tal35 0 Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Can someone post a picture or 2 of the pistol grip cutout area? I need to make the cut but don't have a clue on where to make the cut or the size. Thank you! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CaptLouie 8 Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Can someone post a picture or 2 of the pistol grip cutout area? I need to make the cut but don't have a clue on where to make the cut or the size. Thank you! This diagram is from another post in the forum. I got a copy at dinzag's web site... Hope it helps... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tal35 0 Posted January 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Cool, thank you! I will use it for a template. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tal35 0 Posted January 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 I looked at Danzigs drawing and also a conversion with pics, Danzigs drawing shows it to be at the front of the 1/4 inch slot, but the other conversion is showing it in the middle of the 1/4" slot, which is right? Is there a measurement from the back of the receiver that is accurate? To me this seems to be the most important cut considering you can screw it up easily. Any other ideas from people that have completed this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Surly 11 Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 I use rear receiver sections from AK parts set and a scribe for locating mine. If you know someone that has one, borrow it and perpetuate the K.I.S.S. principle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CaptLouie 8 Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 I looked at Danzigs drawing and also a conversion with pics, Danzigs drawing shows it to be at the front of the 1/4 inch slot, but the other conversion is showing it in the middle of the 1/4" slot, which is right? Is there a measurement from the back of the receiver that is accurate? To me this seems to be the most important cut considering you can screw it up easily. Any other ideas from people that have completed this? I agree... I used the measurements from the diagram as my quide. Mine measured out as partially in front of the old trigger slot and overlapped it some. I cut based on the measurements and then tried my nut and PG mounting. I ended up "elongating" my PG nut hole further into the old trigger slot (toward the rear). The WIDTH is critical in my opinion. the PG nut can slide forward or rearward a little. I was then able to move my PG up firm against the re-mounted trigger guard (I used the factory guard modified and reinstalled). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tal35 0 Posted January 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Does anyone have a templete I can use, borrow, or rent? I want to get this right! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
acercanto 6 Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 (edited) Well, I just sat my PG on the receiver where I wanted it and eyeballed where center would be, and started filing. It fits fine, and holds the trigger guard in just fine. Don't sweat it man. MS Paint pic forthcoming. Acer ETA pic. Edited January 16, 2009 by acer_saiga308 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tal35 0 Posted January 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 I will blow up the drawing you made and try to use it.Thank you! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
acercanto 6 Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 (edited) Bwahahaha, I hope you're talking to Capt. Louie and not me. I just sketched that out in Paint in like 3 seconds to give you an idea of the ratio front to back in the old trigger hole. Looking closer, I didn't even manage to get the old trigger hole centered on the receiver. PLEASE DON'T use that as a template, just eyeball it or measure using Louie's numbers. You're much better off that way. hackjob, Acer OKAY. Here's a picture to show you just how huge the tolerances are. Edited January 16, 2009 by acer_saiga308 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tal35 0 Posted January 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 [Thanks for all the help!!! I will try it today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobotech 3 Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 My 308 had the pistol grip hole already in place however it was not big enough front to back. I had to file it to get the nut to position itself properly. Before filing, it would not lay down flat to give the proper angle for the pistol grip screw. After filing, it now fits flush. For the screw hole, I just mounted my reused trigger guard on the mag catch with the screw and nut and then just drilled the rear hole using the existing hole in the trigger guard just kind of by winging it. Meh. Its easier done than said. It is an AK and being off by certain amounts isn't going to make a big deal of a difference. In the end, it looks good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tal35 0 Posted January 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 [i got my hole cut ok, but I have a grip that i got from MIssissippiauto arms but the grip is totally hollow inside. The bolt is then way too long to ever tighten up. The instructions call out for a lock washer but I have about 4 inches of grip that needs filled to use the long screw provided with the square grip bolt. What do you do? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
acercanto 6 Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Sounds like it's more like an AR grip than an AK one. I'd get a smaller screw. Figure out how long it should be roughly, and take your long screw to the hardware store and find one with the same threads and the length you need. Or maybe email MAA and see if he can send you the proper one, or tell you what the proper one is. Glad to hear you got the hole cut! Acer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CaptLouie 8 Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 [i got my hole cut ok, but I have a grip that i got from MIssissippiauto arms but the grip is totally hollow inside. The bolt is then way too long to ever tighten up. The instructions call out for a lock washer but I have about 4 inches of grip that needs filled to use the long screw provided with the square grip bolt. What do you do? YEP... If you ordered the PG nut and bolt, you got the setup for an AK PG attachment... If you ordered the SAW PG (comes with a bolt and locknut) it uses a MUCH shorter screw... but does need the PG Nut. You can get the PG Nut and Screw (AK) or just the PG nut... Luck, Louie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tal35 0 Posted January 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 I ordered both actually but didnt get the short screw. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CaptLouie 8 Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 I ordered both actually but didnt get the short screw. The SAW PG is hollow, has a plate on the bottom retained by a spring that fits inside a groove in the bottom/sides of the PG. The Screw and lock washer SHOULD have been inside. If not... I'd get in contact with who you purchased it from or DOUBLE CHECK your packaging and make sure it didn't come out inside the bag (hopefully) or the box.. Mine was inside the SAW PG and I had to pop the spring retainer and open the plate to get it out... Luck... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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