oak 3 Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 (edited) Lowes sold out here. Home depot only has white ones. Edited February 13, 2005 by oak Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 GET white.... paint them black!!!! LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rogi 0 Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Hi guys, quick question for you guys. I was reading up on the conversion write-up and came up to this part: http://www.cross-conn.com/Saiga_Conversion/Step_7.htm 10. There are two things left to do, one of which is very necessary. The necessary thing is to figure out a way to prevent the hammer and trigger axles from backing out of the receiver, and the other thing is to fill in the holes that are left from the sporter configuration. Fortunately, I found a way that addresses both at the same time. I do this with a type of fastener called a binding post, also known as a Chicago post or screw post. Binding posts are used to bind large loose leaf documents. They come in various lengths, so I bought a couple that were slightly longer than what I needed and trimmed about 1/16 inch off the threaded end. Basically, binding posts are a threaded tube with a head on one end with a matching bolt that screws into the tube. So do these plastic rivets do the trick? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 (edited) They DO INDEED!!!! they stay put! I have them in my 20 gauge conversion and my .410 conversion and my .223 conversion... have not had one come out yet... ( and I bought a dozen extras in case they do!) they LOOK like rivets... they WORK!!! SIMPLE as that. and QUICK! BUT.... I used "E clips" to hold the two FCG pins in place, that way there is NO NEED to use the binding posts, and original locking spring they advertise in the conversion instructions. I think the size I went with is 7/32'nds I just took a FCG pin to work, went to the maintenance shop, grabbed the box of Eclips.. and found the right size... and grabbed a bunch! LOL Gotta love work for goodies! LOL Edited February 16, 2005 by IndyArms Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rogi 0 Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Cool.....maybe I should stock up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Roqi... read the edited post, please... I changed a little since you posted... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pistonring8 1 Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 Wow, it pays to peek in on the 20guage forum sometimes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 Why wouldnt you peek in on ALL the forums... you never know what info is out there... just waiting for you to enjoy!! some of it is even applicable to OTHER saigas... not just the forum its posted in! hahaha LOL I take it you LIKE this idea??? its a KICKASS idea!!! JD1 outdone himself with this one!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jd1 2 Posted February 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 I like the 7/32 e-clip idea. I had used 1/4 and filed them down but the 7/32 is perfect. jd1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 we should rename this the "Genius *EASY* Remodification Thread"! LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rogi 0 Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 Roqi... read the edited post, please... I changed a little since you posted... Ahh just saw that......what the hell is an e-clip? Any pics and where do I get them? Doing the conv. next weekend......my buddy decided to get a drill press and some milling stuff so we pushed it back a week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jd1 2 Posted February 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 Check out this link http://www.rkengineeringco.com/eclip.htm Lowe's and Home Depot have them in their pieces and parts drawers in the fastener section. You'll need the 7/32 ones. It wouldn't hurt to get 2 packs of 2 in case one goes flying. I didn't lose one but came close. jd1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rogi 0 Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 Check out this link http://www.rkengineeringco.com/eclip.htmLowe's and Home Depot have them in their pieces and parts drawers in the fastener section. You'll need the 7/32 ones. It wouldn't hurt to get 2 packs of 2 in case one goes flying. I didn't lose one but came close. jd1 Thanks.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oak 3 Posted February 22, 2005 Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 The white ones at home depot are $0.32 per pair. They have lots of them also. I Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted February 22, 2005 Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 Cheaper than the black at lowes.... now if you can PAINT THEM... you will be all set!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oak 3 Posted February 22, 2005 Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted February 22, 2005 Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 (edited) gotta love it!!! ( THIS WAS THE 35,000'th POST!! WOOWOO!!) Edited February 22, 2005 by IndyArms Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 BUMP-O-RAMA! Cause this thread is WORTHY of the bump!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon73 0 Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Damn! My secret's out! I've been using white Home Depot ones, as that's all I've been able to find locally. I colored them with a black Sharpee marker. It leaves them just the right shade of black and somewhat textured looking. The finish (if it's fair to call it that) does wear off, but it's easy enough to touch up! I will look for the black ones and Lowes. They may even look nicer once Sharpeeized and they shouldn't show wear as easily as the whites. Cheap and practical cosmetic fix. Props to jd1 for putting the word out. Falcon73 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Damn! My secret's out! I've been using white Home Depot ones, as that's all I've been able to find locally. I colored them with a black Sharpee marker. It leaves them just the right shade of black and somewhat textured looking. The finish (if it's fair to call it that) does wear off, but it's easy enough to touch up! I will look for the black ones and Lowes. They may even look nicer once Sharpeeized and they shouldn't show wear as easily as the whites. Cheap and practical cosmetic fix. Props to jd1 for putting the word out. Falcon73 Guess I posted it elsewhere, but you can find BLACK ones at ACE Hardware, for 20 cents each!! No paint/marker required. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Damn now my secret's out! A Sharpie is a well used black Russian AK shotgun's best friend. Or a brand new conversion for that matter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dinzag 31 Posted January 31, 2006 Report Share Posted January 31, 2006 Damn! My secret's out! I've been using white Home Depot ones, as that's all I've been able to find locally. I colored them with a black Sharpee marker. It leaves them just the right shade of black and somewhat textured looking. The finish (if it's fair to call it that) does wear off, but it's easy enough to touch up! I will look for the black ones and Lowes. They may even look nicer once Sharpeeized and they shouldn't show wear as easily as the whites. Cheap and practical cosmetic fix. Props to jd1 for putting the word out. Falcon73 Guess I posted it elsewhere, but you can find BLACK ones at ACE Hardware, for 20 cents each!! No paint/marker required. That's a much better price! I always wondered where the hole plug idea came from. I've used it on all my guns to date...Good work jd1! Thanks for posting it in the tech section too, Indy! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Roadkill45 0 Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Damn! My secret's out! I've been using white Home Depot ones, as that's all I've been able to find locally. I colored them with a black Sharpee marker. It leaves them just the right shade of black and somewhat textured looking. The finish (if it's fair to call it that) does wear off, but it's easy enough to touch up! I will look for the black ones and Lowes. They may even look nicer once Sharpeeized and they shouldn't show wear as easily as the whites. Cheap and practical cosmetic fix. Props to jd1 for putting the word out. Falcon73 Guess I posted it elsewhere, but you can find BLACK ones at ACE Hardware, for 20 cents each!! No paint/marker required. That's a much better price! I always wondered where the hole plug idea came from. I've used it on all my guns to date...Good work jd1! Thanks for posting it in the tech section too, Indy! ROSIE THE RIVETOR!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon73 0 Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Update - I bought some black ones from Lowes. The texture and color are perfect. No more Sharpee action for me! I'd strongly recommend them over the white ones. BTW, don't worry about these things popping out. My white ones were an absolute pain to get out. I finally cut the heads off them and pushed them in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlenderWizard 12 Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 http://www.widgetco.com/hardware/hole-plug...overs-5MM-black $0.10 each, free shipping Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeD 541 Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 (edited) I thought you guys would be impressed. In my household I'm famous for browsing in Lowe's and Home Depot just to see what I can come up with. I've already seen my idea posted on gunsnet and I had to point out the fact that it was my idea. I'm telling you, this is going to take off and no one will remember lowly jd1. Indy Arms, I thought the same thing when I popped them in my 20 gauge. Crap! They were made for it! jd1 You have to remember that 2 people invented the telephone at the same time. I bought a converted saiga-12 about 6 months ago that the converter had installed these in. I don't know who converted it. And also, I'm not saying that only one inventor of the telephone was a guiness, they both were. It's just really hard to be the first or only person to think or do something these days. But you do oviously deserve credit here becuase it appears your the first here to bring it to attention. I assumed it was common knowledge here (I bought the saiga off the forum) or I would have put up pics and mentioned it awhile ago. I have 4 converted saiga-12, 1 tig weld, 1 with these, 1 with bolts, and 1 with nothing but holes. I can say that if your not going to tig weld, I would go with these because they do look much better than the bolts or holes. Mike I just looked it up and I bought the saiga from TacticalResponse and it was 7 months ago. Someone should put a thread in the Saiga-12 section letting people know this option. Edited November 9, 2006 by Mike Davidson Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlenderWizard 12 Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 (edited) I'm not saying that only one inventor of the telephone was a guiness Tall, dark, and handsome, eh? Eh, close enough. Edited November 9, 2006 by BlenderWizard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uzitiger 193 Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 I used Chicago screws for my conversion because they retain the spring which holds the trigger and hammer pins (Saiga Shepherd's crook?) and found them at a local hardware store. I've seen the plastic snap pins in the hardware store and if you go that route I suggest you get the black ones instead of painting them. If you can't find the hardware at either Lowe's, Home Depot or the local hardware store then try Fastenall or other fastener dealers. They have a lot of hardware like the U drive screws some people use to build AKs instead of screws or rivets. The U drive screws do work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wildcatter 28 Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 I've used JD1's idea from the start of my conversions. Brilliant. I love it and so do my friends. Thanks, man, for filling an eye-sore in, like, 25,000,000 rifles and shotguns. Wildcatter Dude, and I thought I was cool for coming up with the galil top cover rear sight and welded front idea . If I were you, I would have sold these buggers to the Saiga-12 forum populace for $1.00 apiece. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grendel 0 Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 I picked up a couple bags of these little hole plugs on my last trip to Lowe's.....they fit almost perfectly and look like they were in the holes from the start. This was brilliant, thanks to jd1 for the idea! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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