sailor 6 Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 I've put a few hundred rounds thru my Saiga conversion, but no problems of any kind. A couple of days ago at the range, sighting in a new 4x32 scope, I had a slam fire/double fire, quite unexpectedly. I suspect it was a matter of not having a firm control of the gun, as it was in a steading frame, bungee corded down, in an attempt to get the scope zeroed in. Fresh magazine, rack the bolt handle, line up with the 200 yard target - trying to not jiggle the rifle too much, fire one - and two rounds go off! I had heard of that happening, but did not expect it. Sound like a loosely held, too much freedom for recoil problem? I sure don't want to have anyone accusing me of having a full auto (I know, two rounds hardly equals full auto)! Does anyone find a need for a firing pin spring, or is such a thing even possible? sailor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 I've put a few hundred rounds thru my Saiga conversion, but no problems of any kind. A couple of days ago at the range, sighting in a new 4x32 scope, I had a slam fire/double fire, quite unexpectedly. I suspect it was a matter of not having a firm control of the gun, as it was in a steading frame, bungee corded down, in an attempt to get the scope zeroed in. Fresh magazine, rack the bolt handle, line up with the 200 yard target - trying to not jiggle the rifle too much, fire one - and two rounds go off! I had heard of that happening, but did not expect it. Sound like a loosely held, too much freedom for recoil problem? I sure don't want to have anyone accusing me of having a full auto (I know, two rounds hardly equals full auto)! Does anyone find a need for a firing pin spring, or is such a thing even possible? sailor If you didn't have a good hold on it, you most likely bump-fired it. No firing pin spring will do anything for that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scrambledkj 0 Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 I had a russian SKS that would slam fire when the bolt got dirty. The firing pin would get stuck forward, and it would dump any rounds left in it. the second time it happened, the range master came down to see what was going on. Upon inspection, the bolt was dirty and a little hoppes #9 freed it up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deussne 38 Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Yep, I have the same problem. I am trying to figure out if my pin gets stuck in forward position or if I manage to bump fire it.. Just take the bolt apart, clean it with some brake cleaner and do not oil it. If you can manage to take a qtip or a toothpick with some cotton and clean all the inside of the firing pin chamber that would help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 This is a known problem with the SKS along with the trigger creep issue, both have modifications available to eliminate. I wouldn't let it continue to save a few bucks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sailor 6 Posted November 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Thanks for the comments - I suspect Nalioth has the answer (as usual). I'll watch for a repeat. Rhodes 1968 - what type of modifications are you referring too? I probably don't need to do anything at all, but this site is full of useful information, and always helpful. Incidentally, the firing pin is free floating and clean - no problem with being stuck forward. The Saiga is so easy to clean thoroughly, that there is no reason not to keep it clean. Also, it wasn't firing upon the initial closing of the bolt, but fired a SECOND round, unexpectedly. sailor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigsal 757 Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Sounds like you guys have faulty rifles. Please send them to me for proper disposal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SJgunguy 5 Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 I know that sometimes if you baby the trigger especially on the reset the disconnector won't catch the hammer and it can double. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VladTepes 160 Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 i have been holding the rifle too lightly on more than one occasion and have had "bump fire" issues without even trying... the Tapco FCG is REALLY light and smooth.. i think that may have contributed to my personal issue.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulry 50 Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Send it to bigsal before big brother ATF reads this! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Unintentional bump-fires. The Tapco AK fcg is especially prone to this, (as opposed to 2-stage triggers). If I were you... I might take it as a sign... go (intentionally) bump-fire that rifle "proper", at least once!! It's legal, (as of now anyway). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 i have been holding the rifle too lightly on more than one occasion and have had "bump fire" issues without even trying... the Tapco FCG is REALLY light and smooth.. i think that may have contributed to my personal issue.. No, I think your "right-wing extremist" instincts may have taken over in those instances, DamagedWorld. You bump-fired because you're a dangerous person who has handled and has experience with personally-owned firearms. As you should know, if you are to the right of King Barry and Queen Barney, (er, I mean Princess Pelosi), you are a threat to The Nation.. the fucked-up "nation" that those Marxists want to turn our Republic into, anyway. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VladTepes 160 Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 i have been holding the rifle too lightly on more than one occasion and have had "bump fire" issues without even trying... the Tapco FCG is REALLY light and smooth.. i think that may have contributed to my personal issue.. No, I think your "right-wing extremist" instincts may have taken over in those instances, DamagedWorld. You bump-fired because you're a dangerous person who has handled and has experience with personally-owned firearms. As you should know, if you are to the right of King Barry and Queen Barney, (er, I mean Princess Pelosi), you are a threat to The Nation.. the fucked-up "nation" that those Marxists want to turn our Republic into, anyway. my threat level rises as my rights are stripped away.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james peek 14 Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 i need an extra bolt so i can tig weld the firing pin forward. pull back the charging handle and take a dump. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 i need an extra bolt so i can tig weld the firing pin forward. pull back the charging handle and take a dump. Doing that, if the bolt does not lock well enough before your cartridge ignites, things could get real ugly fast. Real full auto AKs have a delay system that is suppose to avoid an out of battery ignition. A standard factory semiauto does not have the delay. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james peek 14 Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 i need an extra bolt so i can tig weld the firing pin forward. pull back the charging handle and take a dump. Doing that, if the bolt does not lock well enough before your cartridge ignites, things could get real ugly fast. Real full auto AKs have a delay system that is suppose to avoid an out of battery ignition. A standard factory semiauto does not have the delay. yeah i was kidding. but it sounded fun. i'm surprised there haven't been any real issues in these guys dangerous situations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sailor 6 Posted November 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Most recent range time showed no "bump fire", but I pointedly did not handle the rifle loosely. More play and experiment time after the snow clears, and my fingers thaw out. sailor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigsal 757 Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 Send it to bigsal before big brother ATF reads this! We have trained technicians standing by.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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