gunman1 1,753 Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 I received the e-mail reply today for an Inquiry I made to them. Question: Do you or do you not manufacture a drum style magazine for the 20 guage Saiga? Answer: Right now we only manufacture part of it (the back plate- in case of a ban) but in a couple of weeks it is supposed to go into production. Due to this being our first production run of 20 guage drums I cannot give you an estimate on when the complete drum will be available. By the way it has a 23rd. capacity and will include a dustcover. Logan Alliance Armament LLC Ph# 812-897-4908 Fx# 812-897-4230 www.alliancearmament.com Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tsm002 5 Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 I'm not gonna lie- I'm excited about this. The more people making stuff for the S20 the better. Would I rather have an MD Arms product? You betcha. And will be seeing how that works out. While I won't be surprised if the AA drum is vaporware it would be a welcome addition to the s20 stuff I have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Heya, AA Re-cvrd... Maybe you can get a couple hundred of your friends to post " I want X amount " in this thread, so the guys at AA will know that their product is really wanted by people... I mean HOW ELSE would they EVER KNOW that someone wanted to buy a S20 drum?!?!? At least thats the logic I was given in a SIMILAR thread... See? Just like you... I can be sarcastic too... Seriously, though... would you REALLY want your thread choked to death with 20 pages of that?!?!? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunman1 1,753 Posted April 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Heya, AA Re-cvrd... Maybe you can get a couple hundred of your friends to post " I want X amount " in this thread, so the guys at AA will know that their product is really wanted by people... I mean HOW ELSE would they EVER KNOW that someone wanted to buy a S20 drum?!?!? At least thats the logic I was given in a SIMILAR thread... See? Just like you... I can be sarcastic too... Seriously, though... would you REALLY want your thread choked to death with 20 pages of that?!?!? I see your point.....is this done now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 I see your point.....is this done now? AMEN brother... Lets get us some drums and go shootin!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nico Cujo 1 Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Indy, who is that in your avatar and what movie is it from? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
satellitedr3ams 0 Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 i dunno but shes super hott Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stiletto raggio 20 Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Just guessing, but google "action girls." And when I saw this drum fr sale on GB, I had mixed emotions. I am glad it is there, but once again, I think the MD product will be worth waiting for. I wish I could like Alliance since they are from my home state, but the debacle with the early Wraithmakers and the "reliability treatment" has spoiled them for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmax4x4 68 Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 AA gets a lot of hell on here about the "reliability treatment" which is what most of the polishing, and port mods on here are about. I haven't had a problem with them or the drums,30,20 round. I don't think it was the drum that people hate them for but the way complaints were handled on here by them. But AA is not selling a 23 or 20 round 20ga drum on GB. It is just a back plate. I would say it would be a long time before anyone makes a 20ga drum. I wouldn't think it would sell anywhere close to the numbers of a 12GA drum.. Maybe when the "Origin" gun is made then the 20ga drums will be out too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 AA gets a lot of hell on here about ... Well deserved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Twinsen 86 Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 I don't think AA gets enough hell around here. I think we've stepped it down a lot. They sold stuff that didn't work, and yelled at people that tried to get them to make it work, then said they'd charge them like $300 to get the drum to work, instead of FIXING THE DAMN DRUM. Mike D sold me a drum for $165, I had to fit it to my shitty Russian stamped steel ugly beauty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sunnybean 939 Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Anyone willing to try it for $425? Link to said drum. Gotta say the top/feed looks goofy. Oh, and Indy, they must have read that 200 people wanted them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zenmetsu 17 Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 (edited) obvious troll is obvious ^^comment was directed at a spammer who has since been removed and post removed. comment was not directed at sunnybean Edited August 22, 2009 by zenmetsu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sunnybean 939 Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 (edited) Huh, I can't believe nobody would buy an unproven drum for the same cost as their gun. ETA - Zentmetsu, didn't figure it was Just pointing out that the drum didn't sell...shocking I know. BTW you look a lot like my cousin minus the long hair. Edited August 23, 2009 by sunnybean Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CitizenX 0 Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 (edited) I bought one. It arrived yesterday. Today's report: I shot it on gas block setting one using Winchester Universal Ammo. 2 3/4" 1200 FPS 2 1/2 Dram Eq. 7/8 oz 7 1/2 shot. Results: a ton of failures to eject. Thats some pretty weak ammo but its the only thing I had in 2 3/4" size. It very well could be the cause of the problem, so I picked up some stronger ammo and will report back in a couple days when I shoot that stuff off. Edit: it was on setting two. My mistake. Edited August 27, 2009 by CitizenX Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CitizenX 0 Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 I took the drum out again this morning and had much better luck. Yesterdays failures to eject were apparently caused by crappy ammo. Federal Wing Shok Lead 1350 FPS = 0 FTEs out of 22 Remington Nitro Pheasant 1300 FPS = 0 FTEs out of 22 Federal Hi-Brass Load 1220 FPS = 3 FTEs out of 23 I could probably use the weaker shells once I break in the gun more. As for the drum: 2/3 of the time it did not feed the final round. So maybe its a 22 round drum instead of 23. But it fits the gun perfectly, is easy to reload, and is a lot of fun to shoot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madtdogs 0 Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 I was pretty excited when i found that someone actually makes a 20+rnd drum for our's 20's.... until i seen the price. (heh gouge much?) It is nearly impossible to justify paying almost exactly twice the amount of the original gun price, for a mag... guess i'm just stuck with my 5/8rnd mag's. *sigh* Quote Link to post Share on other sites
volkov 318 Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Alliance armament? as in wraithmaker? as in complete fail? at least you started a topic before falling prey to their scams. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunman1 1,753 Posted October 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2009 If anyone has any mags for sale larger than 5-rounders for the S20, send me a PM. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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