TronJohn 1 Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Ok I am going to do the Form 1 myself, it seems much quicker and easier this way. So can I just download this Form 1 off the internet, fill it out and send it in with my $200 check? If not, where/how is the easiest way for me to get the Form 1 to fill out? What EXACTLY of my information is going to be engraved on the gun and where is it at? I dont want my entire name and street address on the side of the thing... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emt1581 0 Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Ok I am going to do the Form 1 myself, it seems much quicker and easier this way. So can I just download this Form 1 off the internet, fill it out and send it in with my $200 check? If not, where/how is the easiest way for me to get the Form 1 to fill out? What EXACTLY of my information is going to be engraved on the gun and where is it at? I dont want my entire name and street address on the side of the thing... You have to go to the ATF's site, then go to the NFA forms and put in a request for one. I'd give you the link if I had it but it won't take you but a minute to find it on their site. But what you do is request whatever forms you want, give your address, and they send them to you free....it does take a month or two to get them. I just got mine a few weeks ago and it took about 2 months to get here. -Emt1581 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TX-Zen 287 Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Ok I am going to do the Form 1 myself, it seems much quicker and easier this way. So can I just download this Form 1 off the internet, fill it out and send it in with my $200 check? If not, where/how is the easiest way for me to get the Form 1 to fill out? What EXACTLY of my information is going to be engraved on the gun and where is it at? I dont want my entire name and street address on the side of the thing... You have to go to the ATF's site, then go to the NFA forms and put in a request for one. I'd give you the link if I had it but it won't take you but a minute to find it on their site. But what you do is request whatever forms you want, give your address, and they send them to you free....it does take a month or two to get them. I just got mine a few weeks ago and it took about 2 months to get here. -Emt1581 You can also check out this on arfcom: http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=17&t=257740 ://http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.ht...7&t=257740 It helped me out quite a bit. I went the trust route, so my pair of Krink's are only going to have the name of the trust plus city and state. Z Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emt1581 0 Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 Ok I am going to do the Form 1 myself, it seems much quicker and easier this way. So can I just download this Form 1 off the internet, fill it out and send it in with my $200 check? If not, where/how is the easiest way for me to get the Form 1 to fill out? What EXACTLY of my information is going to be engraved on the gun and where is it at? I dont want my entire name and street address on the side of the thing... You have to go to the ATF's site, then go to the NFA forms and put in a request for one. I'd give you the link if I had it but it won't take you but a minute to find it on their site. But what you do is request whatever forms you want, give your address, and they send them to you free....it does take a month or two to get them. I just got mine a few weeks ago and it took about 2 months to get here. -Emt1581 You can also check out this on arfcom: http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=17&t=257740 ://http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.ht...7&t=257740 ://http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.ht...7&t=257740 It helped me out quite a bit. I went the trust route, so my pair of Krink's are only going to have the name of the trust plus city and state. Z Not to hi-jack but how would I convert my suppressor to a trust? Also, what are the benefits of a trust? Thanks! -Emt1581 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
USMC_LB 4 Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 TronJohn, If you use ATF forms downloaded from the Internet, make sure they are up to date and have the proper spelling. Some dont. Save bet is to go to ATF website and select the files you need. Get a few extras too. Mistakes do happen and you will need to start over. They have to be perfect. They send them to you for free. If you hace any questions please feel free to IM me. LB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TronJohn 1 Posted January 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 So I can actually download the forms from the internet? That would be much quicker... what is the bad of doing that? What exactly of my information gets engraved on the gun, in what order is the information engraved? Is it EXACTLY like this... J.Lutz/Cleveland/Ohio Is it just like that with the slashes and everything? Where is this engraved on the gun? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sunnybean 939 Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 (edited) So I can actually download the forms from the internet? Yes. This is what you seek. Also, you will need to fill out a Certificate of Compliance, which can be found here. Note, you cannot save in these documents. Fill and print only. That would be much quicker... what is the bad of doing that? Nothing. Do yourself a favor and print it on quality acid-free paper. What exactly of my information gets engraved on the gun, in what order is the information engraved? Is it EXACTLY like this... J.Lutz/Cleveland/Ohio Yes just like that. Or, you can abbreviate Ohio to OH. Is it just like that with the slashes and everything? No. You don't need the /'s. You can put it on two lines and use a , b/n Cleveland and OH if you like. Or, you don't have to put a , if that is your preference. There are requirements for size and depth. Do some searching and you can find them. Also, don't take it to the local trophy shop for this. Where is this engraved on the gun? It depends on the gun. It will go on whatever part you are registering (the part that contains the SN). For example, on a AR15 you would engrave the lower receiver. On a HK USC you would engrave the upper receiver. So, on your S12 it will go on the receiver. Some might argue to put it on the barrel. I'd stay away from there and just do it on the above the pistol grip. You need to have it located in an area that is not obstructed. You shouldn't have to dissassemble anything to see it. For example, you can't put it on the inside of the receiever. Or, on a AR, you cannot put it on the trigger gaurd (as it is removable). Do a search for "Orion arms" and you can see where he puts the SBR/SBS engraving. BTW, he does great work. Edited January 24, 2009 by sunnybean Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rightwingnut 0 Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 If you have an etching & stenciling set up can you acid etch the info onto the receiver? So it would look like this: J. Doe Cleveland OH Dont' you have to put the NFA registratino number on there too? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dtom29 0 Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 I downloaded from Titleii.com and had no trouble getting my form 1 approved with a trust. There really is no need to wait on the BATF to get around to sending the forms to you.The trust lets you bypass the fingerprinting and Law Enforcement approval. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emt1581 0 Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 I downloaded from Titleii.com and had no trouble getting my form 1 approved with a trust. There really is no need to wait on the BATF to get around to sending the forms to you.The trust lets you bypass the fingerprinting and Law Enforcement approval. I'd like to read/know more about doing it through a trust. As far as I knew, doing it through a business was the only way to bypass prints and CLEO sign off. Downside to that is if the business ever doesn't exist, neither does your right to own the item. Again, additional info would be much appreciated! Thanks!! -Emt1581 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ocean1 0 Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 (edited) www.guntrustlawyer.com Edited January 27, 2009 by ERIK JOE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ocean1 0 Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 (edited) www.guntrustlawyer.com Edited January 27, 2009 by ERIK JOE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emt1581 0 Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 http://www.titleii.com/ I appreciate the link, but I tried searching "trust" on several pages...zero results. Anywhere in specific I need to look? Thanks! -Emt1581 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ocean1 0 Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ocean1 0 Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 (edited) Edited January 27, 2009 by ERIK JOE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TronJohn 1 Posted January 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 So I can actually download the forms from the internet? Yes. This is what you seek. Also, you will need to fill out a Certificate of Compliance, which can be found here. Note, you cannot save in these documents. Fill and print only. That would be much quicker... what is the bad of doing that? Nothing. Do yourself a favor and print it on quality acid-free paper. What exactly of my information gets engraved on the gun, in what order is the information engraved? Is it EXACTLY like this... J.Lutz/Cleveland/Ohio Yes just like that. Or, you can abbreviate Ohio to OH. Is it just like that with the slashes and everything? No. You don't need the /'s. You can put it on two lines and use a , b/n Cleveland and OH if you like. Or, you don't have to put a , if that is your preference. There are requirements for size and depth. Do some searching and you can find them. Also, don't take it to the local trophy shop for this. Where is this engraved on the gun? It depends on the gun. It will go on whatever part you are registering (the part that contains the SN). For example, on a AR15 you would engrave the lower receiver. On a HK USC you would engrave the upper receiver. So, on your S12 it will go on the receiver. Some might argue to put it on the barrel. I'd stay away from there and just do it on the above the pistol grip. You need to have it located in an area that is not obstructed. You shouldn't have to dissassemble anything to see it. For example, you can't put it on the inside of the receiever. Or, on a AR, you cannot put it on the trigger gaurd (as it is removable). Do a search for "Orion arms" and you can see where he puts the SBR/SBS engraving. BTW, he does great work. hey my friend, the only place I have access is to a printer, and my company has the two links above blocked. can you save me the info in a pdf and send them to me? I will PM you my email. thanks man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Etek 32 Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Link to Lawdepot.com revocable trust form? It's not listed nor under search. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ocean1 0 Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) www.guntrustlawyer.com Edited January 27, 2009 by ERIK JOE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Merlin 0 Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Mr. Howell did my Trust and I am waiting for the stamp to come back now on a SBR. You can also try here for more info; http://www.guntrustlawyer.com Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TronJohn 1 Posted January 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 I got a quote for at trust, lawyer services, llc etc and he said around 4k! how much did you guys spend to set up a trust? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Merlin 0 Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 I got a quote for at trust, lawyer services, llc etc and he said around 4k! how much did you guys spend to set up a trust? What! Who is charging $4K? Mr. Howell charged me $450. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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