bigsal 757 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Someone on the akforum said that all the 2009-2010 saigas imported will have mag well dimples. Does anyone know if this is true? Or do I have to email RAAC.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gtnichols 51 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 Email them and let me know too, can you even get a 16" x39 any more??, ask them that too,.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vultite 57 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I wouldn't believe anything unless it came from RAA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wlnt 2 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I just bought an 08' 7.62 Saiga with dimples and the pistol grip hole is already cut. This is a change. It may be true that Saiga is going to use all dimpled receivers. louielouie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saigafan2008 0 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 I bought an '08 7.62x39 saiga this last October, and it doesn't have the dimples. It does have the PG hole, though. Sure made doing my conversion much easier! FYI, my wife's '08 saiga .410 has the PG hole, too. Carl Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigsal 757 Posted February 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 OK I just shot an email to RAAC. Maybe they have an answer. Im hoping to pick up a few like louielouie was lucky enough to snag. I really don't want to drop the kind of cash needed for one of those arsenal inc imports with dimples..... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HarvKY 72 Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 I just bought an 08' 7.62 Saiga with dimples and the pistol grip hole is already cut. This is a change. It may be true that Saiga is going to use all dimpled receivers. louielouie Hey Louie, Is yours a regular Saiga with an "08 serial number or one of the Arsenals? Thanx HarvKY Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wlnt 2 Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 I just bought an 08' 7.62 Saiga with dimples and the pistol grip hole is already cut. This is a change. It may be true that Saiga is going to use all dimpled receivers. louielouie Hey Louie, Is yours a regular Saiga with an "08 serial number or one of the Arsenals? Thanx HarvKY HarvKY, Mine is a regular Saiga with an 08' serial number. louielouie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unclejake 428 Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 How do you tell about the serial number? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigsal 757 Posted March 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 WOW, Looks like dimples are a go! Here is their response to me when I asked about 7.62 and 223 saiga's: Hi <My Real Name Removed>, We are being told by the factory that we will get dimpled receivers starting in our next contract. I can only relay that information along. We will not know for sure until we recive the weapons. We don't have any connection to the arsenal Saigas. Clyde Woods Sales & Marketing RAAC Wow This is great! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PRISONSHANK 70 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 don't suppose anyone has heard when this contract is due to hit the states? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigsal 757 Posted March 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 don't suppose anyone has heard when this contract is due to hit the states? Sorry I forgot to mention that. When I emailed the guy he said they have another 3 months on their current contract. So by July or August I hope they will be with distributors and stocking dealers. Again, not sure exactly, but they did say three months left on the current deal. Hope that helps! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vultite 57 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 boy, this is gonna be a rough year, everyone is releasing fun stuff this year, but at the same time, the ban is on the horizon, i just hope my orders come in soon enough... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mstranglr 9 Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 My local shop just got a shipment of 09s in today. ALL OF THEM have dimples! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imarangemaster 315 Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 All of the ones my local shop gets in now have dimples, also. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phoenix Maximus 1 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 my 09 has dimples, has a PG hole and yes it's 16" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fxhart 14 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Excellent news! I just so happen to be in the market for one... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThirtyCal 0 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 (edited) I bought an '08 7.62x39 saiga this last October, and it doesn't have the dimples. It does have the PG hole, though. Sure made doing my conversion much easier! FYI, my wife's '08 saiga .410 has the PG hole, too. Carl I went through a stack of six 7.62's at the PDX show last week. There were four '09's and two '08's. Of the six, only one had dimples, and it was an '08. Thirtycal Edited June 23, 2009 by ThirtyCal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paladin_Hammer 8 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I'm still wondering. What's so great about dimples? What about them enhances the rifles? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lakedweller 10 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I was told that the dimples strengthened the metal, like cross breaks strengthen the sheet metal used to run the main runs in your homes heating system. I think they are more cosmetic then useful. Some guys on this forum get all giddy for dimples. I say "I don't need no stinking dimples"..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I'm still wondering. What's so great about dimples? What about them enhances the rifles? They make the rifles look more authentic and strengthen the receiver a bit. They play a small part in mag-fit but are by no means essential. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imarangemaster 315 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I was told that the dimples strengthened the metal, like cross breaks strengthen the sheet metal used to run the main runs in your homes heating system. I think they are more cosmetic then useful. Some guys on this forum get all giddy for dimples. I say "I don't need no stinking dimples"..... +1 Neither my Saiga 7.62x39 or my GP WASR 10/63 have dimples. Both run flawlessly and have minimal mag wiggle! Dimples are good for resale, but I don't plan on selling! :haha: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mstranglr 9 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 The dimples are not to stop mag wobble as many believe. They are "coin marks". Coining strengthens the weak point of the receiver, the mag well opening. The Russians often carry and fire holding the mag, use the mag as a bipod, strike opponents with the mag, drop rifles on the mag, break out windows with the mag, and those long mags often snag on just about anything - so the mag well area was strengthened to better deal with the additional stresses. Coining is a very common technique used in the steel stamping industry. Honestly though, I don't see anyone abusing an undimpled receiver to the point of failure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sicktooth 8 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 So the un-coined Saiga receivers will soon be extinct...interesting... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Broseph 0 Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Oh man now I really gotta get a saiga!I was gonna get one either way dimples or not but the dimples just sweeten the deal.Maybe the Manufacturer realized customers want this feature and I doubt it adds much if anything to production cost. There's guys out here on a local for sale forum (California) asking a premium for dimpled saigas.Seems like the prices (at least online) have gone down a bit too,around 350-375 range.This is all good news for guys like me looking to buy their first saiga.So if a saiga has dimples is it also a sure thing that it'll have the PG hole cutout? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fxhart 14 Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 [snip] ...strike opponents with the mag... break out windows with the mag... [/snip] Ooh. That's worth some experimentation! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 So if a saiga has dimples is it also a sure thing that it'll have the PG hole cutout? From what I've read here, these new imports with dimples do have PG holes pre-cut. But myself, along with many others here, who have '06 dimpled receivers, do not have the PG hole pre-cut. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Broseph 0 Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 So if a saiga has dimples is it also a sure thing that it'll have the PG hole cutout? From what I've read here, these new imports with dimples do have PG holes pre-cut. But myself, along with many others here, who have '06 dimpled receivers, do not have the PG hole pre-cut. Ok thanks shooter.I had assumed that if their were dimples the PG hole was also a given,but apparently before this new mid-09' shipment it was just a random thing and their was no way of knowing unless you took a look inside.Alright now to decide if I should buy 1 or 2 saiga. Oh and by the way even though I'm in Cali I'm definitely doing a conversion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Alright now to decide if I should buy 1 or 2 saiga. Add those together, and get 3!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uzitiger 193 Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 What's the bid deal about dimpled receivers? Mine doesn't have dimples yet it works flawlessly as Mikhail Kalashnikov designed it to work. The front trunnion and magazine opening hold the magazine in place solidly anyway. Are the dimples solutions to a non existent problem? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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