avnate 335 Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Yesterday I signed off on production to start Monday on the MSA stock adapter and scheduled to pick up the first batch the following Monday. This batch will consist of 100 pieces which will then need to be anodized. As I had already announced there are drastic improvements over the ACE version. To outline a few I have listed them below. Six point mount. Uses trunnion as well as PG nut to secure as well as the four factory FCG holes. You can rivet or screw in to further secure, if not you can use plugs in the holes to finish out the look. Compatible with Tromix DIY trigger guard. No need to remove material from the block. Corrected angles for future MSA S-12 stock to clear MD20 drum. Clears factory rear trunnion without need to shave front of block down to slide under. Sling attachment point integrated into the adapter. Open face as to not interfere with trigger-guard retaining screw behind/under the FCG. Reduced weight of adapted = reduced rifle weight. Compatible with current stocks and hinges on the market. Improved aesthetics. A little bit more than just the tang gets removed. You shave off just behind the trunnion screw, this trunnion/adapter seam now hides under the top cover to improve looks/finish. Has more of a Galil finish to the back of the receiver when completed. Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eseaton 2 Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Yesterday I signed off on production to start Monday on the MSA stock adapter and scheduled to pick up the first batch the following Monday. This batch will consist of 100 pieces which will then need to be anodized. As I had already announced there are drastic improvements over the ACE version. To outline a few I have listed them below. Six point mount. Uses trunnion as well as PG nut to secure as well as the four factory FCG holes. You can rivet or screw in to further secure, if not you can use plugs in the holes to finish out the look. Compatible with Tromix DIY trigger guard. No need to remove material from the block. Corrected angles for future MSA S-12 stock to clear MD20 drum. Clears factory rear trunnion without need to shave front of block down to slide under. Sling attachment point integrated into the adapter. Open face as to not interfere with trigger-guard retaining screw behind/under the FCG. Reduced weight of adapted = reduced rifle weight. Compatible with current stocks and hinges on the market. Improved aesthetics. A little bit more than just the tang gets removed. You shave off just behind the trunnion screw, this trunnion/adapter seam now hides under the top cover to improve looks/finish. Has more of a Galil finish to the back of the receiver when completed. Thanks I'll take one of the first batch please. E-mail me at esea2000@yahoo.com for price, etc. Thanks eseaton Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stellar Rigs 0 Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 (edited) Yesterday I signed off on production to start Monday on the MSA stock adapter and scheduled to pick up the first batch the following Monday. This batch will consist of 100 pieces which will then need to be anodized. As I had already announced there are drastic improvements over the ACE version. Nathan 100 pcs should go pretty fast. Do you have any images of the prototype? When you say "compatible with other hinge kits" does that mean with trigger group moved forward or factory replacement or both (as with Ace)? Finally, what will be the retail price? Edited February 18, 2009 by Stellar Rigs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jdeitch 32 Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Put me on the list for one of the first batch please. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
avnate 335 Posted February 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 I will be updating the website shortly with the adapter photos and price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
COS 0 Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Very interested in this would also like pics and price... Where can I get on the list for the first 100??? -COS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blurted 0 Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Please put me down for one as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stellar Rigs 0 Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I will be updating the website shortly with the adapter photos and price. Great. Please post a link here when it is done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
avnate 335 Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Pre-production CAD pic added. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaNoobie 66 Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 (edited) added where? Never mind. Added to first post, i see. When will these be available for ordering? ~SN Edited February 19, 2009 by SaigaNoobie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Mark 2,452 Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Reduced weight of adapted = reduced rifle weight. Are these aluminum? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Mark 2,452 Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Reduced weight of adapted = reduced rifle weight. Are these aluminum or steel? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MRboost 0 Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I'm in! Please PM me when they are available for purchase. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Looks great Nate. Couple of questions...What are the ID of the side holes (old FCG), and the sling attachment loops? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OneFunGun 0 Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 I want in too... looks nice Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yellowcarbon 4 Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Does this put the stock at the correct angle (like the Tromix conversion) so the stock doesn't look like it's at a weird angle? Either way, I will take one. Can you post a link to your listing on your site when you get it up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
52brandon 0 Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 very cool Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hktome 1 Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 WOW !! I want !! was just about to buy an ace" cut that tang "adapter- adding the old trigger holes to yours is a big plus IMO!- 12 gauge is hell on everything , including blue loctite! you guys are on my watch list -very innovative Quote Link to post Share on other sites
avnate 335 Posted February 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Ok a few answers ............. We did add 3 degrees to the rear to correct the angle. They are CNC 6061 Aluminum. Holes are currently the same diameter as the stock FCG holes. This was decided for those doing rivets, it can be threaded if needed. I am trying to keep the pricing in the $40-45 range. I will have more information after we start running full swing to see what actual machine time is as that affects final price. Also due to getting my ass plowed under by the constant barrage of emails on the AR adapters I do not have time to answer emails about the stock adapter so please be patient. I am working as fast as I can with all the projects going on at this time like a S-12 mag adapter that is both stick and MD-20 drum compatible..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrWho 10 Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 will you be selling a push button hing for a fold able stock? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hobbyshooter 59 Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 That's a really nice looking piece. Sounds like great functional design. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
avnate 335 Posted February 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 will you be selling a push button hing for a fold able stock? I am looking at a current Galil style folding mech with some tweaks. I have a few push button renderings from my CAD guys and found them to be unattractive as I am not a fan of big and bulky. There is still one push button file that is being tweaked on that I liked and awaiting it's revision. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evollep3 0 Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 i am definately in it for one! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
avnate 335 Posted February 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 i am definately in it for one! The ISA has been added to the website..... Due to structural weakness testing today as well as an attempt to reduce machining time to meet a reasonable price the sling loops have been removed. If we added more material in this would have adversely affected the folding ability of any bolt on folding mech. Since ACE adapter already has provisions for a sling attachment, as well as our modeled hinge, it was decided to be removed. Current finished adapters will get revised, when the batch is ready at the beginning of the week, will be anodized. Shipping is slated for the week of the 9th. Due to current production bottlenecks, with the only anodizer in the area, we allotted a full week for the task to be done. Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Whaledriver 0 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Ordered mine!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goingpro 2 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 so with this piece i can add the tromix stock without any welding correct? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
avnate 335 Posted February 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 so with this piece i can add the tromix stock without any welding correct? That is correct....... Just shave off your rear tang and bolt up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blurted 0 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Thanks for the heads up, just place my order for one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cujo 0 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Put me in for one too! Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
auradefect 5 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 (edited) Just what I was looking for, thanks for making this! I just ordered one. This should make converting with the Tromix DIY much easier! Edited February 28, 2009 by Westforth Sports Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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