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#1 kwesi

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Posted 18 October 2009 - 12:40 PM

I decided to put a list together of all the ammo that is the correct length/crimp needed for the MD20. Please Do Not rely on this table just yet until others can confirm what I've put together. Please also post any brands/rounds not listed and I'll update the table as we go. If such a list alredy exists then the mods can delete but please send me the link.

This table is specifically related to the length/crimp needed and NOT whether a rounds cycles in your S12. I'm going to assume the addition of the Gunfixr Plug will eliminate that. I had to attach this as a PDF file because I wasn't able to keep the columns/formatting the same when I tried to copy and paste it.

Let's all share and make this a good resource for us all!

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Posted 18 October 2009 - 05:45 PM

Thanks. Great info.
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Posted 18 October 2009 - 06:31 PM

Awesome, I can't wait to get a drum.
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Posted 18 October 2009 - 07:47 PM

(Walmart) Federal Game Loads - 6 shot 7 1/2 shot and 8 Shot work fine in the MD20 Muzzle Velocity on all three is 1290 FPS

Edit: the FPS on the Federal bulk pack sold in wallmart is 1200 fps.

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Posted 18 October 2009 - 09:22 PM

(Walmart) Federal Game Loads - 6 shot 7 1/2 shot and 8 Shot work fine in the MD20 Muzzle Velocity on all three is 1290 FPS

Edit: the FPS on the Federal bulk pack sold in wallmart is 1200 fps.


Thanks! I updated the table and added a "member verified" column BUT I'm not able to replace the original PDF file at the top post- mods can you help me?

Hope I hear from more of you to make this a good resource for all of us! New revised PDF file attached.

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Posted 18 October 2009 - 11:34 PM

Nice job kwesi!

This should get stickied in Mike's sub-forum.

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Posted 19 October 2009 - 12:00 PM

Nice job kwesi!

This should get stickied in Mike's sub-forum.


I sent an email to Mike with a copy of the table in hopes he can give us his comments so I can make it more complete. Where are all the drum owners out there - I need your help to complete the table.

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Posted 19 October 2009 - 08:57 PM

The federal tactical LE buck shot works as well. There are also others. I will try and get a list together of some of the ones you dont have listed.
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Posted 19 October 2009 - 10:20 PM

The federal tactical LE buck shot works as well. There are also others. I will try and get a list together of some of the ones you dont have listed.


Good news as I ordered a case of the Federal LE 00 full power loads, 1325 fps. I understand they are like 2.429999' long but was hoping they were close enough to Mike's 2.40".

Looking forward to your adding to the list.

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 11:21 AM

Good thread thanks!!

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Posted 21 October 2009 - 08:28 PM

Baschieri & Pellagri (B&P) Big Game Palla Tipo 4 1-1/8 oz rifled slugs -- Works, well.
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Baschieri & Pellagri (B&P) Big Game Palletoni Tipo 4 1-1/6 oz 00 buck (sorta) -- Works, but is snug front to back, and can be slow to feed, resulting in failures.
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 09:22 PM

Baschieri & Pellagri (B&P) Big Game Palla Tipo 4 1-1/8 oz rifled slugs -- Works, well.
and
Baschieri & Pellagri (B&P) Big Game Palletoni Tipo 4 1-1/6 oz 00 buck (sorta) -- Works, but is snug front to back, and can be slow to feed, resulting in failures.


Got em...thanks! Anybody else have a comment for the table?

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Posted 21 October 2009 - 09:47 PM

Federal Premium LE Truball Low Recoil Rifled Slug HP 12ga 2 3/4" 1oz Muz Vel= 1300fps

Federal Premium LE 00 Buckshot with Flitecontrol Wad 12ga 2 3/4" 9 pellets Muz Vel= 1145fps

Winchester Ranger Low Recoil Rifled Slugs HP 12ga 2 3/4" 1oz Muz Vel= unknown

Precision Ammunition Copper-Matrix NTF Frangible Slugs 12ga 2 3/4" Muz Vel= unknown

All these work fine.

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Posted 22 October 2009 - 08:32 AM

Federal Premium LE Truball Low Recoil Rifled Slug HP 12ga 2 3/4" 1oz Muz Vel= 1300fps

Federal Premium LE 00 Buckshot with Flitecontrol Wad 12ga 2 3/4" 9 pellets Muz Vel= 1145fps

Winchester Ranger Low Recoil Rifled Slugs HP 12ga 2 3/4" 1oz Muz Vel= unknown

Precision Ammunition Copper-Matrix NTF Frangible Slugs 12ga 2 3/4" Muz Vel= unknown

All these work fine.


Thanks! New updated MD20 table file attached with new products and confirmation on others. Keep them coming!

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Posted 22 October 2009 - 08:14 PM

Thanks for the info.I am glad to hear Fiocchi works.I have quite a few cases of Federal LE132-00(flight control stuff)for my S17 but I am saving it for a rainy day.However,it is nice to know that Fiocchi works since it is cheap and I don't feel bad shooting it.

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Posted 23 October 2009 - 03:25 AM

Works with md20:
Sellier & Bellot:
SB SPECIAL SLUG SPORT
SB PRACTICAL SPORT SLUG
SB PRACTICAL BUCK SHOT
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Posted 23 October 2009 - 08:05 AM

I recently came across a bulk pack of Remington #8 birdshot that wouldn't run right. Was getting random FTF's from my MD-20 drum, so I pulled out the calipers and measured shell OAL. About one quarter of the box was over 2.4". I lined up a bunch of shells and you could clearly see that some of them were longer than the others.

So watch out, especially with cheap bulk pack type ammo. If the manufacturer doesn't watch shell OAL you may occasionally run into individual shells that won't feed right.

If you're competing or hunting or SHTF-ing and want to make it count, break out the calipers and sort your shells. Under 2.4" should work just fine.
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Posted 23 October 2009 - 08:42 AM

Thanks! Keep the info coming!

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Posted 24 October 2009 - 11:27 AM

Great job, thanks for the info!

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 05:33 PM

New Updated MD20 table attached. We need to hear confirmation on the existing ammo + add some new ones!

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Posted 24 November 2009 - 09:02 PM

New Updated MD20 table attached. We need to hear confirmation on the existing ammo + add some new ones!


I've updated the table with a few additions. I'm going to include the date of the update in the file name starting with this one. Anyone have more updates to add?

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Posted 25 November 2009 - 12:29 AM

Bump for the great info!
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Posted 26 November 2009 - 12:12 AM

Winchester 2.75 1600fps rifled slugs work in MD20, factory 5 and AGP 10

Brenneke 1 oz rifled slug KO, 2.75 works in the above mags

winchester 3 inch #4 steel shot super X works in all but MD 20

Federal 3 in OO buck shot mag works in all but MD 20

Remington and Federal 7 1/2 shot bulk packs 2.75 works in all mags above

Remington # 8 shot 2.75 worked in all (I think this was also bulk pack)

Green hull, olin, winchester military grade OO buck 2.75, works in all mags

not sure if you have all or any of those, but they are all member verified
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Posted 26 November 2009 - 12:15 PM

Winchester 2.75 1600fps rifled slugs work in MD20, factory 5 and AGP 10

Brenneke 1 oz rifled slug KO, 2.75 works in the above mags

winchester 3 inch #4 steel shot super X works in all but MD 20

Federal 3 in OO buck shot mag works in all but MD 20

Remington and Federal 7 1/2 shot bulk packs 2.75 works in all mags above

Remington # 8 shot 2.75 worked in all (I think this was also bulk pack)

Green hull, olin, winchester military grade OO buck 2.75, works in all mags

not sure if you have all or any of those, but they are all member verified


Thanks! I updated the table for the ones we did not already have - see table two posts above. I'll wait to see if anyone confirms or adds to the current table then I add another update.

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Posted 01 December 2009 - 10:56 AM

kwesi, thanks for your time & effort on this! :super:

Just a suggestion.... you may want to put the most recent chart in the first post.
As this thread grows to multiple pages over time, it will be easier to get the updated chart at the top of the first page.

That and I hope one of the mods will move this thread to a sticky in Mike's section.


EDIT:

These should be marked as confirmed for not fitting:

Wolf 00 (very close, but no cigar)
NobleSport LE 12 pellet 00

Edited by Spartacus, 01 December 2009 - 11:04 AM.

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Posted 13 December 2009 - 07:36 PM

kwesi, thanks for your time & effort on this! :super:

Just a suggestion.... you may want to put the most recent chart in the first post.
As this thread grows to multiple pages over time, it will be easier to get the updated chart at the top of the first page.

That and I hope one of the mods will move this thread to a sticky in Mike's section.


EDIT:

These should be marked as confirmed for not fitting:

Wolf 00 (very close, but no cigar)
NobleSport LE 12 pellet 00


Thanks Spartacus: I don't seem to have the ability to edit the first post so I started assigning the date of the update in the file name. Here is the up to date MD 20 ammo table which include your two confirmations as well as a few other's.

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 12:17 PM

That's the good info i was looking for great list.
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Posted 16 December 2009 - 08:06 PM

That's the good info i was looking for great list.


Post #26 above has the most recent update to the table. Can the mods make some note in post #1 explaining that the date in the file name will denote the most recent update?

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Posted 19 December 2009 - 04:42 PM

This totally needs to be stickied... I gotta search for it every time I order ammo.

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Posted 05 January 2010 - 07:53 PM

A few more "will" and "won't" for the MD20.(All were hand tested...not loaded and then fired)

WILL:
Federal 2 3/4 1oz rifled slug, Federal Premium 2 3/4 1oz Truball Rifled Slug HP, Wolf 2 3/4 1oz rifled slug, Remington Slugger 2 3/4 1oz rifled slug, Winchester Military 2 3/4 00 BS (couldn't remember if these were already added so I just went ahead and did it)

WON'T: Sellier and Bellot 2 3/4 12 pellet BS, Rio 2 3/4 9 pellet 00 BS.

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