saigafan12345 21 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I was in the gun shop last weekend and saw that they stocked up on Saigas again. Now, they have a Saiga 12 in stock, brand new for $559. I love the S12 but here's the catch - I live in NJ! This means I can't go over 6 rd mags, cannot add a pistol grip, etc or anything. Is the S12 still worth getting? I guess I could put a rail on it and have a light on it. Or honestly, would I be better off with something like a mossberg 500/rem 870 that I COULD add a pistol grip to? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
t165 30 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 There is nothing wrong with a Mossberg or Remington Shotgun for self defense. I was trained on a Remmy 870 at the Academy and carried one everyday I was on patrol. The Saiga is simply a different animal. The knock on shotguns have always been capacity...not firepower. The Siaga allows you the option of a 20 round drum. While the standard 5 rounds of the Saiga and similar capacity of other shotguns will handle almost any situation having more rounds on tap is never a bad thing. I just purchased a Saiga-12 last week and haven't even shot it yet. I have been wrestling with the idea of just sitting it back NIB as an investment since it looks things are getting ready to go backward for our recently established 2nd Amendment Right to own firearms. Stupid me, I thought the Bill of Rights established gun ownership as a right back around 1791. Like I stated above, I have nothing but respect for a Mossberg or Remington shotgun. The Siaga, with its ability to add hi-cap and drum magazines for serious SHTF situations would be comforting to have in hand. Lastly, there is also the very real possibility these could be barred from future importation. I have bought several firearms over the last 2-3 years as investments. Some scoff at this practice but I seem to be seeing a greater appreciation on my firearm speculation as opposed to playing the stock market. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HarvKY 72 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Saiga S12's are a blast to shoot with or without a PG Go get it and enjoy HarvKY Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goingpro 2 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 man thats worst than cali Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boxorain 0 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Saiga S12's are a blast to shoot with or without a PG Go get it and enjoy HarvKY +1 I live in a similarly unenlightened jurisdiction, but I wouldn't trade. Plus that's a good deal in the present circumstances, and you will very likely still be able to get one of those other toys after the current Congress ends if you want to. I do feel badly about insulting the integrity of Kalashnikov's design, but that feeling usually passes after a few rounds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike75 0 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Hi guys, look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWj_W0LRJ3g n I love saiga! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
capt_bob 0 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Buy it.....NOW!!! Seems like a good price. You know the old saying "you snooze you loose" you will have shotgun that will increase in value (after the commies ban it) and I don't think they will get to the mossberg pumps for a while and you can buy one later..... just my 2 cents Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vbrtrmn 167 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I'd pick it up, NJ or not, you can always write your representatives to change laws. The S12 is definitely a good time with or without the customizations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
52brandon 0 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 So you can't convert it? Can you put an rpk stock on it or anything like that? I'd get it anyways though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
corbin 621 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Unless your State really gets crazy, you should be able to get a pump gun later if you want. You may not be able to find S-12s easilly if they ban importation of them though. Banning importation is easier to do (I think) than banning the gun itself. I might be wrong there, but that's what I think. Could you save money and get a pump gun? Yeah. Even with a 6 shot capacity, the Saiga will still have it beat for reloading speed and rapid fire. And, if the State ever gets less restrictive, you can enjoy a full conversion and a 20 round drum. My opinion is to get one. I might be a bit bias though. I've only had one for a bit over a month now and I hardly shoot anything else. Corbin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rssfndly 14 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 I was in the gun shop last weekend and saw that they stocked up on Saigas again. Now, they have a Saiga 12 in stock, brand new for $559. I love the S12 but here's the catch - I live in NJ! This means I can't go over 6 rd mags, cannot add a pistol grip, etc or anything. Is the S12 still worth getting? I guess I could put a rail on it and have a light on it. Or honestly, would I be better off with something like a mossberg 500/rem 870 that I COULD add a pistol grip to? Do you want it for a fun shooter, home defense, hunting or all the above? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brickfield mfg 86 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Now wait a minute - you are asking if you should buy a Saiga S12 on THIS forum????? And you think you don't allready know what the answer will be??? HELL YES!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TabulaRasa 1 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 I would go ahead and buy the S12 and the conversion parts anyway. You might leave New Jersey someday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pedal2alloy 206 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Buy it. It will pay for itself in the first week alone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rssfndly 14 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Buy it. It will pay for itself in the first week alone. 559.00 is not a bad price. Even if you can't convert it you can have a lot of fun with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raoul_Duke 113 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 I own several pumps and S-12's. And like Corbin said, you can (most likely) get the pump later. GET THE S-12! Faster FULL reloads and faster follow-up shots, unless you are WELL trained/practiced with the pumps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobRez 1,895 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 I sold my Remington 870 Tactical because the saiga 12 is so much more comfortable to shoot and damn accurate! I can get 5" groups at 100 yds. with slugs.That should be handy hunting in N.J. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DOXtheOX 1 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Unless your State really gets crazy, you should be able to get a pump gun later if you want. You may not be able to find S-12s easilly if they ban importation of them though. Banning importation is easier to do (I think) than banning the gun itself. I might be wrong there, but that's what I think. Corbin is right there. A ban on importation could be done by executive order. No chance for a vote on the floor, no calling your representative to vote against it, all in one day you could be SOL on getting a Saiga. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loki0629 55 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 I live in NJ and you bet your ass I bought an S-12. I could care less if I never get to convert it, it was worth every dime. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Another vote for "buy the Saiga now, and worry about the 870 later". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailbomb 10,221 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Another vote for "buy the Saiga now, and worry about the 870 later". +1 GET THE SAIGA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrBoomstick 16 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Buy the Saiga, heck get 2 even Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Twinsen 86 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 I don't see a pistol grip, that's a skeleton stock sir! Sorta got a 12 rounder... but the 5ers would still be worth it. Get the awesome gun! You know you wannnnnnt toooooooo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DOXtheOX 1 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 If you decide not to go with the Saiga here's a good deal on a Rock Island M5 tactical 12ga. pump link to centerfire Not that I'm saying you should go with a pump, my vote is still +1 for saiga. Get the saiga now, pumps are cheap and always available. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snoofer 138 Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 (edited) I was in the gun shop last weekend and saw that they stocked up on Saigas again. Now, they have a Saiga 12 in stock, brand new for $559. I love the S12 but here's the catch - I live in NJ! This means I can't go over 6 rd mags, cannot add a pistol grip, etc or anything. Is the S12 still worth getting? I guess I could put a rail on it and have a light on it. Or honestly, would I be better off with something like a mossberg 500/rem 870 that I COULD add a pistol grip to? if you get a mossberg, i would recommend the 590 8+1 shot. i have one, an 870, and a saiga 12. all quality shotguns. if i had to get rid of one, it wouldn't be the saiga that's for sure. Edited March 6, 2009 by Snoofer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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