hobbyshooter 59 Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 I've having a little buyers remorse over the ace push button folder I put on Saiga 12 - 2. It's quite wobbly. It doesn't bother me at all when pulled up to my shoulder, but when handling the gun it makes it feel rickety. It seems the cam & channel could have been machined with a slight taper and a stronger spring to make it solid like the other folder. Has anybody else experienced a push button folder? Am I being nit-picky? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dnp 1 Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Glued a very thin fiber shim to mine so as to take up the slack when extended. Still a little loose in the folded position when locked there but that doesn't hurt anything. Shim is glued to the fixed side of the folder....is about3/4" in dia. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Delta 5.56 0 Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 I have heard of the push buttons being wobbly from other forums before. Seems that is just they way they are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dph arms 88 Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 I have heard of the push buttons being wobbly from other forums before. Seems that is just they way they are. May be just the way they are but we are working on a new design that should take out the wobble. Scott Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gunfixr 76 Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Every one I've seen is wobbly, although some more than others. When doing a conversion using a push button folder, I weld a small button at the top and bottom where the stock side of the folder unit hits it when closed. I then carefully file it down to where it will just allow the folder to close and lock easily. There is a small amount of wobble left, but much less than before. On an aluminum block, a screw could be tapped in and bottomed out, then filed in the same manner. It'll be interesting to see DPHs folder. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
775Patriot 0 Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 I've got one and it's wobbly too. I called and talked to Greg at CSS and he said that is the way they are and that there other cheaper folding mechs are alot tighter. I also had a little buyers remorse just cause that little piece is spendy and could of got the less expensive model that apparently locks up better in the folded position as well as extended. As far as the push button folding mech, in the extended position mine locks up snug because there is a little set screw that you can adjust to have stick out to make up for the slack. I would also be interested to see DPH's design. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
westonsecurity 6 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Every one I've seen is wobbly, although some more than others. When doing a conversion using a push button folder, I weld a small button at the top and bottom where the stock side of the folder unit hits it when closed. I then carefully file it down to where it will just allow the folder to close and lock easily. There is a small amount of wobble left, but much less than before. On an aluminum block, a screw could be tapped in and bottomed out, then filed in the same manner. It'll be interesting to see DPHs folder. Nate, Nice touch on your conversion. Can't too get mine back from you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BronCobraJet 80 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 So what is the best, tightest folding option available? Has anyone tried Magnolia State Armory Integrated Stock Adapter with the built in Galil style folder? There still isn't a picture of it on their website yet. I am curious as to what it looks like. I wasn't even aware folders were sloppy. This is the first I've heard of it. It would kind of tick a guy off to spend a good chunk of dough and have it feel all wallered out skanky like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hobbyshooter 59 Posted June 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 So what is the best, tightest folding option available? Has anyone tried Magnolia State Armory Integrated Stock Adapter with the built in Galil style folder? There still isn't a picture of it on their website yet. I am curious as to what it looks like. I wasn't even aware folders were sloppy. This is the first I've heard of it. It would kind of tick a guy off to spend a good chunk of dough and have it feel all wallered out skanky like. The magnolia folder isn't available yet. I don't think there are even any field trial units yet. The tightest folder is going to be this one: http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/se...sm-Saiga/Detail As you can see by the image there are tapered parts that mesh together pushed by the force of the spring. That taper takes up any wobble (the push button folder should have been designed similarly) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
775Patriot 0 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 So what is the best, tightest folding option available? Has anyone tried Magnolia State Armory Integrated Stock Adapter with the built in Galil style folder? There still isn't a picture of it on their website yet. I am curious as to what it looks like. I wasn't even aware folders were sloppy. This is the first I've heard of it. It would kind of tick a guy off to spend a good chunk of dough and have it feel all wallered out skanky like. HAHA! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Etek 32 Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 The Russian folder sold by Saiga-12 locks up tighter than a crab's asshole. But it takes 2 hands to open, isn't 922® compliant (If you're worried) but is adjustable for length. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmacken37 4 Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 I lubed my push button ACE folder mechanism and it now is all gritty. It is a step down from their 'regular' folder. Jake Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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