t-amzn 0 Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Oh no!! If this passed I would only have 4 yrs. left to protect myself and my family. Good sheep, BAHHHHH- For all you veterans over age 60, if you are a gun enthusiast or just a self-protectionist, you might be interested in this tid-bit of gossip around Washington . Guns to Be Banned for Elderly Staff Reports, UPI Washington Deputy Attorney General Designate David Ogden is circulating a draft of an executive order in which, among other things, firearms possession would be severely limited to people over age 60. An assistant to Ogden told us, "It appears that in these changing times, it is no longer necessary to allow the elderly to be armed. With all of their physical ailments and increasing senility, to leave them in control of a deadly weapon would be foolish." While the Executive Order may sound too powerful, experts in Constitutional law state that it is not actually un-Constitutional. "It's a question of wording." states Columbia Law Professor, Dr. John Braxton. "The Constitution forbids the Congress, that is, the legislative branch, from passing any laws infringing on gun ownership. The executive branch is not included in this proviso. As long as the Congress doesn't get involved, it's technically a non-issue." The Justice Departmentwas tossing the idea of a gun ban for seniors during the Carter and Clinton Administration, but public opinion stopped these initiatives. Now, the Obama White House believes differently. An unnamed aide close to Ogden agreed to talk on the condition of anonymity. "Clinton and Carter didn't have as much of a mandate as President Obama. They were both Southerners, and the Second Amendment was sacrosanct to their constituents. However, President Obama comes from a new sort of politics, where divisive issues like firearms do not apply to him." "Quite frankly, it's a shame that no one has had the good conscience to have done this already. It's a simple process, and the majority of the American people will understand it and follow the law." The enforcement mechanism for this particular executive order has not been published. It is likely that the confiscation of weapons will be similar to Great Britain 's handgun ban, in which citizens willingly gave the weapons to police. It is expected that the executive order will be given around July 1, when senior-related gun deaths reach their peaks. The aide to Ogden stated: "For eight years you see the rolling back of regulation, and crime has skyrocketed. In fact, in Massachusetts alone, murders have risen 50% since 2002. Armed robbery has also risen dramatically. With such circumstances, we must act boldly." Folks, I can't help but ask, "How much of this crime was committed by people over 60?" And how much of this crime was committed on people over 60 who are unarmed? And, how many peace officers will have to retire because they are over 60? Where is the END to this insanity? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan 2,343 Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 (edited) Oh no!! If this passed I would only have 4 yrs. left to protect myself and my family. Good sheep, BAHHHHH- For all you veterans over age 60, if you are a gun enthusiast or just a self-protectionist, you might be interested in this tid-bit of gossip around Washington . Guns to Be Banned for Elderly Staff Reports, UPI Washington Deputy Attorney General Designate David Ogden is circulating a draft of an executive order in which, among other things, firearms possession would be severely limited to people over age 60. An assistant to Ogden told us, "It appears that in these changing times, it is no longer necessary to allow the elderly to be armed. With all of their physical ailments and increasing senility, to leave them in control of a deadly weapon would be foolish." While the Executive Order may sound too powerful, experts in Constitutional law state that it is not actually un-Constitutional. "It's a question of wording." states Columbia Law Professor, Dr. John Braxton. "The Constitution forbids the Congress, that is, the legislative branch, from passing any laws infringing on gun ownership. The executive branch is not included in this proviso. As long as the Congress doesn't get involved, it's technically a non-issue." The Justice Departmentwas tossing the idea of a gun ban for seniors during the Carter and Clinton Administration, but public opinion stopped these initiatives. Now, the Obama White House believes differently. An unnamed aide close to Ogden agreed to talk on the condition of anonymity. "Clinton and Carter didn't have as much of a mandate as President Obama. They were both Southerners, and the Second Amendment was sacrosanct to their constituents. However, President Obama comes from a new sort of politics, where divisive issues like firearms do not apply to him." "Quite frankly, it's a shame that no one has had the good conscience to have done this already. It's a simple process, and the majority of the American people will understand it and follow the law." The enforcement mechanism for this particular executive order has not been published. It is likely that the confiscation of weapons will be similar to Great Britain 's handgun ban, in which citizens willingly gave the weapons to police. It is expected that the executive order will be given around July 1, when senior-related gun deaths reach their peaks. The aide to Ogden stated: "For eight years you see the rolling back of regulation, and crime has skyrocketed. In fact, in Massachusetts alone, murders have risen 50% since 2002. Armed robbery has also risen dramatically. With such circumstances, we must act boldly." Folks, I can't help but ask, "How much of this crime was committed by people over 60?" And how much of this crime was committed on people over 60 who are unarmed? And, how many peace officers will have to retire because they are over 60? Where is the END to this insanity? Trust me. This is nothing more than a rumor and it has already been thoroughly debunked by the NRA. You can go to the NRA website and see for yourself. I never believed it anyway. It was just so preposterous in so many ways. Edited February 24, 2009 by DogMan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolverine 10,360 Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 The best thing every one of us can do is join the NRA. If you have been holding out for whatever reason, take the leap now and send a message to Washington. I just signed up for a five year hitch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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