Alexc.s. 25 Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 (edited) Ratchet Charging System for the Kalashnikov rifle? This looks nice, and a bit like an mp5. I may have to try one out after the holiday mail rush. Any one used this on a saiga? >>REMOVED LINK<< Edited December 17, 2009 by MCASSgt New River Non-Business Member Link Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Nobody's actually seen one yet, that I know of. It's another fool|money separator, and for now - vaporware. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFox 69 Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Watch your fingers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mav 459 Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 If your standard run of the mill mouse trap is catching plenty of mice... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alexc.s. 25 Posted December 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Nobody's actually seen one yet, that I know of. It's another fool|money separator, and for now - vaporware Don't call it a fool|money separator unless you try it. There are a lot of items I thought were useless untell I used them. If I buy one I'll post a review, that I am sure of. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFox 69 Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Hint: Cobras Custom is working on a non reciprocating MP5 style charging handle for bullpup AK/Saigas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alexc.s. 25 Posted December 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 That sounds better. How much and whats the eta? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFox 69 Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 That sounds better. How much and whats the eta? I did one in Iraq with nothing more than a hacksaw some tubing and a hammer. I'm going to try to have a working prototype by this weekend. I need to make a trip to the hardware store with an S12 gas tube and bolt carrier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alexc.s. 25 Posted December 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 (edited) If you can make them for about the same price I'd be willing to take a chance and buy one. Will yours need a new GP? Got any pics? Edited December 16, 2009 by Datastick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFox 69 Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 If you can make them for about the same price I'd be willing to take a chance and buy one. Will your's need a new GP? Got any pics? You'll have to send us your bolt carrier assembly and possibly your gas tube. You'll also need to be able to install the new modified gas tube on your S12. Let me work out a final design but I don't expect it to be any more than the "ratchet". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alexc.s. 25 Posted December 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 My gun is a saiga 223, but that shouldn't matter to much. Sending the parts away is a bit harder then just buying the other kit. It also looks like it's not to hard to make sure your thumb is out of the way. I don't hold my rifle with my thumb over the area anyway. It sounds like a good idea, keep working on it and best of luck to you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 My gun is a saiga 223, but that shouldn't matter to much. Sending the parts away is a bit harder then just buying the other kit. It also looks like it's not to hard to make sure your thumb is out of the way. I don't hold my rifle with my thumb over the area anyway. It sounds like a good idea, keep working on it and best of luck to you. Reading is fundamental. KrisFox is talking about a non-reciprocating charging handle arrangement. What KrisFox is discussing is nothing at all like the crapshoot in the OP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alexc.s. 25 Posted December 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 (edited) Sorry if I'm a bit of a noob, what do you mean by "the crapshoot in the OP"? Edited December 16, 2009 by Datastick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
r40734 19 Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 (edited) "OP" is usually the abbreviation that stands for "Original Poster" or the person starting the thread. That wold be you Datastick. In this case it looks to mean "original post"... referring to the content in your first message. Edited December 16, 2009 by r40734 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 (edited) "OP" is usually the abbreviation that stands for "Original Poster" or the person starting the thread. That wold be you Datastick. In this case it looks to mean "original post"... referring to the content in your first message. Not entirely (you make it sound like there's something up his hind end OP means "Original post". "Crapshoot" is that ponderous junior-high-school-metal-shop thing that was brought to our attention in the original post. Edited December 16, 2009 by nalioth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frank Rizzo 8 Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 AK's look stupido without an upper handguard. Plus, what the hell is the point of that thing anyway? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alexc.s. 25 Posted December 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 I think the point is to look kind of cool. Thats about it though, maybe if I have lots of extra cash but not as long as I have some thing that works well as it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vbrtrmn 167 Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 I think the point is to look kind of cool. Thats about it though, maybe if I have lots of extra cash but not as long as I have some thing that works well as it is. I'd talk to Cobra about it, he does excellent work and offers a fair price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulyski 2,227 Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 (edited) AK's look stupido without an upper handguard. Plus, what the hell is the point of that thing anyway? To make money for the manufacturer... By the name, "Dublin" I thought it was made for I.R.A.land or the UK at first. A system like this might be cool if it were marketed in northern Ireland or England where semi-autos are banned (except for .22s) & they need to chamber each & every single round by hand & they have no gas ports. But for an actual semi auto AK type... No thanks. Edited December 17, 2009 by Paulyski Quote Link to post Share on other sites
seanie 6 Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 AK's look stupido without an upper handguard. Plus, what the hell is the point of that thing anyway? I think the point of it is to do what every other left side charging handle does: Let you work the action of your rifle without taking your hand off of the pistol grip. With this setup though, I'd rather reach under or over the rifle like everyone else does. There's something about this that just doesn't seem right. Maybe there'll be a gen 2 or 3 that will work out pretty well, but this seems kind of basic, and somewhat dangerous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TWGLADF 0 Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 i did something similar to this design that involved cutting a slot in the gas tube. i'll tell you what it is good for. it is good for spraying gas in your face with every shot. i recently ordered me a replacement gas tube and said the hell with this. if it aint broke then dont try and fix it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mrwilson 5 Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 There is a video on you tube of this rifle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SirROFL 13 Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 I like the idea of a left-side charge, but not that far forward. It's more a of a reach for me to reach forward than to go under the rifle. That said, Mr. Dublin is an 18-year-old engineering student, give him time to perfect his work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3ac6ucb 24 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Looks like a great way to lose your upper handguard and gain a broken thumb. I'll pass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elvis christ 451 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 I would never run that thing. Seems like an accident waiting to happen, aside from the fact that I don't really see the need for a left hand charging handle. There's absolutely no reason that you can't reach over the top of the receiver and rack the slide, if you practice you can do it just as fast as you could with that contraption, and you wouldn't have a reciprocating chop saw next to your front hand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dublinak 0 Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Greetings, Our company is currently developing a non-reciprocating version which will be the second generation. this was included in the patent. on this one, the handle is turned up far enough to stay out of the way of your hands unless of course you hold your AK by the top hand guard. also, i have not had complaints of gas being sprayed in the face of the operator and i have also tested this numerous times. Very Respectfully, Ethan Dublin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobsolla 7 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 why don`t you guy`s go with the ak lightning bolt from colorado shooting sports;it`s well made and works fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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