there are no laws for in NJ. So since you would not be threading the barrel, would this still be non compliant in NJ? i called the state police and they told me this.. NO threads at all.... NO flash hider at all... i then said can i weld on a brake.. he said the rules are exactly what he said they were... no threads no flash hider... so im under the impression that it basically has to be reasonable perminent or its no good...but i actually am interested in this because i was thinking some kind of brake on it then just have a little spot weld on the brake.. this would let me not have to actually weld my barrel... The whole point is to not have accessible threads on the barrel, and not a have a flash hider. You can in fact thread your barrel, but then you either have to weld or blind pin a muzzle brake on. The problem is, if you thread your barrel in NJ, you've just committed a felony, for however long it takes you to blind pin or weld the brake on. This is why I was hoping this brake would go on sort of like a compression fitting, just squeezing the barrel. If you put one of those set screw thread adapters on your rifle in NJ it's illegal. Why wouldn't this brake be illegal too? You're adding threads that are accessible, which in the state polices mind means you can add a flash hider. If you really want to add a brake legally in NJ your best bet would be to buy a nice 74 style one with 24MM threads along with a new FSB with 24MM threads and send both, along with your rifle to a place like Adco to have them pinned together and installed on the rifle. Once you get it back you'll have your muzzle brake, and no access to the threads. That would be legal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
usmc_mwroseberry 0 Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 We want an update..... We want an update..... And you better hurry or the villagers with pitchforks will get you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VladTepes 160 Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Shit, I was hoping it would have no threads at all. I'm in NJ and the whole threaded barrel thing has been fucking me over for some time now. I'm in NJ also. I dont really know if this would be legal in NJ, but this attachement does not really thread the physical barrel itself, it's sort of like a clamp on brake, which there are no laws for in NJ. So since you would not be threading the barrel, would this still be non compliant in NJ? i called the state police and they told me this.. NO threads at all.... NO flash hider at all... i then said can i weld on a brake.. he said the rules are exactly what he said they were... no threads no flash hider... so im under the impression that it basically has to be reasonable perminent or its no good...but i actually am interested in this because i was thinking some kind of brake on it then just have a little spot weld on the brake.. this would let me not have to actually weld my barrel... The whole point is to not have accessible threads on the barrel, and not a have a flash hider. You can in fact thread your barrel, but then you either have to weld or blind pin a muzzle brake on. The problem is, if you thread your barrel in NJ, you've just committed a felony, for however long it takes you to blind pin or weld the brake on. This is why I was hoping this brake would go on sort of like a compression fitting, just squeezing the barrel. If you put one of those set screw thread adapters on your rifle in NJ it's illegal. Why wouldn't this brake be illegal too? You're adding threads that are accessible, which in the state polices mind means you can add a flash hider. If you really want to add a brake legally in NJ your best bet would be to buy a nice 74 style one with 24MM threads along with a new FSB with 24MM threads and send both, along with your rifle to a place like Adco to have them pinned together and installed on the rifle. Once you get it back you'll have your muzzle brake, and no access to the threads. That would be legal. i think that the advice you give there is wrong and heres why... in the course of doing MANY common gun items you would be doing the same.. example.. changing a stock on a rifle.. for the short time the stock is off it is now too short.. in the process of building my saiga there were several moments where i didnt have enough US parts... there is no magic to MAKE all your gun parts appear on the gun instantly... lastly i spoke to the state police on the matter.. and said weld so it cant move.. and while they can not "give you legal advice" he said "now you are on the right track"... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tire iron 13 Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 UPDATE???????? More pics!!!!!!! Pricing????? Availability?????? cheers tire iron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
coreyack 0 Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Bump.....for update? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smokymtnsmoke 0 Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 The shop has ran the f/h's already, they are working on the "clip". We did find one issue.....we have several front site take offs here that we have been using for our prototyping, we have found one that the has a serious offset on the part that is in front of the site tower. This offset is causing some issues with the clip fitting and not distorting the threads. We are trying one idea that we have to see if it will take care of it. Virtually all of the site blocks that we have here for testing have worked just fine. Scott Any update? I see they are not on your web site yet. Do you have a ETA yet? Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mini14jac 1 Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Real interested also, DPH. Please keep us informed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
t165 30 Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 DamagedWorld...I would call your State Attorney General's office for legal guidance pretaining to interpretations of law. The State Police, while I'm sure a great bunch of guys, all too often do not take into account case law and, at times, simply do not understand the intent of the statute. The State Attorney is a higher authority and a letter from them should effectively shield you from any prosecution if they deem the clamp on device as legal. When it comes to law the Judges are Kings...the prosecutors are the royal family...and the cops are the grunt soldiers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VladTepes 160 Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 DamagedWorld...I would call your State Attorney General's office for legal guidance pretaining to interpretations of law. The State Police, while I'm sure a great bunch of guys, all too often do not take into account case law and, at times, simply do not understand the intent of the statute. The State Attorney is a higher authority and a letter from them should effectively shield you from any prosecution if they deem the clamp on device as legal. When it comes to law the Judges are Kings...the prosecutors are the royal family...and the cops are the grunt soldiers. while i cant comment on this particular piece the situation is fairly cut and dry.. can you can not have acesable threads.. you cant have them because you could easily put on an item that would put the rifle in violation.. if you ad a brake (an item that is OK in NJ, providing it does not posses any flash hiding ability) and do it in a way where it is perminantly attached (welded) then its fine.. judging by the way NJ does business.. if you used this adapter and did NOT make it perminant.. they WILL have a problem with it.. but that is just a guess.. the rest is not.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dph arms 88 Posted February 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 It's in works.....I know we have said that several times. I just want to make sure that this thing is exactly right. I assure you we are very close. Scott Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micromatrix 7 Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Dear Scott I sure would like one of those fancy thing's Quote Link to post Share on other sites
t90 0 Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 place me on the wait pre order list as well! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cma g21 3 Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 (edited) Edited: Question deleted, answered in another thread. Edited February 13, 2009 by cma g21 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VladTepes 160 Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Edited: Question deleted, answered in another thread. no in the other thread it states that the one they offer is a one off threading and you must use the muzzle attachment that they provide.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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