ChileRelleno 7,074 Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 (edited) Make no mistake, the ACLU is suing for the return of private property, not in any way in defense of the Second Amendment. The ACLU does NOT recognize Individual Rights under the Second Admendment, http://www.aclu.org/crimjustice/gen/35904res20020304.htm http://www.wdsu.com/news/19930035/detail.html <h1 class="Headline">ACLU Sues Cannizzaro, Riley Over Gun Confiscation</h1><h2 class="SubHead">Plaintiff Challenges District Attorney's Policy</h2>POSTED: 2:39 pm CDT July 2, 2009UPDATED: 3:40 pm CDT July 2, 2009 NEW ORLEANS -- A branch of the American Civil Liberties Union has filed suit against New Orleans' top law enforcement officials for refusing to return a handgun to its owner.Erroll Houston, Jr. is a painting contractor who says he carries a weapon for personal protection. He is licensed to do so, according to the suit. Police Superintendent Warren Riley (left) and District Attorney Leon Cannizzaro (right) appear at a 2009 City Council meeting.Police confiscated the gun when they arrested Houston last July. But the District Attorney's office never pursued charges and Houston never went to trial.He also never got the gun back."For the government to keep property that someone is legally entitled to own, there must be good cause, and the owner is entitled to due process," ACLU Executive Director Marjorie Esman said. "Mr. Houston has done nothing wrong. There are no criminal charges against him."His firearm, which he is and was entitled to carry, has been confiscated for no reason. It is past time for NOPD and the District Attorney to return it."Esman said Houston made repeated requests for the return of his property, but was told policy prohibits the return of weapons confiscated during an arrest.The City of New Orleans, Police Superintendent Warren Riley and District Attorney Leon Cannizzaro are named in the lawsuit, which was filed Thursday in federal court.WDSU has requested a response from both Cannizzaro and Riley but has not yet heard back from their offices. Edited July 10, 2009 by ChileRelleno Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elvis christ 451 Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 I thought the ACLU wouldn't touch gun cases? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Yes, they usually only defend just the civil liberties that they like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elvis christ 451 Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 That was my understanding. Well, maybe they're coming around. I'm sure you've seen this: http://www.aclu.org/pizza/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Interesting... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scarbrough68289 76 Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 (edited) from their home page... The ACLU is our nation's guardian of liberty, working daily in courts, legislatures and communities to defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties that the Constitution and laws of the United States guarantee everyone in this country. These rights include: •Your First Amendment rights - freedom of speech, association and assembly; freedom of the press, and freedom of religion. •Your right to equal protection under the law - protection against unlawful discrimination. •Your right to due process - fair treatment by the government whenever the loss of your liberty or property is at stake. •Your right to privacy - freedom from unwarranted government intrusion into your personal and private affairs. The second amendment is the only thing that makes any of our other rights possible. If we were disarmed we'd be just a bunch of weak children that had to do whatever Ma and Pa said.....or else! You think they'd want their gun rights back after their "assembly" were mowed down by "Peace Keepers". Or their newspaper were shut down for printing terrorist propaganda against our precious leaders. How about after their home is raided in the middle of the night by "Home Security" for viewing Banned websites or reading censored books online? Guns are just a tool. Their intended purpose is as a weapon so I understand why some pansy ass people get scared of them and think that it's actually the gun itself that is going to jump up and murder them if they even go near one. But the same dumbfucks will drive their spoiled brat kids to karate or judo class to learn Martial Arts. If thier same reasoning for why guns are bad applied to their kids half would be dead or crippled from the deadly weapons they possess. Playgrounds and Chucky Cheeses across this country would be piled waist deep with the bodies of these little Ninjas.......but under their "Ideal" government system thier kids would probably be considered an armed militia movement and would be round up and placed in internment camps. >>>>>Hope this is a sign of them realizing this! We need all the help we can get. Edited July 10, 2009 by obake Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SOPMOD 254 Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 The ACLU focuses on under represented cases within the context of the current SCOTUS interpretation of the constitution.If US vs Miller were overturned tomorrow they would become a defacto gun rights organization. Just because you don't like the cases they choose today doesn't mean you can paint them with such a broad brush because they do exactly what they say they do which is defend the civil liberties of EVERYBODY. I for one am a Civil Libertarian but I do not accept the incremental erosion of our rights like the improperly ratified 16th amendment or US vs Miller for which Miller lost by default rather than having his case heard in court. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gopher 7 Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 (edited) from their home page... The ACLU is our nation's guardian of liberty, working daily in courts, legislatures and communities to defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties that the Constitution and laws of the United States guarantee everyone in this country. These rights include: •Your First Amendment rights - freedom of speech, association and assembly; freedom of the press, and freedom of religion. •Your right to equal protection under the law - protection against unlawful discrimination. •Your right to due process - fair treatment by the government whenever the loss of your liberty or property is at stake. •Your right to privacy - freedom from unwarranted government intrusion into your personal and private affairs. The second amendment is the only thing that makes any of our other rights possible. If we were disarmed we'd be just a bunch of weak children that had to do whatever Ma and Pa said.....or else! You think they'd want their gun rights back after their "assembly" were mowed down by "Peace Keepers". Or their newspaper were shut down for printing terrorist propaganda against our precious leaders. How about after their home is raided in the middle of the night by "Home Security" for viewing Banned websites or reading censored books online? Guns are just a tool. Their intended purpose is as a weapon so I understand why some pansy ass people get scared of them and think that it's actually the gun itself that is going to jump up and murder them if they even go near one. But the same dumbfucks will drive their spoiled brat kids to karate or judo class to learn Martial Arts. If thier same reasoning for why guns are bad applied to their kids half would be dead or crippled from the deadly weapons they possess. Playgrounds and Chucky Cheeses across this country would be piled waist deep with the bodies of these little Ninjas.......but under their "Ideal" government system thier kids would probably be considered an armed militia movement and would be round up and placed in internment camps. >>>>>Hope this is a sign of them realizing this! We need all the help we can get. i agree.... if these politicians knew what a gun did... everyone would be arrested and the guns would be the onlything free. Edited July 10, 2009 by Gopher Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Shandlanos 1,470 Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 I would like to see the ACLU lose some of its reputation as a "liberal" pussy organization. Like any other organization, it is nothing more than a group of people, all of whom are individuals who should not be painted with such a broad brush. The top brass, who make decisions regarding the general mission of the group as a whole, may not be supportive of our right to bear arms. However, there are lots of local chapters of the ACLU in lots of different states, each of which has its own leader. These local leaders have a fair amount of power to pursue cases based on their own judgment. To all those who have stated and those who believe that our right to keep and bear arms is the only or the most important right, I respectfully disagree. The right to bear arms is a damned important right, just as our right to choose our own religion, our right to public assembly, and our right to speak freely are all damned important. The right to bear arms exists in part to provide a last-ditch measure to throw off oppression when those other vital rights are denied. Some chapters of the ACLU have done some pretty bizarre things. One example comes to mind that inspired in me a higher level of respect for the organization in general. A white power group (KKK or similar scum) was denied a march permit in a southern city in a manner contrary to that city's laws. The ACLU sued on behalf of the group and got them their march permit. The lawyer who handled the case was Jewish, and when asked about the case said that while (obviously) he disagreed with the group's message and beliefs, he felt it was vital to defend their rights. No doubt he personally despised the very people he felt so strongly he must defend; but, obviously, he felt freedom and equality outweighed his personal distaste. I want to see the ACLU reconcile itself with conservatives, because we can do so much for each other. I've never really understood the hatred so many conservatives have for the group. So they generally don't defend firearms cases. That sucks, get over it. There are people and organizations that energy and emotion could be spent better on. Those that are actively trying to take your rights should be seen as a much greater threat than those that are simply failing to defend one of them. Certainly they deserve some level of scorn for their hypocrisy, but not hatred. They're not all gun-hating idiots. Give them a chance; they may one day defend your ass when it's on the line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wakal 10 Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Funny you should mention "ass" and "ACLU" in the same post. Google "ACLU" and "North American Man/Boy Love Association" to see what they consider a "good" case. ACLU may have started off with the best of intentions, much like AARP and NAACP...but (like them) are now just leftist shills in it for their own gratification and ego-stroking. Alex Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stix213 3 Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 (edited) I'm sitting here waiting for gravity to reverse, the sky to turn green, time to flip into reverse, or some other impossibility that is still more probable than the ACLU defending gun rights... Can I at least assume that the individual the ACLU is representing is gay, bisexual, transgender, the member of a politically correct religion (IE non-Christian), or a minority that the evil white males of this world have been trying their best to victimize? It would certainly set my mind at ease that all matter in the universe isn't about to fly apart if that is the case. Edited July 11, 2009 by stix213 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uzitiger 193 Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Funny you should mention "ass" and "ACLU" in the same post. Google "ACLU" and "North American Man/Boy Love Association" to see what they consider a "good" case. ACLU may have started off with the best of intentions, much like AARP and NAACP...but (like them) are now just leftist shills in it for their own gratification and ego-stroking. Alex The ACLU are a bunch of leftist self serving scum was Wakal states. It's nice to see them take on the New Orleans Police whose officers were photographed looting with other looters. I heard someone on talk radio say that in Louisiana the only professional police officers are the state police. The sheriff deputies are on a much lower standard for a law enforcement officer and the requirement to be a local police officer is a travesty and the majority of them are not professional officers who get good training at police academies and their character leave a lot to be desired. In most states they would never get to work for law enforcement. I'm surprised that our benevolent dictator Obama did not hire them into the ATF or other federal law enforcement agency to reward them for this travesty of justice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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