VanKiller 322 Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 A 12 inch "Cutie" ......With Chaos Rail, Warthog Brake, Gas Puck, and Quick Cleanout........oh and what's his names drum...LOL...(yeah the one that works fine)...MD-20........Built by CGW... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Nice job! You are a real master craftsman. I have always liked the look of that brake. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cvhanh20 1,052 Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Nice job! You are a real master craftsman. I have always liked the look of that brake. Sweet!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pfmedic 8 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Nice job! You are a real master craftsman. I have always liked the look of that brake. Sweet!!! I already knew I wanted that rail but I think that photo just sold me on the warthog. SOLID! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VanKiller 322 Posted May 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 I'm trying to figure out how to get some video to show how well the Hog reduces the muzzle-rise. It is one of the few brakes out there that really works. I guess I'll nail a yardstick up and shoot in front of it and take a vid from the side. Using the same ammo with a couple different brakes. That should show the difference....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 draw a grid on white poster board, and film straight from the side at exact same locations off your spotting scope tripod.....should show muzzle rise and recoil differences.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Maybe filming will show the differences, maybe not. There is a difference between actual and felt recoil. I would guess that a test group with guns set up so that you could not see the brake on the end would be needed to really be fair to the brake. I guess that you could use a paper plate stuck on the barrel or some such with the shotgun presented to the shooter in such a way as to prevent personal bias from skewing the results. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cvhanh20 1,052 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Maybe filming will show the differences, maybe not. There is a difference between actual and felt recoil. I would guess that a test group with guns set up so that you could not see the brake on the end would be needed to really be fair to the brake. I guess that you could use a paper plate stuck on the barrel or some such with the shotgun presented to the shooter in such a way as to prevent personal bias from skewing the results. This would be true for recoil, but this brake was designed to reduce muzzle lift, which could be fairly measured from the side. I could manufacture a brake to do both, but it would be a tank brake, and I don't like those. I would rather stay on target and get kicked back a little, but there are ways to buffer that as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crackback 135 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 (edited) draw a grid on white poster board, and film straight from the side at exact same locations off your spotting scope tripod.....should show muzzle rise and recoil differences.... Bvamp and Azrial make good points. IIRC there are several episodes of MythBusters where they measure projo speed, muzzle rise, and/or recoil from a firearm using a slow motion camera. I would copy their setup as far as back and white grid background and rest to make the test as accurate as possible. Edited May 27, 2009 by 690gr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VanKiller 322 Posted May 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Now come on guys, I don't have time to take anything less than a HI-speed crap, let alone setup a major test bed to show recoil differences in muzzlebrakes.............Let's keep it simple........ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Now come on guys, I don't have time to take anything less than a HI-speed crap, let alone setup a major test bed to show recoil differences in muzzlebrakes.............Let's keep it simple........ Equipment and procedure to implement my method. Please follow the steps in order for best results. 1. Stack of paper plates 2. a group of men, 5-10 should do. 3. a case or two of beer 4. a note pad, to keep it all scientific like... 5. Someone to ask the question, "Hey guys, anyone what to try my new 12" SBS with a 20 round drum, there will be free beer after?" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Tom, both you and Steve are lifelong shooters, so I am sure either or both of you could have an unbiased shooting stance, and duplicate it with and withou the warthog. I am sure that if you each stood with a clear line of fire, with the exposed block wall to your left with the block courses for a reference, and took 2 quick videos of each of you, with the camera on the white things hood, with and without the warthog on there, it should be obvious. Maybe a few triple taps on each with some buckshot. It would be even more apparant if you only held the gun to your shoulder with your trigger hand, im sure, and the wall should be enough of a gauge to show change in muzzle rise. There is no way that there is not at least a LITTLE muzzle climb checking..... that should be pretty quick and simple to do.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailbomb 10,221 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 I now know what i must do... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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