wbordelo 0 Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 My dealer didn't get his number to CDNN soon enough so I did not get an S12. So now I am looking for the S20. I am not totally disapointed thogh, as I have been advised on this site and in other publications that the 20 will probably be better for me as I have little experiance and want it for home defence only. I checked with Militery Gun Supply today and they have the Sagia 20 ga. for $269 . I thought this was a little to much, but considering that it will probably be the next to disapear from the Saiga line it may be a bargin. Can anyone tell me if their is anyone out their selling cheaper than $269. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty 0 Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 $269 is about what I ended up paying for my s20 off of gunbroker. You might check them out, though the supply of S20s seems to have dried up faster than the S12s. Good luck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wbordelo 0 Posted March 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Just a question. I noticed under my user name on left side of screen the following; Warning 0% and a few little blue sq. boxes. I don't see that on the post of others. Im I doing somthing wrong? I noticed that this was on all three of my post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ivrfrkbrd 0 Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Ditto here. Thanks for asking. Found one .410, not my chioce but will try to snatch it up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty 0 Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 (edited) You've only done something wrong when that "Warning %" goes above 0. Good luck on the S20, they are great guns (even if they are a bit picky about ammo) Edit: Went back and looked at my reciepts, I paid $260 even for my s20 after all was said and done. I've also spent almost that much in parts to convert it, even after I originally told myself I wasn't going to do that. These firearms are a damn addiction I tell ya Edited March 25, 2005 by Rusty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RDSWriter 5 Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 Mark Kubes firearms in Pinellas Park (Tampa area) had one or two left when I bought mine a month ago. They were around 200 -220 with TWO mags. I posted previously about him approximately a month ago on Saiga 12 forum... don't know which area... Just do a search on my postings and you should be able to find it. OR, do a yellow pages search on the internet. OR, do an FFL search in the Tampa area. If he has one left, he'll hook you up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StarLynx 0 Posted March 27, 2005 Report Share Posted March 27, 2005 Thanks,RD...I found Mark Kubes web site..he even had a S20 listed for $202..I promptly shot em the Info on my CC to hurry up & buy it...But he wrote me back stating that it was the OLDER model...& not available anymore.. he's got a 410 for the same price...If that one on GB goes south on the price..I'll try for that one from Kubes Do the 20s' shoot as reliably as the S12s?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty 0 Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 Once broken in? Hell yeah. The only "reliability issues" I've had with my 20 has been some Fail To Ejects because of super cheap ammo during the break in period, and some Fail To Loads because I was using 2 3/4" rounds in a 3" mag. Use some heavy load rounds for the first case or two and grab some extra 2 3/4" mags. The 20 can be picky at first, but once you break it in, you're good to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mbsk01 0 Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 Once broken in? Hell yeah. The only "reliability issues" I've had with my 20 has been some Fail To Ejects because of super cheap ammo during the break in period, and some Fail To Loads because I was using 2 3/4" rounds in a 3" mag. Use some heavy load rounds for the first case or two and grab some extra 2 3/4" mags. The 20 can be picky at first, but once you break it in, you're good to go. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> http://www.ak47.net/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=93&t=255642 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StarLynx 0 Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 (edited) How did I miss that one??!!..I scan that board constantly!!....Good deal on mags??... He hasn't answered my email yet..but the pic of that S20 shows it has no Internal BHO..Dang it!! Edited March 28, 2005 by StarLynx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty 0 Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 Swift levers are $35 + shipping. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 for range BHO... stick a DEAD SHELL In the receiver sticking out sideways...no question the bolt is open then.... LOL Thats how I transport too... with either a PEN... or something similar in the receiver, sticking out the top of the receiver and the bottom of the magwell.. JUST IN CASE. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StarLynx 0 Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 yeah..but do the S20s wo/ Int BHO still have the 1&2 gas port adjustment??? or rather the older models??..Like the Older mod S410 was with-out??I bought earlier?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 MY 20's.... both of them... have NO BHO... and BOTH HAVE the two position gas port settings... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty 0 Posted March 28, 2005 Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 My 20 has no internal BHO, and I've got the gas adjustments. Hell I use 'em quite often. And the swift levers work great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StarLynx 0 Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 Are the "Swift levers " come'n from Dave M @ Elite Firearms In Hurst,Tx??? can't ya do the same thing w/a dremel??..Or don't those from elite have little knurled or serrations so ya finger can move em easier?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty 0 Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 Swift levers come from BlackJackBuffers. If you just want the notch, you could easily do it with a dremel. I like the fact that it has the notch, a lower tang to operate the safety with your index finger, and it can be removed without disassembling the trigger group. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StarLynx 0 Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 (edited) Thanks...you got a web addy for them??..Don't they sell the better buffers {bumpers},too?? I forgot about the little lever they put on it...will they all fit in the S20s,too?? Don't ya just remove the Dust cover & Rec spring assembly..swing the old one all the way up Then pull it out to the rt??..then reverse to re-install the new one?? Edit..I found they're Webpage...Which one of those is the best one for the S12..I wann'a order one of those safety levers for my 20..might as well get the buffers ,too... Edited March 30, 2005 by StarLynx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty 0 Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 (edited) The stock safety lever will not just rotate up and out. Atleast on my 20, I had to take the trigger assembly apart to get the stock safety lever out. As far as a web address for blackjack... www.blackjackbuffers.com Edit: Just specify when ordering that you are going to be putting the SWIFT lever in a Saiga shotgun, BlackJack will hook you up. It should run $35 for the SWIFT lever with the BHO notch. Edited March 30, 2005 by Rusty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StarLynx 0 Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 Do they have the best buffers?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty 0 Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 Dunno. I purchased a Buffertech before I discovered BlackJack. The thinner buffers look like they'd fix a couple of short cycles I've had in the past, but now that my firearm is getting to be well broken in, I'm not sure they'd do anything for me that the Buffertech buffer isn't doing. Eh... I might pick one up in the future just to compare it, but at this point, I don't know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StarLynx 0 Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Does anybody have any experience with this style of Saiga Buffer?? Thanks for any info.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty 0 Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Looks like a buffertech. They're a bit thick for a virgin gun, but on something that is well broken in (like mine almost is), they work fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StarLynx 0 Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 I got 5 of em coming....I'll have a few extra probably if anybody wants ta try one... As long as they do some good with the heavy magnum stuff..I'm ok w/em...that is unless they cause malfs... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty 0 Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Should work fine with heavy rounds. Mine does. Only time it ever caused a short cycle was when I was still breaking it in with Winchester AAHS 1300FPS stuff. Works pretty good now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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