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...other useless pieces of sh!t who are plaguing our forum....GROW UP or SHUT UP PLEASE!

You ALL suck! Go back from vince ye came!

It's very easy to tell who these morons are. Many of them show their true colors in the "fight club", but also spill their crap out all over the forum. If you have doubts, or want to find out if someone is just a useless pot stirring troublemaker, or if they actually have something to contribute to our forum, just click on their screen name. It will take you to their profile page. Then click "options" on the left, then "find member's posts". Or even "find member's topics" if the loser has even started any...). It should be very obvious by reading a handful of their posts, what kind of agenda they have here. :rolleyes:

Instead of lighting paper bags of dogsh!t on people's front porches, knocking on their doors and running, or making prank phone calls like immature twits used to in the old days, todays little kiddies that never grew up like to log onto forums like ours and start pissing matches with decent people, just to get their jollies.

Some say "don't feed the trolls", just ignore them and they will go away. I prefer to choke them out instead.

Call them out for exactly what they are, get them to really show their asses, then BAN the useless POS! It's the only way to rid this place of all the scum. If they come back as a new troll then ban their IP. :bann:

This forum puts up with way too much crap from idiots.

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It must be terrorists...er, uh, I mean democrats trying to stress us gun owners out of our minds. :rolleyes:

 

One member stated it is probably not an individual at all but a bot. I received another pm yestreday at 10:47am. Thats why many sites like Facebook, MySpace and others make you type a funky, hard to read code before one is allowed to enter their site.

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Maybe anyone who just stirs shit or posts only political invective should be allowed to post in a forum titled "Bullshitters and asshats", ONLY!

The rest of us who enjoy flaming them could go there to vent our spleens, and leave the other forums for what they are meant for: the flow of information about our shared interest in Saiga and other firearms. Those who never post a question or help a brother, or even have an interesting comment, but are always willing to stir up a shitstorm are counter productive. And the sheer weight of superfluous bullshit makes many otherwise very informative threads almost unintelligible. I would also support a 100 word limit on most posts. There is no idea that cannot be explained in 100 words or less generally, and the more words, the less truth.

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Maybe anyone who just stirs shit or posts only political invective should be allowed to post in a forum titled "Bullshitters and asshats", ONLY!

The rest of us who enjoy flaming them could go there to vent our spleens, and leave the other forums for what they are meant for: the flow of information about our shared interest in Saiga and other firearms. Those who never post a question or help a brother, or even have an interesting comment, but are always willing to stir up a shitstorm are counter productive. And the sheer weight of superfluous bullshit makes many otherwise very informative threads almost unintelligible. I would also support a 100 word limit on most posts. There is no idea that cannot be explained in 100 words or less generally, and the more words, the less truth.

 

LOL....as GOB rattles off a very rare 138 word post! You tell em bro! :haha:

 

Actually GOB seems like one of the very few who got what I was saying. I wasn't referring to the bots that spammed the whole forum, or even spammers at all....I'm talking asshats who come here just to argue and stir up shit, and who rarely or never post any constructive words in a thread, only ass pirating around...lol. Good one Patriot! :lolol:

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I say this -

 

reinstate me and my admin privledges, and I will remove ALL non saiga shit from this site in the following days. Anyone else talking shit, bullshitting, or being a dickhead (except me of course) will be escorted out permanently.

 

OR -

 

hows bout INSTEAD of a communistic run forum, we just leave shit as it is, and enjoy it as a free zone on the inet, as Max intended it. The one time I had to drop the hammer hard, everyone got thier panties in a cinch over it, even though it had to be done, so bitch all ya want, because ya'll aint gonna be happy either way!!! :)

 

to be honest, this type of thread is what annoys me. I see them here and there, dont think im picking at you cobra, because im not.

 

send this to the fight club where it belongs. Im tired of coming here and seeing all kinds of stuff spread all over the place, when it should all be in a nice tidy spot thats been labeled for it. and yes, I have complained about it, only to be told to fuck off pretty much by the people I helped place in charge. I mean hell, I dont get spammed by the latest kid spamming with trojan horses, but I gotta sift through 20 topics about it!!! I GOT SPAMMED ANYWAY!! BY YOU ALL!!! LOL how the fuck does that work?

 

sorry woke up on the wrong side of the house today, so no sugar coating on my end.

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I say this -

 

reinstate me and my admin privledges, and I will remove ALL non saiga shit from this site in the following days. Anyone else talking shit, bullshitting, or being a dickhead (except me of course) will be escorted out permanently.

 

OR -

 

hows bout INSTEAD of a communistic run forum, we just leave shit as it is, and enjoy it as a free zone on the inet, as Max intended it. The one time I had to drop the hammer hard, everyone got thier panties in a cinch over it, even though it had to be done, so bitch all ya want, because ya'll aint gonna be happy either way!!! :)

 

to be honest, this type of thread is what annoys me. I see them here and there, dont think im picking at you cobra, because im not.

 

send this to the fight club where it belongs. Im tired of coming here and seeing all kinds of stuff spread all over the place, when it should all be in a nice tidy spot thats been labeled for it. and yes, I have complained about it, only to be told to fuck off pretty much by the people I helped place in charge. I mean hell, I dont get spammed by the latest kid spamming with trojan horses, but I gotta sift through 20 topics about it!!! I GOT SPAMMED ANYWAY!! BY YOU ALL!!! LOL how the fuck does that work?

 

sorry woke up on the wrong side of the house today, so no sugar coating on my end.

I asked who else felt left out by not getting it, and you couldn't respond?

 

what a dick...

 

PS: am i the only one who caught him calling himself a commie?

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LOL good stuff!

 

trolling for trolls is still trolling, ya know, cobra - I know I know, Im not allowed to speak MY mind on matters, or any of that, but I will do it anyway :)

 

nailbomb - business is funny sometimes like that. Not everything done is done by the rules. Its doing what has to be done that matters in business, not whats right or comfortable to the rest of the planet. Doing things you dont want to do, or that arent acceptable by many is often the choice we are given in life, and making the shitty choices that you dont want to make or are forced to make, is really what standing up and doing the right thing is often about.

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nailbomb - business is funny sometimes like that. Not everything done is done by the rules. Its doing what has to be done that matters in business, not whats right or comfortable to the rest of the planet. Doing things you dont want to do, or that arent acceptable by many is often the choice we are given in life, and making the shitty choices that you dont want to make or are forced to make, is really what standing up and doing the right thing is often about.

See you could point it out like that, or you could simply say as i've heard befor that this forum is a buisness and in that respect your position hasn't changed much. Really what has changed for you? your still making the same choices. Dealing with trolls here in the net, or doushbag customers requires the same deft skill.

 

Hell wasn't cobra a admin at one point? I bring this up becaws i think the only reason you 2 get like this is you have a little too much in common. If i met someone else with my same personality i'de hate him too.

 

But still lets really get down to the grit here. Who to keep and who not to? I can be as friendly as anyone on here and lend a helping hand and advice. In the other respect i can enjoy stirring up shit as much as the next troll to come along. Thats very easily proven by me jumping in this conversation and the fact that i'm the one who resurected those polls this last time.(cobra won't be suprised)

 

Its the duality of man, one hand feeds, the other destroys.

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I guess since I don't talk about Saiga's, I'd get the boot. I just don't know enough yet to comment. But not to worry, there are actually quite a few places on the internet that are willing to take my willingness to fight for 2nd Amendment rights without commenting on a specific type of gun. What a bunch of crap to come back to. I think I had more fun in the hospital.

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I guess since I don't talk about Saiga's, I'd get the boot. I just don't know enough yet to comment. But not to worry, there are actually quite a few places on the internet that are willing to take my willingness to fight for 2nd Amendment rights without commenting on a specific type of gun. What a bunch of crap to come back to. I think I had more fun in the hospital.

 

I am sorry you feel that way.

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I guess since I don't talk about Saiga's, I'd get the boot. I just don't know enough yet to comment. But not to worry, there are actually quite a few places on the internet that are willing to take my willingness to fight for 2nd Amendment rights without commenting on a specific type of gun. What a bunch of crap to come back to. I think I had more fun in the hospital.

 

Don't let 'em get to you. You're welcome here.

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Sandi, you just stay put right here.....OK... B)

 

People STILL get curbstomped when they need to...

 

Other than that... nothing wrong with a good argument... hell, even a fight so long as it's fair...

 

Admitted, some folks are Obamatons just here to run their mouths....

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Why do I get the feeling that it's not just those who may dissagree with juggernaut that are the trolls....

 

I'm no Obamaton... but I sure have been jumped on as if I were. There is a lot of hate and extremism brewing within the members of this forum. Totally closed-minded and unwilling to hold reasonable discussions. If you disagree with them you are mobbed, even though we are all here for basically the same purpose.

 

Those trolls are no better than the other trolls that attempt reasonable debate on topics from which threads have been based.

 

 

Now.. where'd I leave that thread with the bold mods hmmmmmmm where'd I leave that new set of files I just bought?

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See you could point it out like that, or you could simply say as i've heard befor that this forum is a buisness and in that respect your position hasn't changed much. Really what has changed for you? your still making the same choices. Dealing with trolls here in the net, or doushbag customers requires the same deft skill.

 

Hell wasn't cobra a admin at one point? I bring this up becaws i think the only reason you 2 get like this is you have a little too much in common. If i met someone else with my same personality i'de hate him too.

 

But still lets really get down to the grit here. Who to keep and who not to? I can be as friendly as anyone on here and lend a helping hand and advice. In the other respect i can enjoy stirring up shit as much as the next troll to come along. Thats very easily proven by me jumping in this conversation and the fact that i'm the one who resurected those polls this last time.(cobra won't be suprised)

 

Its the duality of man, one hand feeds, the other destroys.

 

I hear ya. Things have changed quite a lot actually, although I will spare you the details and just tell you this - I do keep a list of names now, and cross out the ones that get a lot of minus signs next to them. I also do try to make up wrongdoings on my part to people along the way. Life is too short to constantly take knives out of my back.

 

Cobra and I have come to terms lately, although I dont understand why he thinks everything I say on here might be or is a personal attack on him, because its not. I have my opinions just like the rest do. I am much more reserved in voicing them nowadays, due to obvious reasons. I will say that the people I know in the real world will not agree that we are alike. It isnt easy to tell over a computer screen.

 

The grit is pretty much the reality of the situation. This forum has passed its infancy and its childhood years, and is now a young adult. If one were to go to the various admin forums out there where you can get advice on user problems, staff conflicts, escallation of users and traffic, entering into selling space on the website, hack attempts, etc etc, you will see that the variety of users is common for this stage of this site, and is part of its growth, and short of shutting the place down, there really is not much to be done to avoid it, although the membership itself is the best way to judge what to allow and not to allow and all that fine and happy horseshit. I keep track of certain types of information for consideration of business associates that I have, the growth, expansion, and user base of this forum, being one.

 

So in short - maybe a ilttle tidying up around the place once in a while isnt a bad idea. Going around and thinning people out that one does not like on the other hand, is really no answer at all, however. Really what you would be doing is being that which we all dislike at heart, and essentially turning off the ability for new members to join the discussion, which also is something that none of us want. With the good, there always comes some bad.

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I think the term "Troll" has now taken up what ever definition each individual sees fit to apply to the term rather than the traditional internet troll meaning..............

 

 

 

 

You left yourself wide open........

 

But as Cobra said, it IS a pretty day and I'm feeling charitable!

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The 2nd Amendment isn't the only one which has it's share of detractors. The 1st Amendment has been constantly harassed from inception. We all have our personal beliefs of what is proper or not and our primary method of expression is the spoken word. Everyone wants to be right and seeks agreement from others for validation. Some individuals are not emotionally equiped to handle disagreement well. Particularly when beliefs the individual feels very strongly about are being attacked. Then comes the attitude and anger. I guess we all have lost our tempers from time to time.

 

This forum lets people rant. I think that is a good thing. This would be a very boring, not to mention small, discussion forum if only like-minded individuals were permitted. The foundation of this forum is firearm discussion but in the end it is a business site...the more members the better. Feelings may get hurt from time to time but lets be realistic...it's only words. No blood or broken bones. Severly suppressing expression is only good for tyrants like Kim Jung-il, Adolf Hitler,...ect!

 

I think Juggernaut has got the right idea. He seems to be reluctant to quash a thread just because he may or may not agree with it's content or direction. He lets the free flow of opinions and ideas sort themselves out. If another member disagrees with another member then they will work it out...or grow tired of arguing with each other and walk away... or simply ignore one another. There are firearm discussion forums on the Internet which strictly monitor content. These may be better suited for the more sensitive type. I'm not being derogatory toward anyone. We all have different personalities.

 

I've heard mention of "fight club". Is this an actual thread on Saiga-12.com? I've never seen it. I do not wish to visit the thread. Everytime I get into a silly exchange of insults and profanity I wind up feeling foolish.

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I've heard mention of "fight club". Is this an actual thread on Saiga-12.com? I've never seen it. I do not wish to visit the thread.

 

 

Then don't ask the question. The answer will only lead you where you say you don't want to go.

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