Wotan1105 7 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 (edited) Now we're going to put the ban in place, to save Mexico "at minimum". No Comment but get ready. He makes "a few gun-related changes" sound like they aren't pissing all over the Constitution and our rights. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=6960824&page=1 By JASON RYAN WASHINGTON, Feb. 25, 2009 The Obama administration will seek to reinstate the assault weapons ban that expired in 2004 during the Bush administration, Attorney General Eric Holder said today. PHOTO Wednesday Attorney General Eric Holder said that the Obama administration will seek to reinstitute the assault weapons ban which expired in 2004 during the Bush administration. Wednesday Attorney General Eric Holder said that the Obama administration will seek to reinstitute the assault weapons ban which expired in 2004 during the Bush administration. (AP Photos/ABC News Graphic ) "As President Obama indicated during the campaign, there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons," Holder told reporters. Holder said that putting the ban back in place would not only be a positive move by the United States, it would help cut down on the flow of guns going across the border into Mexico, which is struggling with heavy violence among drug cartels along the border. "I think that will have a positive impact in Mexico, at a minimum." Holder said at a news conference on the arrest of more than 700 people in a drug enforcement crackdown on Mexican drug cartels operating in the U.S. Related Obama Election Sparks Gun Sales Gun Laws Across Nation Face Scrutiny Gun Control Group Braces for Court Loss Mexican government officials have complained that the availability of sophisticated guns from the United States have emboldened drug traffickers to fight over access routes into the U.S. A State Department travel warning issued Feb. 20, 2009, reflected government concerns about the violence. "Some recent Mexican army and police confrontations with drug cartels have resembled small-unit combat, with cartels employing automatic weapons and grenades," the warning said. "Large firefights have taken place in many towns and cities across Mexico, but most recently in northern Mexico, including Tijuana, Chihuahua City and Ciudad Juarez." At the news conference today, Holder described his discussions with his Mexican counterpart about the recent spike in violence. "I met yesterday with Attorney General Medina Mora of Mexico, and we discussed the unprecedented levels of violence his country is facing because of their enforcement efforts," he said. Holder declined to offer any time frame for the reimplementation of the assault weapons ban, however. "It's something, as I said, that the president talked about during the campaign," he said. "There are obviously a number of things that are -- that have been taking up a substantial amount of his time, and so, I'm not sure exactly what the In a brief interview with ABC News, Wayne LaPierre, president of the National Rifle Association, said, "I think there are a lot of Democrats on Capitol Hill cringing at Eric Holder's comments right now." During his confirmation hearing, Holder told the Senate Judiciary Committee about other gun control measures the Obama administration may consider. Related ATF: Phoenix Gun Dealer Supplied Mexican Drug Cartels U.S. Guns Arming Mexican Drug Gangs; Second Amendment to Blame? "I think closing the gun show loophole, the banning of cop-killer bullets and I also think that making the assault weapons ban permanent, would be something that would be permitted under Heller," Holder said, referring to the Supreme Court ruling in Washington, D.C. v. Heller, which asserted the Second Amendment as an individual's right to own a weapon. The Assault Weapons Ban signed into law by President Clinton in 1994 banned 19 types of semi-automatic military-style guns and ammunition clips with more than 10 rounds. "A semi-automatic is a quintessential self-defense firearm owned by American citizens in this country," LaPierre said. "I think it is clearly covered under Heller and it's clearly, I think, protected by the Constitution." Edited February 26, 2009 by Wotan1105 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ynotaz 0 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 I hope some org. NRA or GOA grows a pair and sues over this before we get a Supreme Court full of libs! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wotan1105 7 Posted February 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 We new it was coming, unfortunately it will get through like it or not. I can't say I'm shocked he's selling it as a way to help Mexico and decrease the violence on the border, I didn't see that angle coming. Just hope I have enough time to go get some extra Saiga's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Fuck Mexico! The US just needs to enforce firearms laws already on the books. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
read_the_wall 614 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 "Some recent Mexican army and police confrontations with drug cartels have resembled small-unit combat, with cartels employing .....automatic weapons and grenades," the warning said. "Large firefights have taken place in many towns and cities across Mexico, but most recently in northern Mexico, including Tijuana, Chihuahua City and Ciudad Juarez." automatic weapons and grenades???????????really??????????is that part of the awb?????? piss on them and on mexico. If they can't take care of the border problem, send in the Marines for crying out loud....... ok, I'm done... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rocketman 1 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 In "94 it was for the children Now it's for Mexico. Anyone want to venture a guess as to what the UN's posture on small arms proliferation is? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SOPMOD 254 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 They are fucking liars.I have been watching Mexican news videos for 2 weeks and all of the guns being used by the Narco Terrorists are old,full auto AKs that don't look like commerical US stuff at all and more recently Mexican Army FX05 Assault Rifles(Mexico's G36 clone). This is a bullshit psych job,if American guns are on the street down there it's for resale to the peasants not for use by the Narco-Terrorists! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wotan1105 7 Posted February 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 In "94 it was for the children Now it's for Mexico. Anyone want to venture a guess as to what the UN's posture on small arms proliferation is? Maybe the Mountain Pygmy Possum is under threat from small arms proliferation, we can stomp out all guns to protect the poor pygmy possum. Or maybe the Bruneau Hot Springsnail needs protection from assault weapons too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bounce12 407 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 (edited) They are fucking liars.I have been watching Mexican news videos for 2 weeks and all of the guns being used by the Narco Terrorists are old,full auto AKs that don't look like commerical US stuff at all and more recently Mexican Army FX05 Assault Rifles(Mexico's G36 clone). This is a bullshit psych job,if American guns are on the street down there it's for resale to the peasants not for use by the Narco-Terrorists! Hear, here, SOPMOD. You nailed it. It's NOT that weapons are going across the border IN TO MEXICO! It's that they're COMING ACROSS the border FROM MEXICO! All any weapons ban will do is prevent law-abiding Americans from protecting themselves. Edited February 26, 2009 by Bounce12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kingjoey 5 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Can we start shooting yet, can we? Why the fuck did we go to Korea, Vietnam, and everywhere else to fight the spread of communism just to let the Kenyan Surprise and his Chicago cronies turn this country over to communism? I look forward to seeing every one of these shit-eating communists hung or shot in the near future. These bastards think that Americans are just going to stand there while they turn us into a 3rd-World socialist country while lining their own pockets. Its time to take these fuckers who can't seem to understand the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 10th, 14th, etc Amendments out to the gallows and dispose of them properly. Considering that we sent enough small arms into Nicaragua and Colombia to field a large army, why would drug cartels come here to try to buy a $700 WASR-1 when they could buy a select-fire Norinco or M16 in Central America for a lot, lot less? Also, it seems to me that if the US and Mexican gov'ts would SECURE THE GODDAMN BORDER WE WOULD GET RID OF A LOT OF PROBLEMS FUCK OBAMA, FUCK HOLDER, FUCK PELOSI, FUCK SCHUMER, FUCK EMMANUEL, FUCK MCCAIN, FUCK THEM ALL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
t-amzn 0 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 We new it was coming, unfortunately it will get through like it or not. I can't say I'm shocked he's selling it as a way to help Mexico and decrease the violence on the border, I didn't see that angle coming. Just hope I have enough time to go get some extra Saiga's. Yea, I don't think we are surprised about this, and most likely farther reaching. The Mexico angle is an interesting facilitator though. Get ready. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
U.S. Pratorean 1,234 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 They are fucking liars.I have been watching Mexican news videos for 2 weeks and all of the guns being used by the Narco Terrorists are old,full auto AKs that don't look like commerical US stuff at all and more recently Mexican Army FX05 Assault Rifles(Mexico's G36 clone). This is a bullshit psych job,if American guns are on the street down there it's for resale to the peasants not for use by the Narco-Terrorists! What is not a" bullshit psych job". Look at the trillion dollar debt they just BS'd us on. BE advised, These communist MF's got until Nov. 2010 to totally screw you, me an 75% of the rest of us until they lose power. It will be a feeding frenzy. Hell it already is. This means multiple UNCONSTITUTIONAL laws passed, exorbitant overtaxation, and any other shit YOU thought would only be a pipe dream will now become reality. Barry gets on TV and the sheep say " damn, he is soooo intelligent, how did we survive without him". Soon they will control the internet and while you will easily be able to see and download any sick fukin' child porn, websites like this will be illegal. 1st and 2nd amendments means only what they say they mean. This is what I mean by pipe dream becoming reality. Be prepared. And the liberal assholes were worried about repubs trampling their rights. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 LOL I already heard all about the AWB from this guy: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jangles 2 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 May I suggest that along with bitching and moaning on this site that you all write your congressmen and women as well as any Reps that you may know of? Tell THEM what you think instead of us because we already know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blam 4 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Mexican Cartels? We wont enforce the borders so we need a Semi Auto Rifle ban to protect Mexicans from their Cartels? What an idiotic excuse. If we had nothing but vast oceans below the US border, the democrats would still seek to strip us of our Constitutionally protected rights. Mexico is just a piss poor excuse holder and his fellow democrat commie assholes use as another excuse. The political agenda is to destroy capitalism, create dependency on government programs, nationalize the private economy, regulate and strip away individual liberties. Liberty means nothing to the American public now. Every time our kenyan president utters a sound, and speaks of growing government and creating dependence, its "historical", not marxist. We used to fight communism all over the globe to only put democrats in charge here. They are going to strip us of our natural rights, and I really dont think we can stop them. The enemies of Liberty are in control, I dont how much individual Liberty will be left when pelosi, reid and obama are done, but my guess is not much. Time to water the tree of Liberty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uzitiger 193 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Obama is an Al Qaeda sleeper agent planted in the White House. His rise from community organizer whatever the fuck that means to President was too fast. It had to be financed with Arab money from the Saudis and Islamic money from Iran. Now he wants to disarm us so his Hamas relatives can come into the US as refugees and get benefits at our expense while we are legislated into a defenseless position so they can terrorize us with impunity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
read_the_wall 614 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Can we start shooting yet, can we? Why the fuck did we go to Korea, Vietnam, and everywhere else to fight the spread of communism just to let the Kenyan Surprise and his Chicago cronies turn this country over to communism? I look forward to seeing every one of these shit-eating communists hung or shot in the near future. These bastards think that Americans are just going to stand there while they turn us into a 3rd-World socialist country while lining their own pockets. Its time to take these fuckers who can't seem to understand the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 10th, 14th, etc Amendments out to the gallows and dispose of them properly. Considering that we sent enough small arms into Nicaragua and Colombia to field a large army, why would drug cartels come here to try to buy a $700 WASR-1 when they could buy a select-fire Norinco or M16 in Central America for a lot, lot less? Also, it seems to me that if the US and Mexican gov'ts would SECURE THE GODDAMN BORDER WE WOULD GET RID OF A LOT OF PROBLEMS FUCK OBAMA, FUCK HOLDER, FUCK PELOSI, FUCK SCHUMER, FUCK EMMANUEL, FUCK MCCAIN, FUCK THEM ALL Don't pussy foot around and hold back,,,,tell us how you really feel..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Update: http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/pelosi...2009-02-26.html Yakdung Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wheel 0 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Update: http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/pelosi...2009-02-26.html Yakdung WOW.. .A favorable response from Pelosi? What is this? the Twilight Zone? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kingjoey 5 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Update: http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/pelosi...2009-02-26.html Yakdung WOW.. .A favorable response from Pelosi? What is this? the Twilight Zone? Not a favorable response, they are simply repositioning. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kingjoey 5 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Don't pussy foot around and hold back,,,,tell us how you really feel..... I can't do that here, it would require lots of profanity interrupted by random bursts of automatic fire. I'll be sure to post it on YouTube for you if I ever decide to really rant Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Pate 478 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Don't pussy foot around and hold back,,,,tell us how you really feel..... I can't do that here, it would require lots of profanity interrupted by random bursts of automatic fire. I'll be sure to post it on YouTube for you if I ever decide to really rant I like this man's style. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pointer 21 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 One way or another theres going to be a ban,they will slip it in with another bill as a trade off to get the Republicans votes.....Im tired of this shit,one day somethings gotta give..and it wont be pretty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jangles 2 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 What the hell is wrong with Pelosi?? She laid last week?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
read_the_wall 614 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Don't pussy foot around and hold back,,,,tell us how you really feel..... I can't do that here, it would require lots of profanity interrupted by random bursts of automatic fire. I'll be sure to post it on YouTube for you if I ever decide to really rant Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Twinsen 86 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Somebody show me proof of a mexican citizen (that doesn't have dual citizenship) walking into an American gun store and buying a gun. I will shoot myself in the head after witnessing it. It will NEVER happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
avnate 335 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Shocked is all I can say about Pelosi........... This just doesn't fit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Vigilante 14 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 The guns are straw-purchased by U.S. citizens and then smuggled into Mexico! Somebody show me proof of a mexican citizen (that doesn't have dual citizenship) walking into an American gun store and buying a gun. I will shoot myself in the head after witnessing it. It will NEVER happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Folkien 0 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Shocked is all I can say about Pelosi........... This just doesn't fit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vultite 57 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 no matter what they say, they could claim that the AWB will cure the world of cancer, and give people super human strength. It wouldn't matter, because the agenda WILL be passed no matter what, republican's have virtually no say in this, it will happen no matter how much you bitch or complain. I know, I sound like i'm just "laying down" like a pussy, but you know what? I know I can't do a fucking thing, the people that have been appointed are in place to do what they will, we're just here to deal with it until another administration undoes all the horrible things going in place right now. Frankly, i'm much more worried about other things then just a AWB, because if it's anything like the previous ban, i don't care. So what I can't have a bayonet lug, so what If my flash suppressor or muzzle brake has to be pinned on. W/E, the guns will always be there, now if they try to collect guns to destroy them, that's another issue. I'm sick of it, I got things to worry about like where I'm gonna live this summer and likely 25% of the guys I work with will not have a job or not get the hours they need. Right now I'm getting 36 hours a week where I used to get 60 so we don't lay off any guys, YET. My job isn't recession proof, or depression proof. EMS personnel are getting no raises, and getting shit on whether we have unions or not. This summer when the snowbirds go back home, I will get fucked out of my house or my friends will. Right now its a sit and wait country. Sit and wait for the worst that has yet to come. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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