Juggernaut 11,054 Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Special thanks to Vbrtrmn for all his help in this matter behind the scene. Hes a real credit to the forum. Word! he's smarter than he looks!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
voonman 133 Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 The site owner should..really take inconsideration that this guy seems to be a ripoff and remove his business off of the saiga 12 forum...We dont want anyone else getting burned and blaming this site for supporting diavalo arms. things are being discussed... Since the authorities are involved..I believe it is an easy guess that diavalo arms doesnt give a sh** ..What happens now?..So to our best judgement his company is an official scam and fraud...Ive been a victim of fraud before and i dont see how it is fair to others to be advertising for scam artists and giving this forum a bad name...If you look under his info in this forum http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=35383 ..it seems as though there is always an emergency or a death in the family.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunboy69 50 Posted July 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 (edited) After talking to him on the phone,he seems to be frazzled or hopped up on the goof balls or something. He always says "YES SIR! YES SIR! Edited July 4, 2009 by gunboy69 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paprotective 362 Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Keep on the PD and I would send the copy of the local PD report to the local Sheriff in FL via Fax myself ASAP. Turn UP the HEAT MAN!!! My .02 or hire a PI (or websearch his name..cheaper,) and get a home address.... Then give that info to the local Sheriff in FL.. Help them out abit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GregM1 241 Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Will you even be able to find another bolt carrier and spring? Arent the sizes of the items in Saigas different than typilcal ak-47 design? Does any one distribute those saiga parts? Good luck on re-aquisition of your items guys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
naveed 0 Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 (edited) +1 to vbrtmrn. Thanks for your help. I still find it hard to believe that this guy is a total scam considering that he is listed under the ATF with a legitimate FFL. And thanks to the member that went out there and actually saw if the place existed. All I know is according to my UPS tracking number someone signed for the gun and someone has it. Along with my money and accessories. In these economic times it's not easy to lose close to 1000 dollars worth of stuff. I have a feeling I will be going back to my local PD and filing a theft report in 2 weeks. I'll take the member's advice and fax it myself. I'm just hoping they actually go knock on some doors considering I have an address and not just throw it in there pile of papers. Edited July 5, 2009 by naveed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GregM1 241 Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 It doesnt sound like a guy that is a scam artist to me, it sounds more like someone who gave up on their own business. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 It doesnt sound like a guy that is a scam artist to me, it sounds more like someone who gave up on their own business. Giving up on your business is one thing. No one can fault you for that. But this guy still has other people's guns and/or parts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunboy69 50 Posted July 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Will you even be able to find another bolt carrier and spring? Arent the sizes of the items in Saigas different than typilcal ak-47 design? Does any one distribute those saiga parts? Good luck on re-aquisition of your items guys. You can get replacements through a few sources. I think the bolt carrier and recoil rod/spring are the same in all the shotguns,and the bolt is different. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GregM1 241 Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 It doesnt sound like a guy that is a scam artist to me, it sounds more like someone who gave up on their own business. Giving up on your business is one thing. No one can fault you for that. But this guy still has other people's guns and/or parts. im not trying to say what he is doing is right, he should have already taken care of the return of their property. it sounds like he should get his head out of his ass, send the stuff, and then retire his business. im sure a visit from the police will motivate him to get it right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
clifton 354 Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 This guy gives .. us on this board a bad name.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jswledhed 57 Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 I went to the shop twice, and noone was there. its not hard to find, although it is unmarked, and is a warehousing complex unit. 'tis the truth. I stopped by on Friday. No one there. No markings on the outside of the building to tell you anything. No info on the main sign at the front of the complex. I've got pictures, one of which includes the name of the complex. I can't post them at the moment, but I should have them up once I get home. Just on a side note, the intersection of Colonial Blvd and Forsyth Rd suuuuuuuuuuuuucks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 The dude is a wanker and a crook. Hope you get it fixed boys, and hope he gets shitcanned on this site too!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 I poked around a little and this may be the buttplug you are looking for. I would copy as many photos as you can before he removes the page: http://www.myspace.com/108241142 http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?...;albumId=554569 Yakdung Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vbrtrmn 167 Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Thanks for the compliments guys, I'm happy to help anyone here out! Even you Juggs *wink* Quote Link to post Share on other sites
voonman 133 Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Guy looks like a F**kin Maniac with that Gas mask on.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
avnate 335 Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Guy looks like a F**kin Maniac with that Gas mask on.. At least have someone put on a zombie costume and run around in the background so you don't look like a total douche. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunboy69 50 Posted July 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Yeah :lol: I wouldn't have sent him my gun if I had seen those pics first. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaPD 408 Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Gunboy, I know that it must suck BIG TIME, but at least you are still trying to keep your sense of humor. Good on ya. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunboy69 50 Posted July 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Gunboy, I know that it must suck BIG TIME, but at least you are still trying to keep your sense of humor. Good on ya. Thanks...Yeah...it does suck having this sitting in the safe and not being able to shoot it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reverendfranz 160 Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Who needs a safety, right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailbomb 10,221 Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Guy looks like a F**kin Maniac with that Gas mask on.. At least have someone put on a zombie costume and run around in the background so you don't look like a total douche. Geez guys right along with my vest i still have my gas mask from the service, that makes someone a ass? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
voonman 133 Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Guy looks like a F**kin Maniac with that Gas mask on.. At least have someone put on a zombie costume and run around in the background so you don't look like a total douche. Geez guys right along with my vest i still have my gas mask from the service, that makes someone a ass? You have a good excuse to use your gas mask..that jackass thinks it looks cool Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunboy69 50 Posted July 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Who needs a safety, right? I've got the safety,that thing is just hanging together in that pic. No bolt,or recoil rod. The mount isnt attached. Ive got some bugs to work out with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jswledhed 57 Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 (edited) This is the place. Contact info for the industrial park. They might be interested to know that there is some questionable business involving firearms happening on their property. **EDIT** Forgot the one that actually showed the address of the block of units. That's unit A with the garage door open. Diavolo Arms is supposed to be unit I. Edited July 9, 2009 by jswledhed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunboy69 50 Posted July 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Big thanks Jswledhed! Thanks to everyone for going out of their way to dig up info on this puke for those of us who got hosed by this guy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jswledhed 57 Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Happy to help however I can. I came very close to sending my 12 to him. Sorry I can't do more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunboy69 50 Posted July 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 You could plant some charges on that door,and see whats going on in there. Grab our stuff and bug out! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Makc 64 Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Just got off the phone with Chris! He had a death in the family and, as I am sure you all can imagine, affairs like that are always very very hard on everyone. He told me that he closed the shop for a month due to the trouble as he needed to take care of the family matters and that he was trying to send messages out to everyone and as well as changed the message on the answering machine to let people know about the situation. He promised that all the customers and problems that were discussed here will be taken care of by Monday or Tuesday next week (13th - 14th of July) I know this is a sore topic for everyone involved as quite some time has passed, but given the situation, lets give Chris a chance to make it right by everyone! Thx, Max Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunboy69 50 Posted July 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Thanks Max! Though I dont agree with how he handled it,I'm more than willing to let him make it right. At this point I had written it off. Thanks again John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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