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It's an all steel copy of an 870 that despite the rough machining marks reminds me more of of the old 870 Police and military shotguns of 30+ years ago.They have a little squared area at the top rear of the receiver but are otherwise identical and interchangeable with an 870.I know a guy who bought one just to keep in the trunk of his car but after shooting it and messing with it decided to trick it out just like his custom Remington because it was "that good".

 

I think these shotguns are a "Chinese Secret" like the Norinco 1911s and M14s that had forged frames and were way better than their price would suggest and like those items one day everyone will get wise and they will cost more money used than they do brand new today.

 

In fact between the guys I know who have them and this thread I think I will buy a couple of them to stick in various locations loaded up an ready to use.

 

The only weak spot I have heard of is that the magazine tube spring is kinda chincy but for $8 you can put a better one in it and never look back because you just saved $200-300 vs the price of a Remington.

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Saw these on sale at Dick's sporting goods. Any opinions on these ? Anyone know if they are reliable and can be trusted .

Thanks.

What's the price at Dicks? I may have to get one, been looking for a half-decent cheap pump gun.

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Damn, you learn something new every day! I did not know that Remington was making a newer/cheaper model then the Express. I remember not that long ago when you could buy those at Wally World for $200!

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Damn, you learn something new every day! I did not know that Remington was making a newer/cheaper model then the Express. I remember not that long ago when you could buy those at Wally World for $200!

 

 

 

I don't think it's actually a Remington, the Pardner name is a H&R thing. I believe this is an H&R.

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Hello, thanks for all the responses. I lost power last night and it just came back on. Dicks sporting goods has it for 199.99. Their ad says it is a remington but I think it is an H&R . Dicks does not have guns listed on their site so I can't supply a link. I think I'll stop in to today and check them out.

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I've been shopping for a HD shotgun for some time and I was just about to plop down $350 for an 870 when I got that flyer from Dick's in the mail. When I saw the $199 price on the H&R PP, I started searching the net for reviews. After extensively researching posts and reviews dating back to 2003, I could only dig up one negative review. 99% of the reviews I read are glowing about this shotgun.

 

FYI, H&R is a Marlin company and Marlin was acquired by Remington back in 2007. Thus, it appears that the PP is a Chinese-made, Remington sanctioned replica of the 870, sans barrel. However, Dick's should not have put the name "Remington" in the photo box that also reads Pardner Protector. Also, from what I saw in the add, the shotgun pictured there is the 870.

 

Whatever the case may be, $199 for this shotgun is a veritable steal. I'm going to buy one tomorrow and use the $150 savings to buy lots of ammo. Hey, what better way to celebrate than by blasting some rounds?

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Not to hijack the thread, but I bought a 10/22 from Dicks a few months ago and part of the store policy is to escort

customers who buy guns out to there car after the purchase. I thought it was hysterical that they sent some 17 year old kid

who couldn't have weighed more than 140 pds with me to my truck for my protection. I have a CCW and am carrying my G27 at the time. :D

Sure glad they sent Richey Cunningham with me so I would be safe :smoke:

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Not to hijack the thread, but I bought a 10/22 from Dicks a few months ago and part of the store policy is to escort

customers who buy guns out to there car after the purchase. I thought it was hysterical that they sent some 17 year old kid

who couldn't have weighed more than 140 pds with me to my truck for my protection. I have a CCW and am carrying my G27 at the time. :D

Sure glad they sent Richey Cunningham with me so I would be safe :smoke:

 

 

 

When I was 17 I weighed 155 and would have probably whooped your ass. Maybe not, but there would have been blood and we would both look ugly. Why don't you take your Rambo act and your 22 rifle somewhere else. Everyone here has way more class than you. I would love RC to escort me because I know the Fonz is not far behind. You just hate people under 18.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And I hope you know I'm just joking.

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Not to hijack the thread, but I bought a 10/22 from Dicks a few months ago and part of the store policy is to escort

customers who buy guns out to there car after the purchase. I thought it was hysterical that they sent some 17 year old kid

who couldn't have weighed more than 140 pds with me to my truck for my protection. I have a CCW and am carrying my G27 at the time. :D

Sure glad they sent Richey Cunningham with me so I would be safe :smoke:

 

I bought a 597 there a couple years go, and while they didn't walk me out to my car, the gun counter clerk did have to walk me to the front of the store. Also, I thought it was another one of their policies to not sell ammo at the same time as a gun purchase, but I picked up a brick of .22 at the same time, no problems.

 

Not to hijack the thread, but I bought a 10/22 from Dicks a few months ago and part of the store policy is to escort

customers who buy guns out to there car after the purchase. I thought it was hysterical that they sent some 17 year old kid

who couldn't have weighed more than 140 pds with me to my truck for my protection. I have a CCW and am carrying my G27 at the time. :D

Sure glad they sent Richey Cunningham with me so I would be safe :smoke:

 

 

 

When I was 17 I weighed 155 and would have probably whooped your ass. Maybe not, but there would have been blood and we would both look ugly. Why don't you take your Rambo act and your 22 rifle somewhere else. Everyone here has way more class than you. I would love RC to escort me because I know the Fonz is not far behind. You just hate people under 18.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And I hope you know I'm just joking.

 

:lol: :lol:

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Not to hijack the thread, but I bought a 10/22 from Dicks a few months ago and part of the store policy is to escort

customers who buy guns out to there car after the purchase. I thought it was hysterical that they sent some 17 year old kid

who couldn't have weighed more than 140 pds with me to my truck for my protection. I have a CCW and am carrying my G27 at the time. :D

Sure glad they sent Richey Cunningham with me so I would be safe :smoke:

 

 

 

When I was 17 I weighed 155 and would have probably whooped your ass. Maybe not, but there would have been blood and we would both look ugly. Why don't you take your Rambo act and your 22 rifle somewhere else. Everyone here has way more class than you. I would love RC to escort me because I know the Fonz is not far behind. You just hate people under 18.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And I hope you know I'm just joking.

 

Hey, I was 17 once! And a bad ass. It's just when you reach a certain age things strike you as funny. No offense intended to the young bucks.

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I bought the pump today and just as was mentioned above, I had to fill out extraneous paperwork that shouldn't have been required because of my CCL. I was also escorted to the car by a very nice, large and burly salesman named Maurice. Maurice was gracious enough to carry my shotgun and a double bagged quantity of 200 rounds of various shotgun shells. Seriously, I haven't had that kind of service in a long time. It kind of made me feel special. I wonder if they'll do that when I go back to buy some fishing gear...

 

The Pardner Protector feels very solid, much moreso than a Mossberg, IMO. I can't wait to blow up some old washing machines with it.

 

By the way, the 10/22 is a great gun. I remember buying mine 22 years ago at WalMart for $135 and it has been failure free, except for the time I used a lame Ramline magazine with it (that sucker is jam city). But with the Ruger mags, never a failure. Best .22 made, hands down.

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They have a little squared area at the top rear of the receiver but are otherwise identical and interchangeable with an 870.

 

So all 870 aftermarket accessories will fit this Parder Protector?

 

If so, I might have to pick one up. $159 for what everyone is saying is a quality pump, sounds like a steal.

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Does anyone know what the stamped metal piece included in the PP box is for? There are no instructions concerning this part and I don't see the part on the exploded view blueprint. The part came enclosed in a plastic bag. If anyone knows what this is, please let me know.

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Does anyone know what the stamped metal piece included in the PP box is for? There are no instructions concerning this part and I don't see the part on the exploded view blueprint. The part came enclosed in a plastic bag. If anyone knows what this is, please let me know.

 

I'm not sure as I don't have one but could it be a trigger locking device?

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Does anyone know what the stamped metal piece included in the PP box is for? There are no instructions concerning this part and I don't see the part on the exploded view blueprint. The part came enclosed in a plastic bag. If anyone knows what this is, please let me know.

 

I'm not sure as I don't have one but could it be a trigger locking device?

Hrmmm, I don't think so. The locking device is a simple cable/padlock device that came in a separate plastic bag. This thing looks like some kind of internal piece, almost like a trigger assembly part. I figured the manual would instruct me on what to do with it, but there's no mention of it in the manual.

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Not to hijack the thread, but I bought a 10/22 from Dicks a few months ago and part of the store policy is to escort

customers who buy guns out to there car after the purchase. I thought it was hysterical that they sent some 17 year old kid

who couldn't have weighed more than 140 pds with me to my truck for my protection. I have a CCW and am carrying my G27 at the time. :D

Sure glad they sent Richey Cunningham with me so I would be safe :smoke:

 

It's not just for your protection. It's theoretically for the protection of the other customers, to prevent someone from purchasing a weapon in the store, loading it and robbing the joint. Yep, asinine reasoning, what's to stop someone from loading it in the car and walking right back in, and who would be stupid enough to legitimately purchase a weapon then immediately use it to commit a crime which would prevent them from legally purchasing weapons? But hey, that's how corporate America thinks. Poorly.

 

There's a Dick's less than a mile from my house. If they have one in stock, it's mine tomorrow.

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They have a little squared area at the top rear of the receiver but are otherwise identical and interchangeable with an 870.

 

So all 870 aftermarket accessories will fit this Parder Protector?

 

If so, I might have to pick one up. $159 for what everyone is saying is a quality pump, sounds like a steal.

 

 

 

It's my understanding that they are interchangeable. They are great guns, H&R makes quality stuff.

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I've got one and it's fantastic. I like it better than my dad's Express. Reciever is thicker (or stronger or stiffer or something, just seems tougher), is perfectly reliable with everything I've put through it, added a mag extension to it and it rocks the house.

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Actually its only imported by H&R its made by hawk industry in china, which is (IIRC) the same company that made the Norinco M-14 receivers.

 

I bought one of the 28 inch barrel ones a few years back for my dad. Fairly smooth and well built. He does comment that its heavy as hell by the end of the day (and I agree). I think I paid 165 for that one.

 

I have a Jing An pump gun that I got really dirt cheap back 8 years ago, similar build quality. Came with 5 chokes for 75.00. But its a M37 copy not an 870.

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