XXasdf 29 Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Hi I am a newbie to the Saiga12 forums. I have been reading up on muzzle brake options for my newly purchased 16" saiga .308. I have read several posts that describe some options regarding this, but I haven't had any definitive answers. Since threading is not an option for me I am looking for a Slip on or pin on option. I've also checked out dinzags site and he has said he does not offer a pin on brake for the saiga .308. Although he does have thread adapters on his site but i am assuming they are for barrels that are already threaded. I am not familiar with muzzle brakes and threading so any info or recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance and Hello!!! to the Saiga12.com community . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SanSacto 1 Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Not many options for the .308 as far as I know. Leave it be or thread the barrel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vintagedude88 16 Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 I've looked all over the net myself for the same answer. Only thing possible is the DPH clip on that supposedly is coming soon. So far it is available for the .223 and 7.62x39. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XXasdf 29 Posted February 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 I received an email from Dinzag regarding a screw on adapter but he has since discontinued it. Guess I'm boned, thanks for the info. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
protected static 19 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 I seem to remember seeing pin-on FAL and M14/M1A1 brakes out there... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unclejake 428 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 DPH is currently working on a muzzlebreak for the .308. They have them for the .223 and the x39. I can't wait until they get it in production! It is so easy to install without pins or threading the barrel. Go to the 223 forum and check it out. I have a thread there as well as one more. Greg at carolinashootersupply.com has the one for the 223, you can get an idea of how there made there. It is a two piece operation with one piece that is male threaded that clips over the front sight post and the break is female threaded and screws onto it. A solid, well built unit! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gpqueen 545 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 DPH is currently working on a muzzlebreak for the .308. They have them for the .223 and the x39. I can't wait until they get it in production! It is so easy to install without pins or threading the barrel. Go to the 223 forum and check it out. I have a thread there as well as one more. Greg at carolinashootersupply.com has the one for the 223, you can get an idea of how there made there. It is a two piece operation with one piece that is male threaded that clips over the front sight post and the break is female threaded and screws onto it. A solid, well built unit! They will probably be similar to the 223. We will have them as soon as they are available. Greg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mitch'SS 2 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Will it be secure enough for suppressor use? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ogar Lumox 1 Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Could a AK74 front sight block with the 24mm threads be fitted so that any 24mm break used? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ogar Lumox 1 Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Could a AK74 front sight block with the 24mm threads be fitted so that any 24mm break used? Might need to drill out the OD of the sight or turn down the barrel OD. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kingjoey 5 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 We make our KA-1230 brake/suppressor in 4 different pin-on varieties, what is the muzzle diameter of your Saiga? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XXasdf 29 Posted March 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 I'll measure it when I get back from work or I'll have to wait until tomorrow. Since its a pin on brake I would have to move my FSB back correct? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
deadduck357 0 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Im glad you have started this thread, reading and waiting intently. Why hasnt someone just made an AK74 type FSB with a threaded bell with pin holes in the same place that are on the 308 Saigas ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XXasdf 29 Posted March 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 (edited) Muzzle diameter is 0.671". Edited March 7, 2009 by XXasdf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
2450paul 12 Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 Hi I am a newbie to the Saiga12 forums. I have been reading up on muzzle brake options for my newly purchased 16" saiga .308. I have read several posts that describe some options regarding this, but I haven't had any definitive answers. Since threading is not an option for me I am looking for a Slip on or pin on option. I've also checked out dinzags site and he has said he does not offer a pin on brake for the saiga .308. Although he does have thread adapters on his site but i am assuming they are for barrels that are already threaded. I am not familiar with muzzle brakes and threading so any info or recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance and Hello!!! to the Saiga12.com community . I'm interested as well! I talked to Joe at King Armory today and he said if you guys showed enough interest it may be something they could tool up and make. I also just posted a Poll to see how much interest in a brake with a front sight base and a brake without. I'd prefer the brake without myself as my Saiga .308 would only be shot with a scope, and I like the cleaner look. But some folks like the iron sight option. Joe and another machinist I talked to who is familiar with the Saiga barrel both said the same thing, it's not a piece of cake to thread one. Take you pick in the Poll and lets see if we can make this happen. Thanks, Paul Quote Link to post Share on other sites
us_dragunov 11 Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 (edited) I pull this out again for interest. The top one is Russian Izhmash made for the Saiga-308. Just un-pin and press off your old FSB and press and pin this one on. Edited March 18, 2009 by us_dragunov Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XXasdf 29 Posted March 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 I pull this out again for interest. The top one is Russian Izhmash made for the Saiga-308. Just un-pin and press off your old FSB and press and pin this one on. I can't seem to find these anywhere, RAA's main site doesnt offer them either. Thanks for the pics tho gives me a general idea of what they look like w the FSB. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
deadduck357 0 Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 someone needs to come out with something like this just better or with a threaded end to attach whatever brake or flash suppressor desired Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE VILLIAN 55 Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) DPH is currently working on a muzzlebreak for the .308. They have them for the .223 and the x39. I can't wait until they get it in production! It is so easy to install without pins or threading the barrel. Go to the 223 forum and check it out. I have a thread there as well as one more. Greg at carolinashootersupply.com has the one for the 223, you can get an idea of how there made there. It is a two piece operation with one piece that is male threaded that clips over the front sight post and the break is female threaded and screws onto it. A solid, well built unit! They will probably be similar to the 223. We will have them as soon as they are available. Greg So was this ever made for the .308? We make our KA-1230 brake/suppressor in 4 different pin-on varieties, what is the muzzle diameter of your Saiga? are these still being made and is there one available for .308 Edited July 23, 2012 by THE VILLAIN 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steveo2 0 Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 I'd buy one!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
w1r343ad 0 Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 I recently purchased the SGM Tactical bolt on muzzle brake only to find out after purchase that the rifle must have a minimum of 3/16ths" of muzzle in front of the FSB. Otherwise they say do not install it. Mine is completely flush. I am awaiting a response from the dealer on how to proceed, in the meantime I thought I would post here for any advice/opinion from anyone who might know somthing about this. The installation went perfectly and the fit seems flawless. As contrasted to those posts I have read from people whose rifles are supposedly "ready". They are saying how they have to beat on it savagely with a rubber mallet, machine metal from the back of the FSB to fit the retaining bracket etc. It seems this product is a bit "early". They will be no doubt making some modifications to its design to favor one rifle config or the other. The way I see it my choices are to return it and modify my barrel to accept a thread on muzzle brake or to perform nearly the same amount of mods to my rifle in order to make it work with this device. If anyone has insights into this I would welcome your response. I have seen that Dinzag Arms offer a service to modify the FSB "one pin back". It seems to me that if you ream out the FSB to allow it to slide backward over the bulge, wouldn't that leave too much slop on the front end? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
308 Vepr 0 Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Sorry to bring back an old thread but I have a question for you guys. I recently bought a shop converted saiga 308 with a long Tromix brake/suppressor which is pinned on. In doing this they removed the front sight...are there any options to put one back on? Here are some pics...the saiga is the one laying down of course..I will post some better ones when I get home... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunman1 1,753 Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 I would definitely be interested in a break for the .308. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Ive seen one somewhere that attaches to the gas block, cant for the life of me figure out where. Post a query in the General section see if any one knows. Sure SR would be short but its only a backup anyway in practical terms. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
308 Vepr 0 Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Ive seen one somewhere that attaches to the gas block, cant for the life of me figure out where. Post a query in the General section see if any one knows. Sure SR would be short but its only a backup anyway in practical terms. Would not mind that at all, pretty much expected. That is what my Vepr has too. Just think that not having a BU of some kind is a bad idea...will post some better pics soon now that it is weekend. Really cool suppressor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netpackrat 566 Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 Sorry to bring back an old thread but I have a question for you guys. I recently bought a shop converted saiga 308 with a long Tromix brake/suppressor which is pinned on. In doing this they removed the front sight...are there any options to put one back on? Here are some pics...the saiga is the one laying down of course..I will post some better ones when I get home... That sucks, they kind of screwed you there. The S308 front sight block is unique and basically made of unobtainium. It has the largest ID of any AK FSB (so far as I am aware) where it goes around the barrel, so nothing else will work. If you bought it from the shop that did the work, I would see if they still have the FSB. They probably chucked it or sold it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
308 Vepr 0 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 I Agree it sucks they did this, making it pretty mandatory for an optic of some kind..If I knew what shop the guy had this done at I would for sure ask if they had it.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sirex 34 Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 (edited) FWIW, after I heard rumors of the slip on brakes flying off, I had mine spot welded to the FSB by my gunsmith. Pretty tight, solid, and if it should need to be removed, just a small grind here and there. I also opened up one port just a tad. Touched up with some black paint and put thru 100 rds of .308 silver bear. Haven't shot since last fall, but hope to this spring. To cold and remote at the range.No Dunkin Donuts close by. Edited March 22, 2014 by Sirex Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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