dph arms 88 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Here is a picture of our new stock that we are working on. It is made out of solid billet and bolts up to the Ace style hinges. The second pic is of the right side folding version we are R&D'ing but the standard stock has the same design. Scott Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oxyehho 8 Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 (edited) Looks seriously AWESOME! Are you guys planning for a cheek piece as well? Edited April 23, 2009 by oxyehho Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailbomb 10,221 Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 (edited) Looks seriously AWESOME!Are you guys planning for a cheek piece as well? +1 this is a good looking project, and you really should consider a option for a cheek piece. how hard is it to rack the bolt with it folded? Edited April 24, 2009 by Nailbomb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
westonsecurity 6 Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 I've always wanted to see my shoulder imprinted in a waffle pattern. Anyway look very nice. Cheek piece & recoil pad would be a nice addition. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dph arms 88 Posted April 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Cheek piece is being looked into and the butt is designed for a M4 buttpad to fit it. scott Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alwaysshooting 1 Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 VERY NICE!! Any idea on how much they will go for? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XXasdf 29 Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Looks interesting, I've been looking for an alternative to ACE's skeleton stocks. Also would you be including the buttpad and cheekrest or would that be added separately. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
COS 0 Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Looks great!! What finish are you thinking? Also will it clear the MD20?? -COS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6500rpm 670 Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Wow Scott, that's a lot of milling. The Pad is a good idea, sharp edges tend to attract finish wear. Pretty cool design concept-looks part Galil/part CTR. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockmup 12 Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Very nice. I take it the production unit will be cast ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BronCobraJet 80 Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Well you just made up my mind for me which stock I want. looks GOOD! How soon? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gpqueen 545 Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Very nice.I take it the production unit will be cast ? Milled out, not cast. Can't wait to get them. Scott said they may be a few out the end of next week. Greg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dph arms 88 Posted April 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Thanks Greg.......he is right, they will be 100% milled from a block of billet. As for clearing the MD20....dont know, I didnt think about that. The butt pad will not be included nor will the cheek rest. As for price, we dont have final numbers but it will be under $100.00 Scott Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockmup 12 Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Very nice.I take it the production unit will be cast ? Milled out, not cast. Can't wait to get them. Scott said they may be a few out the end of next week. Greg Damn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wotan1105 7 Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Looks like a sweet meat tenderizer! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmax4x4 68 Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 (edited) What is the length and will any stock lamb saver fit it? Edited April 25, 2009 by madmax4x4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dph arms 88 Posted April 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 It is 8.5 inches and I'm not sure about the stock limb savers, I'll have to check. Scott Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 I would keep a close eye on the angle that it sits off the back of the receiver. If it's a bit too high, or a bit too low, guys are going to bitch about it, trust me. As it sits, it looks like it's a bit low. That is actually the best position for ergonomic shooting and my personal preference, but no one will care about how it "fits" or how it handles. If it doesn't "look" right, guys will bitch, bottom line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailbomb 10,221 Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 (edited) I would keep a close eye on the angle that it sits off the back of the receiver. If it's a bit too high, or a bit too low, guys are going to bitch about it, trust me. As it sits, it looks like it's a bit low. That is actually the best position for ergonomic shooting and my personal preference, but no one will care about how it "fits" or how it handles. If it doesn't "look" right, guys will bitch, bottom line. I learned with bikes, lines are everything. It follows through to guns just as much. But really it seems to be following the bottom line of the reciever just fine. whats the issue? Edited April 26, 2009 by Nailbomb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 I love the Billit look as well as the style of sling swivel that you have employed. I must also voice my desire for a cheek weld pad. As to stock angle, I concur with Tony, looks are not as much of a concern as performance, I like a slight downward angle, and more and you seriously promote muzzle rise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pedal2alloy 206 Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Hey Scott, I love stuff that is machined out of a solid billet. So when I first saw it, I thought "wow, that is totally awesome." Also I really like your products and your dedication to being one of the top suppliers of tools and parts for the AK and other platforms. But looking at it the second time, I'm thinking it doesn't look quite right. I know that you didn't ask for advice, but I'm going to give my opinion: 1) It looks a little 'thin.' The line that is angled down to the buttplate looks thicker than the rest, so maybe all the lines should be that thick. Also maybe the top bar could be wider. 2) Where the angled line meets the buttplate, I think that shouldn't end in a point, it should end in a flat spot like 1.5" front to back. 3) The flange that bolts to the hinge needs more 'meat' like an extra .75 inches. Then you would need longer screws or maybe recess them. Oooooh, countersinking.... 4) I think it doesn't need that vertical strut that divides the 2 oval cutouts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mscottrogers 56 Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Hey Scott, I love stuff that is machined out of a solid billet. So when I first saw it, I thought "wow, that is totally awesome." Also I really like your products and your dedication to being one of the top suppliers of tools and parts for the AK and other platforms. But looking at it the second time, I'm thinking it doesn't look quite right. I know that you didn't ask for advice, but I'm going to give my opinion: 1) It looks a little 'thin.' The line that is angled down to the buttplate looks thicker than the rest, so maybe all the lines should be that thick. Also maybe the top bar could be wider. 2) Where the angled line meets the buttplate, I think that shouldn't end in a point, it should end in a flat spot like 1.5" front to back. 3) The flange that bolts to the hinge needs more 'meat' like an extra .75 inches. Then you would need longer screws or maybe recess them. Oooooh, countersinking.... 4) I think it doesn't need that vertical strut that divides the 2 oval cutouts. and it should be made out of plastic and maybe hot pink in color...... It looks so goooood, I like adjustable for the many shooters on my gun but I may make a personal model now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cvhanh20 1,052 Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Looks really good Scott, great work. I know stocks with a turned down angle don't rock my boat, but I'd put this on my gun, It is a class piece of work and for less than $100.00 are you kidding, get ready to be covered up making these little jewels. Top notch! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dph arms 88 Posted April 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Thanks for all the kind words guys.....we never expect to get it right the first time out of the box but we try to do our best. We will make adjustments as they come our way. We are never too proud to take input. Tony....I apreciate the heads up, I'll call the shop in the morning. Hopefully they dont have too many already made up. I know they were sending some out to the anodizer in the morning. I believe this is what you are saying that we need to put out. The one with the downward angle is our model for the right/left side folder. That angle will allow us to miss the carrier when it is folded to the right. scott Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailbomb 10,221 Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Thanks for all the kind words guys.....we never expect to get it right the first time out of the box but we try to do our best. We will make adjustments as they come our way. We are never too proud to take input. Tony....I apreciate the heads up, I'll call the shop in the morning. Hopefully they dont have too many already made up. I know they were sending some out to the anodizer in the morning. I believe this is what you are saying that we need to put out. The one with the downward angle is our model for the right/left side folder. That angle will allow us to miss the carrier when it is folded to the right. scott listen guys just my $.02 but i really think it looked better turned down like you had it in the OP... It followed the bottom line of the reciever then, the second pic here dosn't follow anything though its level. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BronCobraJet 80 Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 The striaght level stock looks a lot better. It was cool, but that just raised the bar a little more! I thought that maybe the receiver block was angled a little or something on the very first pic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oxyehho 8 Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 The striaght level stock looks a lot better. It was cool, but that just raised the bar a little more! I thought that maybe the receiver block was angled a little or something on the very first pic. +1 It follows the barrel which is what I'd want. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
52brandon 0 Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Thanks for all the kind words guys.....we never expect to get it right the first time out of the box but we try to do our best. We will make adjustments as they come our way. We are never too proud to take input. Tony....I apreciate the heads up, I'll call the shop in the morning. Hopefully they dont have too many already made up. I know they were sending some out to the anodizer in the morning. I believe this is what you are saying that we need to put out. The one with the downward angle is our model for the right/left side folder. That angle will allow us to miss the carrier when it is folded to the right. scott listen guys just my $.02 but i really think it looked better turned down like you had it in the OP... It followed the bottom line of the reciever then, the second pic here dosn't follow anything though its level. I'm the complete opposite. The straight angle stock is dead sexy. If I didn't already put the tromix stock on mine, this would have made the decision a lot harder. I guess I'll have to get one for my next s12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wash 0 Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 I can see both sides of the straight vs angled issue. Perhaps it would be best if you did both and didn't keep the front of the stock paralel? I'm not sure if it would add a lot of machining time, you already have the angle on the rear portion. Either way at that price it's a great deal for a billet stock. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dph arms 88 Posted April 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Talked to the shop today......I should have the first run of stocks in here on Thursday. Scott Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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