james peek 14 Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 my dad told me tonight that some special force groups are using the ak platform in curtain situation. any body herd of this. he must of been watching the history or discovery channel. got to love those two. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zenmetsu 17 Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 I hope we switch to AK platform. Most people I talk to say that they prefer the AK over the AR, so it would probably make a lot of people happy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 I hope we switch to AK platform. Most people I talk to say that they prefer the AK over the AR, so it would probably make a lot of people happy. I resemble that statement...! I was a BIGTIME AR guy when I got out.... 1500 bucks on a high Speed Armalite in the mid 90's... I'll take my Romy G ANYTIME over it.... unless I want to bust paper at 800yards.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james peek 14 Posted September 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 the story goes special ops guys use them so there tracer rounds are the same color at night as the enemy's. the enemy thinks were one of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 SF used them on occasion in Viet Nam. A friend of mine was in Fifth Group there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zenmetsu 17 Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 Tracers work both ways... Oh shit!! It's one of THEM... (artillery called in) WHOOOPS... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loki0629 55 Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 Special Forces have been doing that for some time now. If they are being used as a force multiplier, they instruct and train the locals on the weapons that they will be using. The cheapest and most prolific assault rifle around is the AK. If their mission calls for covert stuff, the last thing they want to do is advertise their presence by leaving all sorts of 5.56 NATO brass lying around. Also if they use calibers easily found in their area of operation then in theory ammo resupply is easier than bringing it up from the rear. So it's really a matter of practicality and not necessarily because they think it's a superior platform. I met one guy in Iraq who carried around a suppressed PPsh-41. I have no freaking idea where he got his ammo from but that thing was badass. On full auto all you heard was the bolt cycling and the brass falling. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zenmetsu 17 Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 Special Forces have been doing that for some time now. If they are being used as a force multiplier, they instruct and train the locals on the weapons that they will be using. The cheapest and most prolific assault rifle around is the AK. If their mission calls for covert stuff, the last thing they want to do is advertise their presence by leaving all sorts of 5.56 NATO brass lying around. Also if they use calibers easily found in their area of operation then in theory ammo resupply is easier than bringing it up from the rear. So it's really a matter of practicality and not necessarily because they think it's a superior platform. I met one guy in Iraq who carried around a suppressed PPsh-41. I have no freaking idea where he got his ammo from but that thing was badass. On full auto all you heard was the bolt cycling and the brass falling. Nice... I would love to have seen that. PPsh-41s are sweet lookin. I have always wanted one myself. Now if they would have made them in semi-auto, it would have been possible for me to get one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DragunovGuy16 10 Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 Special Forces have been doing that for some time now. If they are being used as a force multiplier, they instruct and train the locals on the weapons that they will be using. The cheapest and most prolific assault rifle around is the AK. If their mission calls for covert stuff, the last thing they want to do is advertise their presence by leaving all sorts of 5.56 NATO brass lying around. Also if they use calibers easily found in their area of operation then in theory ammo resupply is easier than bringing it up from the rear. So it's really a matter of practicality and not necessarily because they think it's a superior platform. I met one guy in Iraq who carried around a suppressed PPsh-41. I have no freaking idea where he got his ammo from but that thing was badass. On full auto all you heard was the bolt cycling and the brass falling. Nice... I would love to have seen that. PPsh-41s are sweet lookin. I have always wanted one myself. Now if they would have made them in semi-auto, it would have been possible for me to get one They Do Make A Semi-Only PpSh 41 AND PpS 43's... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zenmetsu 17 Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 Special Forces have been doing that for some time now. If they are being used as a force multiplier, they instruct and train the locals on the weapons that they will be using. The cheapest and most prolific assault rifle around is the AK. If their mission calls for covert stuff, the last thing they want to do is advertise their presence by leaving all sorts of 5.56 NATO brass lying around. Also if they use calibers easily found in their area of operation then in theory ammo resupply is easier than bringing it up from the rear. So it's really a matter of practicality and not necessarily because they think it's a superior platform. I met one guy in Iraq who carried around a suppressed PPsh-41. I have no freaking idea where he got his ammo from but that thing was badass. On full auto all you heard was the bolt cycling and the brass falling. Nice... I would love to have seen that. PPsh-41s are sweet lookin. I have always wanted one myself. Now if they would have made them in semi-auto, it would have been possible for me to get one They Do Make A Semi-Only PpSh 41 AND PpS 43's... Oh? I guess that they would be horribly bastardized though... barrel would probably have to be longer to not be an SBR... and then there is the whole open-bolt production ban. :/ Still, might be a fun gun to have around. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
usmc_mwroseberry 0 Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 I was def. not special forces but I picked one up in Fallujah every chance I got. Let me get away with not filing an incident report more times than I can count.... Although my 1stSgt got wind of it and it's the reason I didn't get my combat action ribbon....... Oh well my life is more important to me than a stinking ribbon. Good Luck, Merritt SGT USMC vet Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DragunovGuy16 10 Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Special Forces have been doing that for some time now. If they are being used as a force multiplier, they instruct and train the locals on the weapons that they will be using. The cheapest and most prolific assault rifle around is the AK. If their mission calls for covert stuff, the last thing they want to do is advertise their presence by leaving all sorts of 5.56 NATO brass lying around. Also if they use calibers easily found in their area of operation then in theory ammo resupply is easier than bringing it up from the rear. So it's really a matter of practicality and not necessarily because they think it's a superior platform. I met one guy in Iraq who carried around a suppressed PPsh-41. I have no freaking idea where he got his ammo from but that thing was badass. On full auto all you heard was the bolt cycling and the brass falling. Nice... I would love to have seen that. PPsh-41s are sweet lookin. I have always wanted one myself. Now if they would have made them in semi-auto, it would have been possible for me to get one They Do Make A Semi-Only PpSh 41 AND PpS 43's... Oh? I guess that they would be horribly bastardized though... barrel would probably have to be longer to not be an SBR... and then there is the whole open-bolt production ban. :/ Still, might be a fun gun to have around. The PPsh's Were NEVER SBR So It Is Not Bastardized..They Are Very Neat Guns.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ljv308 3 Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 The U.S. and British Special Forces both have used AK 47 in Iraq for obvious reasons. Here is a video link that describes why at the 3:00-3:20 marker. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james peek 14 Posted October 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 The U.S. and British Special Forces both have used AK 47 in Iraq for obvious reasons. Here is a video link that describes why at the 3:00-3:20 marker. man awesome video. i sure do love my s7.62 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Krom 36 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 When I was in Iraq, a Maj I worked with used an ak with a folding stock (I was not into ak's then, so I'm not sure what kind it was) looked kinda like a krink, but I know for sure it was 7.62x39. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paprotective 362 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 I work with a 2 tour Vietnam veteran who said he hated hearing the things, but would pick up one now and again and use it for HIS good.... Much more reliable he said 'then the sh*t we were issued' back then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james peek 14 Posted October 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 I work with a 2 tour Vietnam veteran who said he hated hearing the things, but would pick up one now and again and use it for HIS good.... Much more reliable he said 'then the sh*t we were issued' back then. scary the greatest country in the world can't build the best war rifle in the world!!!! in terms of reliability. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ljv308 3 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 My FFL Dealer told me that his nephew was in Iraq in 2007 and his nephew told him that a few of the guys found some SKS rifles and were using them also.His nephew told him it was a reliability issue because of the sand storms during certain times of the year. They also had 7.62x39 ammo available from the locals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arik 565 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 (edited) Nice... I would love to have seen that. PPsh-41s are sweet lookin. I have always wanted one myself. Now if they would have made them in semi-auto, it would have been possible for me to get one <----- US soldier with a PPSH and a mounted red dot and a front grip. Edited October 2, 2009 by Arik Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bearhead 2 Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 relaibility speaks volumes!!! also not leaving your 5.56 calling card is important for special ops... get in, get done, don't get noticed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bearhead 2 Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 I also saw in the Houston Chronicle troops from Texas training with the AK... NOT the M4... I was so proud... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SJgunguy 5 Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 relaibility speaks volumes!!! also not leaving your 5.56 calling card is important for special ops... get in, get done, don't get noticed Yep, I worked with a guy who told me the dumbest thing he ever was join S.F. He was in Vietnam and he told me about some missions where they took their tags and gave them enemy uniforms and weapons and that was that. He also said they were the reason Tigers in south east asia were going extinct. "We killed those fuckers, if we didn't they would kill us". Even to this day he swears by the AK. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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