macross40k 0 Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 (edited) I placed an order for 2 and was told they should be ready for shippping by Jan. 2nd. In February when I come home on R&R, assuming there's no hiccups in shipping or the like, I will be testing very extensively! Edited December 22, 2008 by macross40k Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jdeitch 32 Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 I placed an order for 2 and was told they should be ready for shippping by Jan. 2nd. In February when I come home on R&R, assuming there's no hiccups in shipping or the like, I will be testing very extensively! Ditto... Called and spoke to Derek this morning and ordered mine today too! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paladin 37 Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 This looks promising! I'll await the reviews. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gmorgan 2 Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 This looks promising! I'll await the reviews. OK did I miss sumpin ? what will be the final production finish of the well ? flat black, gloss black, park, some high speed polymer coating ?? Just wondering Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigj480 203 Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 OK did I miss sumpin ? what will be the final production finish of the well ? flat black, gloss black, park, some high speed polymer coating ?? Just wondering Thanks As soon as I have all of them, I will send them out for both Black and Clear Hard Coat Anodizing. If anyone wants one as it is [no coating], let me know. Looking at about under two weeks turn arround for the anodizing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 (edited) Will it work with the MD drum? A lot of us have them. Edited December 22, 2008 by BobAsh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
topmaul 42 Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 I think the deal is you have to make a choice mag well or drum, me I would pick mag well. Unless some one makes a drum with a long/strong neck hint hint! Heck it could hold 23 or maybe 25 rounds that would be great because you could put a full box of shot shells in the drum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jdtravers 637 Posted December 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 I think the deal is you have to make a choice mag well or drum, me I would pick mag well. Unless some one makes a drum with a long/strong neck hint hint! Heck it could hold 23 or maybe 25 rounds that would be great because you could put a full box of shot shells in the drum. Once I get my head above water, I will take a look at it. I will go grab Dean Makos Drum and check it out. Aldo (Al Zita, ZM Weapons) extended the neck on the drum for his Spas and got it working. Nothing that can't be done. Jack Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jdtravers 637 Posted December 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 There are only five (5) magwell left from this production run. I had to keep 25 of them for customer guns/builds and the rest pre-sold in one day. We will do another production run as quickly as we can. Thank you for your support. Regards, Jack Travers Millennium Custom II Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jaymce 7 Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 When do you think the second run will come out? no avail right now end of month & x-mas always take a toll. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TronJohn 1 Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 hmm. Sounds nice, but you need to have every mag fitted to this magwell? What about the MD20? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jdtravers 637 Posted December 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 hmm. Sounds nice, but you need to have every mag fitted to this magwell? What about the MD20? Only if you want to use them with the magwell. MD20 has to Rock-N-Lock. Jack Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jdeitch 32 Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Question for Jack - I was one of the lucky ones to get in on the first batch of magwells. I'm new to the saiga world, not to guns and/or mods, and I building up my parts list to do my first saiga conversion. I purchased two saiga and this first conversion will be a bolt-on, not weld, until I have fimilarized myself with what works/feels best for me. I have been looking at the saigatech trigger guard/grip adapter and wondering if it would interfere with the magwell. Jack can you comment on this please. Thanks in advance, JD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jdtravers 637 Posted December 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Not a problem. Look at the pics of the extended magazine release and it shows the detail of the mag well setup a little better. Regards, Jack Quote Link to post Share on other sites
macross40k 0 Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Forgot to ask...is the magwell compatible with the stock mag release, or will it have to shortened/an extension welded on? I planned on doing the extension anyway, but was just curious. Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
okent 0 Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 This doesn't make it "drop free" right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jdtravers 637 Posted December 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 It will work with the stock mag release. Once you trim the mags correctly they will be "Drop Free" mags. I will have VERY detailed instructions on how to adapt the mags to the magwell. Very easy, just can't get carried away and take off too much of the front lug. Will have one of the new Surefire 12/13 round mags tomorrow (Wednesday) and I will check it out in the magwell. It should spec out just like an AGP. Will let you know. Jack Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jdtravers 637 Posted December 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 When do you think the second run will come out? no avail right now end of month & x-mas always take a toll. If we can get the cycle time (cost) down on each magwell we will use the same company which just ran the product and be out in about two weeks. Jack Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TX-Zen 287 Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 When do you think the second run will come out? no avail right now end of month & x-mas always take a toll. If we can get the cycle time (cost) down on each magwell we will use the same company which just ran the product and be out in about two weeks. Jack Jack, So you think you will have the second run available in about 2 weeks? And just to recap, the installation CAN be performed at home without a gunsmith? I think I saw you mention that earlier in the thread. Z Quote Link to post Share on other sites
starman 1 Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 I hate to sound dumb, but exactly what is it that the magwell does? By the way, is that you surfing? I live and surf on the Outer Banks of NC. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jdtravers 637 Posted December 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 I hate to sound dumb, but exactly what is it that the magwell does? By the way, is that you surfing? I live and surf on the Outer Banks of NC. Starman, With the magwell, you load a magazine in the Saiga just like you would with an AR-15/M16, etc. Just push the magazine into the magwell and seat it. Very easy and you don't have to have the bolt locked back to do it. Push the extended magazine release and the mag will drop free. Yeah, I still surf whenever I can. That picture was down in Jaco, Costa Rica. Regards, Jack Travers Millennium Custom II Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jdtravers 637 Posted December 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 When do you think the second run will come out? no avail right now end of month & x-mas always take a toll. If we can get the cycle time (cost) down on each magwell we will use the same company which just ran the product and be out in about two weeks. Jack Jack, So you think you will have the second run available in about 2 weeks? And just to recap, the installation CAN be performed at home without a gunsmith? I think I saw you mention that earlier in the thread. Z We still have some left right now and yes, we should have the next run out mid January. Yes, you can instal the magwell well with a hand drill, and blend the receiver opening with a dremel. Just follow the instructions and take your time. Jack Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jdtravers 637 Posted December 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 Here is one of the pictures which is in the detailed instructions with regards to modifying the AGP magazine for the Mag well. This is just a basic view to give you an idea how easy it is to modify the mag. The insructions have VERY detailed, step by step instructions You sand/cut down the front lug as shown, and lightly sand the sides of the mag to fit the inside of the Saiga 12 receiver well. The mags are generally oversize of the receiver well, sanding the sides allows the mag to drop free when the mag release is pushed. The inside of the Saiga 12 receiver well is 1.003 +/- .001, so you want the outside of top of the magazine to be about .001 undersize of the receiver well. Regards, Jack Travers Millennium Custom II SAIGA_12_magmod.ppt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mark78410 0 Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 here i hope it works Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jdtravers 637 Posted December 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 here i hope it works Mark is trying to download a video of loading/dropping the magazine. He has one of the original prototypes. Works great!! Regards, Jack Travers Millennium Custom II Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jdeitch 32 Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Any news on these? I have not heard from anyone yet. I called Derek before xmas and got in on the first batch. I thought they were supposed to be shipping on Jan. 2nd. No pressure, just anxious. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wakal 10 Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 I talked to Derek this afternoon. He said that the mag wells should be back from the anodize shop in the next few days, and will ship immediately after that. The holidays messed up the (anticipated) schedule Alex Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 276 Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 I talked to Derek this afternoon. He said that the mag wells should be back from the anodize shop in the next few days, and will ship immediately after that. The holidays messed up the (anticipated) schedule Alex Aw come on...you must of forgot where you are Alex....how long did we hear about 10rd mags before they finally happened? then the drum? This particular magwell seems pretty quick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wakal 10 Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 And you don't see me whining about delivery, either The question was asked about a specific (now past) date, and I answered because I just happend to have got off the phone with Derek a few minutes before I read the post. While I am always impatient, I really won't "need" mine until the LaRue Tactical match in March Alex Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IPSC_GUY 3 Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 And you don't see me whining about delivery, either The question was asked about a specific (now past) date, and I answered because I just happend to have got off the phone with Derek a few minutes before I read the post. While I am always impatient, I really won't "need" mine until the LaRue Tactical match in March Alex I just ordered one of these so we will see how long it takes. My S12 is taken down at the moment as it is getting refinished so this is a perfect time to do it. I waited all this time to get a drum and now that I have it I am going to put on a magwell that won't accept it... I think however that the utility of quicker mag changes will outweigh the 20 round advantage as I would not toss an empty drum on the ground like I will an AGP. IPSC_GUY SIERRA II ALPHA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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