BruisedShoulder 7 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 My Saiga has the standard Tapco stock with the metal plate. Ok, it was cool the first two times showing off the bruised horizontal lines on my shoulder but would like to shoot it without seeing this every so often. What padding are you using on the end of the stock? While searching through some threads I came across the following image an noticed the padding and am curious to know how this fairs along with what other options are available. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Death_Delirium 7 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Just my bruised flesh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
headshot 52 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 I have an Ace skeleton stock with the 1" pad on it. Works good. I never really minded the 12 gauge recoil. Its a nice sort of thud on your shoulder. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hobbyshooter 59 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 (edited) I removed the metal plate then modified the end of the tapco stock and installed a grind to fit limbsaver. Just the right length and I'm able to shoot hundreds of rounds without even feeling anything on my shoulder. Post 13 here: http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showto...mp;#entry256468 The gun: Edited August 13, 2009 by hobbyshooter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
banshee 69 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 What padding are you using on the end of the stock? none Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 This: Butt pad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twinhairdryers 2 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 (edited) This: Butt pad I've had 3 different stocks now on my Saiga and used the same grenade launcher pad like the one in your pic example on all 3. Notice it did not even fit well on this stock, but a couple feet of paracord with some epoxy fixed it tight. Best pad for pounding magnum slugs out of the S-12s all day. Lots of rubber and air cushion. Sticks tight in your shoulder also since it is wide and sticky (just like my girls). http://www.twinhairdryers.0catch.com/ I think I paid 25 bucks for mine, but this place has them for 15 or 16. http://www.fseusa.com/product_info.php?products_id=339 Edited August 13, 2009 by twinhairdryers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goldenman 1 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 (edited) My Saiga has the standard Tapco stock with the metal plate.Ok, it was cool the first two times showing off the bruised horizontal lines on my shoulder but would like to shoot it without seeing this every so often. What padding are you using on the end of the stock? While searching through some threads I came across the following image an noticed the padding and am curious to know how this fairs along with what other options are available. I use a 1 inch slip on pad, it was the most cushy of any I've seen. It is the Limbsaver!! This pad makes it sooooo comfortable to shoot my 12. As your forum name implies, I too was taking a beating. I have a ace stock so the slip on isn't the most secure on a skeletal stock, but my shoulder sings songs of praises and thankfulness. Edited August 13, 2009 by double Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GPalmer 1 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Just my bruised flesh. +1, never really bothered me with the Saiga. I have used the limb savers though and they do a great job of soaking up recoil. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BruisedShoulder 7 Posted August 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Thanks for all the feedback (and links with instructions) as I will be researching these this weekend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
corbin 621 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 (edited) All I can say is......I love my Limbsaver. Even with slugs, no bruising yet. **EDIT** I don't know if you've tried this, but applying isometric tension on the weapon is supposed to help, if you can get over the weird feel of it. Personally, I never developed a taste for it, but some folks swear by it. It works like this: You use the front and rear hands to either push towards each other or pull away from each other (while holding the weapon, obviously). I was told to push together, but I've seen others say you're supposed to pull apart instead. Regardless of which way you do it, you also press your shoulder firmly into the buttpad. Edited August 14, 2009 by Corbin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 I use an Ace Ultra-lite Modular stock with the 1" Ace butt-pad. It probably doesn't work quite as well as the Limbsaver.. but it works pretty damn well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tover26 18 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 First 2 times I shot, I got bruised up really bad. 3rd time, just a bit. Now I don't get any at all... just some redness. Maybe you'll get used to it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheDarkHorse 216 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Technique. It can't be taught because it's different for everyone. You have to develop your own. Think absorbtion.... Left hand 33% Right hand 33% Shoulder 33% Balls 1% If you are absorbing 100% of the recoil through your shoulder, your technique is all wrong. Put the gorilla grip on the forend and pistol grip then man-up on that thing before you pull the trigger. When I was a kid, my Dad had a sawed-off 12ga. that had to be held firmly to fire. That's how I learned. In other words, stop limp-wristing that thing and fire it like a man! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deadeye008 2 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Low recoil loads... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Azrial 1,091 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 The Ace 1" recoil pad on my folder does a great job! On the other hand I am used to the Remington 870 factory metal folder! That is not mine, mine is a Stainless Marine Magnum, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goldenman 1 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 (edited) Technique. It can't be taught because it's different for everyone. You have to develop your own. Think absorbtion.... Left hand 33% Right hand 33% Shoulder 33% Balls 1% If you are absorbing 100% of the recoil through your shoulder, your technique is all wrong. Put the gorilla grip on the forend and pistol grip then man-up on that thing before you pull the trigger. When I was a kid, my Dad had a sawed-off 12ga. that had to be held firmly to fire. That's how I learned. In other words, stop limp-wristing that thing and fire it like a man Edited August 13, 2009 by double Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goldenman 1 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Technique. It can't be taught because it's different for everyone. You have to develop your own. Think absorbtion.... Left hand 33% Right hand 33% Shoulder 33% Balls 1% If you are absorbing 100% of the recoil through your shoulder, your technique is all wrong. Put the gorilla grip on the forend and pistol grip then man-up on that thing before you pull the trigger. When I was a kid, my Dad had a sawed-off 12ga. that had to be held firmly to fire. That's how I learned. In other words, stop limp-wristing that thing and fire it like a man! Thanks for the tip,sound advice Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Double (or quadruple) some of these up on the butt-plate, to help the felt recoil: They even come in handy bulk packs! I keeeeeeeed, I keeeeeeeeed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jamesavery22 54 Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Technique. *snip* Thanks for the tip,sound advice While I agree good form is something we should all train to have but expecting to always have that perfect form is purely for range shooting. Getting off the X rapidly and immediately trying to bring your sights of any shoulder fire weapon on target rarely puts it in the "perfect form" position. Even doing standing-still ambidextrous drills will continuously put the weapon in a shitty position if you do it long enough and push yourself hard enough. Recoil of the S12 is mild at worst. Try a pump with that shorty PG choate stock thats square and pointy at the end Get something smaller or get stronger! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lusaka 0 Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 I am using the recoil pad that you have shown in the photo of your first post. Works for me for the recoil but primarily because it lengthens the stock and makes the gun fit me better which is an aid to accuracy right there. Mine came with my gun when I bought from Rusmilitary but I ended up using the screws out of the buttplate and screwing it on directly to the stock/buttplate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailbomb 10,221 Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Man... 22_shooter beat me to it. I don't have anything for a pad, and the only time i really got any bruising was during the warthog test. around 100 3" goose loads and 40 3" turky loads will do that. Its all part of the expirience! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TO THE FLOOR IN A 63 121 Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 The first time I shot my s12 I bruised pretty bad...yellow and black w/tenderness for a few days The second time there was just some redness so I am sure I will get use to it. That said I have ordered one of the above recoil pads because I feel that this gun is about an inch short and this seems to be an easy way to increase the length...Thanks for the ideas guys!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
us_dragunov 11 Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Wow, that is a thick buttpad above. I have never had a shotgun bruise my shoulder, but people are different. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
us_dragunov 11 Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 That is the Izhmash made buttpad that they use on some of their Taktica and military/police models including the S12S-01 ver. 030 and the KS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zenmetsu 17 Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 That is the Izhmash made buttpad that they use on some of their Taktica and military/police models including the S12S-01 ver. 030 and the KS. Oooh.. I want Where to find these? Anyways, 12GA kick is peanuts. You want a kick, you can fire my unmodified 8mm Yugo Mauser with some of that really hot 1950 Turkish ammo. Steel butt plate is all you get. I fire that thing all the time and I am used to it now. Makes the Saiga12 feel like a .22 rifle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wally 2 Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 to all of you that say a 12ga doesnt kick you havent shot any 3 inch buckshot have you,man up and stop shooting the bulk pack birdshot LOL! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guer0 3 Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Is this even avail anywhere? I would like 1 of those for my factory 12-C because of the folding stock not really anything else you can put on it and not have to remove when folding the stock. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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