lbsrdi 1,078 Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 I agree with Rhodes about the dirt getting into the mag through the hole. I just received my mag today. It got here really quick. The mag looks great. You are really talented sir. I just fully loaded 22 rounds into it and it loads and seems to feed perfectly. I have not tested it yet, but it looks and feels like great quality. I will post my range experiences with it soon. Keep up the good work. Now I need a 30. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Got the replacement mags today and they are MUCH improved over what I sent back. Sometimes things slip though on every one. Good mags now very happy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eugene Onegin 6 Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Got my mag today ,Good Job Mike . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted August 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Csspecs, I cut the slots on one of the magazine by doing this. I inserted a wood piece roughly the same thickness as the opening inside the magazine. That way the mag would not cave in. Then I drilled (4) holes on my drill press. Afterward I used a dremmel with a cutoff wheel to connect the dots. Pretty easy process. I did have to file some burring from the inside in order to allow the follower to slide back and forth easy. Ok thats probably how I would have done it to. Short of a milling machine I think thats about the only way to do that. I'm going to have to make one for myself like that. I do have a question. How do you cut your sheet metal? Do you have a cnc cutter? I wish I had CNC anything.. All the equipment I have is manual. It does work well for doing small numbers for odd guns, thats probably what I'll stick with. Odd or obsolete mags with lower volume needed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deussne 38 Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Hmm, People that I usually use to cut me some sheetmetal are very reasonoble, and they have a laser cutter. On top of that they can pre-form all the pieces all you would need to do is spot weld the stuff. I dont think they will be too thrilled to find out that its for a magazine but if all they supply are just individual pre-bent parts they would never find out. This can save you some money and help crank out bigger quantities. I use them all the time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 I would be interested in 10 round savage 270 detachable mags. I wish I could do what you do. Wow! After I test my 20 I'm sure I will be getting more from you. Thanks again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 10 rounders for our brothers living in the socialist utopias might be a good thing on the range also as the longer 20s make prone shooting a bit bothersome for some shooters. I picked up a five rounder surefire for hunting since its not a big deal, now if I can only get a chance to get out there and shoot some wildlife. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted August 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 I've been shopping metal cutting, I'll probably do that in the future for several parts that are irritating to cut. I'm trying to keep this small and something I can keep on top of so I don't have a bunch of people angry with me. Working on the tens right now, fives not to far off. Other projects going as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bradleybear 0 Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I purchased 2 of the 20 rd magazines and really like them. I will certainly buy a few more as soon as I can get the funds freed up. Thanks csspecs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oxyehho 8 Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I've been shopping metal cutting, I'll probably do that in the future for several parts that are irritating to cut. I'm trying to keep this small and something I can keep on top of so I don't have a bunch of people angry with me. Working on the tens right now, fives not to far off. Other projects going as well. Any chance for 15s? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted August 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Yeah they are being worked on right now actually. They are cut off 20s so the 15s will have the full peep hole from the 20s about 3/8 of an inch from the bottom. I'll post a picture of them when I get a few ready and you can tell me what you think of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oxyehho 8 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Yeah they are being worked on right now actually. They are cut off 20s so the 15s will have the full peep hole from the 20s about 3/8 of an inch from the bottom. I'll post a picture of them when I get a few ready and you can tell me what you think of them. Awesome! I already sent you a PM that I'm interested. Can't wait! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geezer59 1 Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Mike, I received my 20-rd mags today, and they look great! Thanks for a great job on them, excellent packaging, and prompt shipment. Won't get out to the range to test until this weekend, but if they run as all the others reviewed here, I'll be ordering more as soon as budget permits. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunnysmith 4 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I'm in for 6, 20 round mags PM with email sent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 CS are you into this long term? Just curious. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
avatar 4 Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Do the followers hold the bolt open on the last round? If so can they be beveled off to defeat the feature? I converted a surefire for my 308 VEPR. The bolt hold open follower was nice but when removing the mag the bolt broke of the feed ramp part off the mag since it tips up in front when removing it. Beveled the follower and the other mag works fine. If The mag can work w/o the bolt held open on the last round, I may need to try a couple 15 rounders (20's are too big for my VEPR DMR). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
astrowrench 9 Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 just a quick question what brand of rings are these i would love to know thank you astrowrench2003@yahoo.com Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted August 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 (edited) CS are you into this long term? Just curious. Trying to be. I'm working on mags for the saiga 20 gauge and for the .30-06 saiga 100. Then I have a list of other firearms that have detachable mags but no source for spares, such as the valmet .308 rifles. Right now I get to work on this on my days off. If I can make three more types and sell the same number it would my only job for sure Do the followers hold the bolt open on the last round? If so can they be beveled off to defeat the feature? I converted a surefire for my 308 VEPR. The bolt hold open follower was nice but when removing the mag the bolt broke of the feed ramp part off the mag since it tips up in front when removing it. Beveled the follower and the other mag works fine. If The mag can work w/o the bolt held open on the last round, I may need to try a couple 15 rounders (20's are too big for my VEPR DMR). They are made with a fork at the back of the follower that should prevent the bolt from striking the follower, so there is no bolt hold open feature. My mags do not have an over sized front tap (AKA feed ramp) as the rounds would only catch it right as they smack the barrel face. What exactly was needed for the conversion to VEPR? Depending on what it involves it may be easy enough to rework the mag design to fit. Here are the reduced capacity mags. shown from left to right 5 10 15 and a normal 20. The fives are not ready yet (only have the one right now). This shows the remaining 20 round peep hole in a 15 round mag, 20 shown for comparison. Edited August 21, 2009 by csspecs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
avatar 4 Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 CS are you into this long term? Just curious. Trying to be. I'm working on mags for the saiga 20 gauge and for the .30-06 saiga 100. Then I have a list of other firearms that have detachable mags but no source for spares, such as the valmet .308 rifles. Right now I get to work on this on my days off. If I can make three more types and sell the same number it would my only job for sure Do the followers hold the bolt open on the last round? If so can they be beveled off to defeat the feature? I converted a surefire for my 308 VEPR. The bolt hold open follower was nice but when removing the mag the bolt broke of the feed ramp part off the mag since it tips up in front when removing it. Beveled the follower and the other mag works fine. If The mag can work w/o the bolt held open on the last round, I may need to try a couple 15 rounders (20's are too big for my VEPR DMR). They are made with a fork at the back of the follower that should prevent the bolt from striking the follower, so there is no bolt hold open feature. My mags do not have an over sized front tap (AKA feed ramp) as the rounds would only catch it right as they smack the barrel face. What exactly was needed for the conversion to VEPR? Depending on what it involves it may be easy enough to rework the mag design to fit. Here are the reduced capacity mags. shown from left to right 5 10 15 and a normal 20. The fives are not ready yet (only have the one right now). This shows the remaining 20 round peep hole in a 15 round mag, 20 shown for comparison. On the mag conversion for the VEPR I committed the Faux Paux of modding both rifle and mag. Should of just done the rifle alone but I didn't want to take off too much of the trunnion metal. Basically I relieved the front trunnion, and the rear mag catch. The rest of the work was done on the mag -- lower the feed ramp height (front of mag) and take the front locking tab in a bit. The rear lock up was left as is. I took a little material off the top rear of the mag to clear the receiver reinforcement cross member. This was with a Surefire mag so a steel mag may not need the relief. I doubt there are as many VEPR owners as Saiga so the market is probably smaller for a dedicated VEPR rework. VEPR mags still work in my rifle but are a bit looser. PS I'll PM you for payment details as soon as I can find a way to make some cash dissapear w/o the wife finding out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunnysmith 4 Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 You have paypal. A 6 mos subscription to your professional magazine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 Those look good CS pricing still the same? I need one for hunting, 5rd, and some more 20s but it may be a few weeks before I can do it as it seems every fall something happens lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted August 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 (edited) Yeah pricing is the same 45.00, they have the same number of parts just a shorter body. One pesky think I'm noticing is that the bolt at least on my rifle needs a quarter inch to pass over the rounds. But a .308 round takes only .20 so either you have a five that you need to insert on an open bolt or the game warden can get 6 rounds in the mag. So I'm going with the one that will keep you out of trouble with the game warden. Should have plenty of 5s by Monday. So anyone that wants one Ok being the trigger happy hunter I am I did not want to give up on that extra round. So a little follower adjustment to get a little more room so they will seat and cycle in my rifle with all five in on a closed bolt. Edited August 23, 2009 by csspecs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deussne 38 Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Just ordered two more. Thanks a lot! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oxyehho 8 Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Ordered 8 15-rdrs, happy as a clam! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorCongressman 0 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 (edited) I'm so glad i actually found someone making steel mags for my 308. Hopefully, you have some 20s, 15s, and 10s left. PM sent! Edited August 25, 2009 by SenatorCongressman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorCongressman 0 Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Just sent payment for 4 mags (one 15rd and three 20rd) through paypal. Looking forward to some range time. Mike, have you given any thought to 75rd drum mags? I would imagine they would be significantly harder to fab than the low count mags. If you do try, i would love to test one for ya. I have a 100rd and a 75rd drum for my RPK, and I dream about what my saiga 308 would look like with that drum under her. I know it would add crazy weight, but I would rather be slightly encumbered than run out when I need 'em. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted August 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 YEAH one day I'll have to see how hard it would be to make a drum. I have heard that the AK drums sometimes break a follower? And that there is no replacement for that part. If so then I may be able to justify buying a few drums to check it out. I'm sure it will be complicated but I like playing with hard projects. On that note I have a 15 round prototype for the Saiga 100 .30-06 that I'm almost done with (took WAY longer then I thought). Next on the block are the 5 round saiga 20 mags (have a 3/4 prototype for that one) probably have that one shipping in November. I have mags for the .308 galil that I'm taking sizes off of (I don't have that rifle to work with ..... Yet ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorCongressman 0 Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 YEAH one day I'll have to see how hard it would be to make a drum. I have heard that the AK drums sometimes break a follower? And that there is no replacement for that part. If so then I may be able to justify buying a few drums to check it out. I'm sure it will be complicated but I like playing with hard projects. On that note I have a 15 round prototype for the Saiga 100 .30-06 that I'm almost done with (took WAY longer then I thought). Next on the block are the 5 round saiga 20 mags (have a 3/4 prototype for that one) probably have that one shipping in November. I have mags for the .308 galil that I'm taking sizes off of (I don't have that rifle to work with ..... Yet ) Sounds good on the drum mag.... I might be willing to sacrifice one of my Chinese drum mags in 7.62x39, so that you can have the back cover, winder, spring, and all the other pre fab goodies that would take ALOT of time to make.... I would only request that 1) if you dont see the project through, that the drum is returned to me, or what is left of the drum ... and/or 2) When you prototype is completed, I get to test it. I have a Bulgarian 75 and a Chinese 75 drum and havnt had any followers break. I guess paypal is still processing my payment to you for those steel mags? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Yeah just cleared today. They will be going out tomorrow morning first thing. If/when I get to looking into the drum idea I'll be buying one (Gotta love "having" to buy a drum ) thanks again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted September 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Well I was going to just edit this in but I guess its just to old. I've been wanting to get to the range for a month and just got there today, stinking camera had the batteries die on the first mag. Oh well, I still can't mag dump this rifle. Way to much recoil for me. I did about saw a pallet in half with my Wasr-2, stinking bullet hose of a rifle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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